Of course not, but she entitled to believe in anything she chooses, doesnt make anyone right or wrong

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You are quite right. She does think she is superior. She said after the Friday eviction, I am never going to put myself in this situation again. She also thought she was going to be Miss popular and better Denise Welch. Just because Loose Women has won several awards does not mean it was down to Coleen. I prefer the other panellists.
Her sister was nasty on BBBOTS so perhaps it is a family trait.
Coleen thinks she has to knock Julie to win but I dont think either will win. Probs Martin this year.

Why, does she say?

It doesn't surprise me she holds such an opinion.I have always found her comments on Loose Women to be very opinionated with little regard for others feelings.
When she is in a minority on an issue too, she just sets her face with the corners of her mouth at 20 past 8 and looks like thunder as she smoulders because she isn't agreed with.

I was never a fan of hers due to her constant bitterness about Shane Richie (which she mentioned on practically every single episode of 'Loose Women') her homophobic views & her reputation of being a bit of a bitch...

In the house she has been a miserable, bitter old hag... She has a huge chip on her shoulder about being fat (she lost weight, put it on again, lost some & now is big again) She went in with pre-conceived views on Julie, as said by her poisonous sister on BOTS, who said she had a "run in" with her in the past...Which is funny as The Nolan's all have a reputation of being bitch divas who think they are the bees knees. She is also pi**ed off at the fact that she thought she would be the 'mother hen' of the house who everyone would love, but that role has gone to her nemesis Julie...

Quite frankly I can't stand her...

Apparently the topic came up on an episode on Loose Women and she said she didn't agree with it, I can't find a video unfortunately to get a proper view, but still.

The showmancers are pissing me off more than her now.

This says it all tbh :hugesmile:

So it wasn't a defense because she didn't start shouting and roaring?

Anyone with a little common sense figured out after the first nominations night that Jasmine was about as stable as a bag full of cats. The sooner Coleen heard what was said she stood up and walked straight to the bedroom. By the time she got there she had modified her tone, a considered move given how Jasmine over reacts to everything.

Its the sort of thing that a mother does when dealing with another persons bratty child.

From those couple of instances its fair to say that Coleen seems to be the only HM that tackles problems head on, rationally. Rather than keeping the head down and saving face for the camera.

Thats hardly a fair comment is it?

You've read something, somewhere, at somestage?

No link, to video, no context, just a d*mning sweeping statement.

For our own reasons, Black Dagger like myself does not care for Coleen in the CBB house, and maybe outside the house, but I don't think the gays adopting comment was meant to be taken literally though, probably more of a tongue in cheek comment to justify a dislike of Coleen in that house, no more than that.

If the comment does turns out to be true by Coleen, I wouldn't mind knowing her reasoning behind the comment though.

That would be completely your opinion and based on no evidence what so ever.

In essence you have no clue as to her opinions, or motives, you've just made something up to make her sound bad.

Really? So the woman that has played both sides of every argument and spent a good deal of time b*tching behind the backs of some of her "loved ones", is a better fit?

Meanwhile the only one that Coleen seems to have a problem with is Julie, which steams from Julie's dislike of her.

Hardly d*mning evidence against Coleen, is it?

Again...completely your opinion and in no way based on facts! :D

Why not give out about Julian who spent days going around complaining about how awful it was to be nominated?

For every bad reaction by person #A in the house, there is always a similar reaction by #B to compare it too.

Dezzy uses the word 'probably', straight off, not stating as fact, and of course they are Dezzy's opinions, aren't the posts we make on such forums as this always 'our' opinions, of which may I say we are entitled to.

"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." - John Adams.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions. Thats normal. However sweeping statements such as the one above deserve to be challenged. I like facts, I like evidence, our inclinations and passions change with each passing year...

Why are you quoting my siggy? :conf:

Let Dezzy speak themselves.

This is a forum, one point of view has been given, I'm challenging it. Thats how this works. :xyxwave:

Don't tell me what to do, if I wish to point out that another member was not stating something as fact of which you indicated they were, I will do so.

Because I found it quite apt.

A member made a statement about the opinions of a HM. I stated that evidence should be given, considering the nature of the comment, before everyone judges Coleen based on that members statement alone.

