Me either was reading A4e got away with something similar in 2001 though..

http://wearespartacus.org.uk/wp-cont...Assessment.pdf

This is a MASSIVE document, 71 pages and Im only on page 24 now, but if anyone has a load of spare time and wants to know exactly how ATOS, the dwp and the government are treating disabled people its well worth a read. Some of the stories are absolutely sickening. These are real peoples experiences of ATOS medicals. I dont actually understand how what they do is legal.

I know not many people will read the whole thing...but pick a random page and read one or two of the stories. The governments mantra that 'genuinely ill people have nothing to fear' will be disproven instantly.

Edit. It seems the real accounts end on page 26.

ATOS back in the guardian today, the government are being sued by a disabled guy :)

ATOS are failing and whatever agenda they have been 'guided' to as to these re-assessments,it is wrong.

For me, these ATOS re-assessments should be halted and thought about again.
It is the Lib Dems I am amazed at, after talking to several Lib Dem councillors,they too are sick of the wrongs coming out as to ATOS.

As with the 'bedroom tax' however, I am surprised people are not raising this issue with their MPs, or are they and it's just being brushed under the carpet.
From the anger at ATOS,I have found talking to Lib Dem councillors I find it difficult to accept that their MPs are not getting this raised and regularly with them.

I and one of my Friends family, had a big battle with the DWP after an ATOS assessment of his health issues. We won but it was time consuming and hard work not to mention the massive inconveneince in between the decision and appeal result.

The whole format of the ATOS assessments are wrong in my opinion and they are also some the very worst of people to deal with too.

Give them time. The letters have only just gone out round here informing people about it...I'm sure a lot won't even know about it until said letter lands on their doorstep...

It's great news about the case vicky, if this guy wins then it will surely signal the end of ATOS? :)
The bedroom tax will be a real headache for them, like you say the full extent of who,why and where has not been realised yet. When local councillors and media start putting pressure on MP's in the worst affected areas hopefully that may have an impact.

Oh definitely good news about the case, and I really wish him the best of luck. I doubt even him winning it would signal the end of ATOS though, I would imagine there would need to be a fair few cases until the government are willing to give up this company who are doing EXACTLY what they want ;)

I read my MILs letter about bedroom tax. What some people seem not to be realising (yet) is that its going to hit low paid workers as well as the unemployed...theres a page in the leaflet about this. I imagine a lot of people on minimum wage who have to rely on benefits just to survive (which I disagree with too...no-one in fulltime employment should need to claim benefit to get by, but many do) are going to be well pissed off when they realise that this doesnt just affect the 'scroungers' ;)

I have made already some comments on this issue here in the past and I am now really furious with ATOS,the DWP and this vile man Duncan Smith too.

It is best for me not to comment now too much as I was too personally involved but over the last 2 years I have been involved with the family of someone who has in my view been near harrassed by ATOS and the DWP.

We were due to have to face the 3rd assessment via ATOS and the DWP in the next few weeks again after twice winning appeals.
It is not possible now as we lost the person who was severely disabled on Tuesday.

I am really too angry to comment or to list in full my fury and total hate for these heartless assessments being done by ATOS for the DWP in lines with the direction of the most rotten man in politics in my opinion, Ian Duncan Smith.
These ATOS re-assessments should be stopped immediately and Duncan Smith should be sacked,he shouldn't be having any say in decent peoples lives disabled or fully healthy in my view.
.... and there I will leave it.

Well i'm sure i saw a c4 programme where it said ATOS get £300 for every person they get off of benefits !!

this is not making enough headline news. the news is always poisoned by infinite pro feminist agendas...the disabled barely get a mention these days, its disgusting

It wont make the news, because its proof that the government are ****ing the disabled. Too many like the believe the official line of 'the genuine disabled have nothing to fear' and bury their heads in the sand to what is happening to the 'genuine disabled'..preferring instead to believe that everyone who is kicked off disability benefits was a fraud. Its not the case at all.

http://tompride.wordpress.com/2013/0...-please-share/

I think I am just going to start a copy and paste as to ''I agree with Vicky''.
You are 100% Spot on again.

Few are taking the time to really find out just what this rotten Govt are really doing to the genuine sick and disabled in the name of reform.
Actually it is more like an attempt at cleansing than reform.

I read that labour introduced a new law which meant if the disabled adapted a car to drive, they were then not allowed to transfer the adaptations to any other car, even if its virtually identical. that law meant each time a disabled person buys a car it costs them around £2000 on top to adapt it.

the disabled are always ripped off, ive spent a fortune on making some of my taxis and buses wheelchair access....the expense is a national disgrace....its cost more than some vehicles are worth to adapt them properly

Hmm I'm not sure on that. My friends father gets a car as part of his DLA (he choses to have the car instead of extra money) and the cars he got a choice of cars that were already adapted.

Edit. I think I read your post wrong :p No idea about this law. I dont see how that would work..it would be discrimination, surely?

I know what Ive said is 100% accurate ITS A FACT. Im tlaking about if a person wants to buy a normal car and get it adapted himself. he has to do this every time, rather than move controls.

also the wheelchair webbing alone in our taxis runs to over £1000 , the electric ramps cost between £2500 and £4000 installed

This is all I can find on adaptions

http://webarchive.nationalarchives.g...ce/DG_10028001

Thats from 2008 so labour would still have been in then. Seems they helped disabled people adapt their vehicles via the motibility scheme?


Anyway. ATOS were given their contract by labour to begin with. So they are kinda to blame for whats going on now. However, not fully. The tests were never as draconian as they are now. The coalition tightened the guidelines SO much when they realised people were 'sicker than expected' that now you pretty much have to be a corpse to pass the medicals.


The disabled get the ****ty end of the stick whoever is in power tbh. But it seems worse right now than ever before.

Definitely far worse now Vicky, Duncan Smith has taken these assessments now to a whole new and unacceptable cruel level.

yea my uncle drives a mobility car but says the choice is too limited so he buys his own choice of car and adapts it with a semi automatic (tiptronic) system and hand controls....that costs him about £2000 but if he wants to sell his peugeot and buy any other vehicle he has to buy all new controls again? even if its the exact same peugeot, labour made it illegal to move the semi automatic and hand controls across... crazy

both governments have failed the disabled....look at disabled access....my uncle cannot get in most buildings still, that includes church, what a disgrace.

http://welfarenewsservice.com/atos-i.../#.UWhWzErpcZT

I am so glad this guy won his case. I hope there are many more inspired to challenge this disgusting company.

However I fear IDS will just rush through some more emergency legislation to stop this (people winning cases) happening again. Just like he did with the worfare case :bored:

meanwhile not one banker has gone to jail