Your sig is the every nature of my argument. We need facts on what Coleen did, or didn't, say, before we can judge her for it! ;)

I'm not telling you what to do! Not my intention at all. Just some friendly banter.
If you took offense, I apologise.

This is a forum, we all have opinions. Disagreeing and challenging is all part of the fun of it.

The way we judge all the housemates you mean even though we only have limited and edited pieces of the show shown. The whole point of BB is that we 'do' have to make our judgements of their characters on the limited bits we are shown, so in this instance that blows your theory out of the water, as we can only go on that, or how do you or others decide on a favouite and least favourite. If I were to look at the fave and least fave thread and see your least fave in that would I then be right to ask why you chose that housemate as your least favourite and to justify that then with facts?

I haven't taken offence at all, I make my points on here, and hopefully quite reasonably.

I've never been fond of Coleen.. she was always moaning and whining on Loose Women and shes doing the same in the house..

And Coleen will probably still be moany and whiney when she is out that house, just as Natalie Cassidy carried on to be.

That would be my take on this too. This is just a bit of fun.

Completely true. We watch the HL's and pick our favourites. Thats how BB works, its all about our opinions.

However my question to Black Dagger, and your original reply to me:

was over a statement that Black Dagger had made about something that Coleen had said outside the house and that he/she had read. On Coleens opinions on Gay adoption rights. I simply objected to there being no backup to quite a d*mning statement.

Our opinions are multifaceted. In terms of the BB house, we make up our minds based on what we see and what we've read.

For example, a lot of people like Julie simply because she was on CS. And alot of people will dislike Danica because of what she does for a living. These things have nothing to do with the house, or what they do in it, but they are part of what gives us our opinions.

Making a statement that Coleen is against Gay adoption, without providing some sort of evidence, is inflammatory. Hence why I got involved.

Black Dagger was 100% right though, Coleen Nolan clearly said on Loose Women in 2007, when they were discussing gay adoption that she thought, gay people should not adopt children, adding that, there was only so much she wanted to accept.Look under Coleen Nolan,controversies and it's easily found.

It's her opinions both inside and outside the house that make people who do, dislike her, even more of the housemates voted that she was a gossip in the house, she just cannot keep her nose out of things.

Right on the nail, Gill.

I don't have any issue with Coleen, she's not even one of my 'disliked' I was expecting to really do a chuff and hate on her every-move but instead I've just been like meh. =)

The "gay adoption" thing with Coleen was during an episode of Loose Women in 2007.


"There is only so much I want to accept,’ says Coleen when talking with Jane McDonald about gay adoption and Civil Partnerships. She felt that she had been a very good girl in accepting Civil Partnerships but that gay adoption was a step too far.

Her main reason (apart from being Catholic) seems to be that children would be embarrassed to introduce two mummies to her friends"


There are Google-able forum and blog posts around the internet from that date discussing the episode.

I like her, she's decent

Oh wow, you've basically wrote an Essay on how my opinion isn't fact...BUT AN OPINION! What a revelation! You've blown my mind.

At the end of the day I don't care about Morals in BB, it's pointless. Julian and Julie are quite simply more entertaining then Coleen and that's all that matters 'In my opinion'.

I never thought I'd have to make it clear that I'm only putting forth my opinion and not facts. I thought people were a whole lot less dim then that.

I googled it, and it's on her Wikipedia page also, Link here

It's her opinion I know, but what a closed mind she has. And after making that statement, she really needs to elaborate on it more. I hope someone in the BB house tackles her on the subject.

There are a lot of things that she does that seem insecure to me. Insecure people lash out, get defensive, and hurt other people over a misunderstanding. She also talks a ****ing lot and then assumes she knows what's going on when she doesn't really listen enough to make any judgements. That might be a source of her insecurity. She's wrong so often about people and incorrectly guesses that it's the crazy world working against her instead of the fact she doesn't pay attention.

I do see that she has good points that the others in the house appreciate but those things aren't anything that I would personally need in a friend/acquaintance/housemate.

And aren't chat forums all about people challenging each others opinions?

In my opinion Julie isn't entertaining, she's playing both sides of the field and bitching while she's at it.

And its perfectly normal for two people with opposing opinions to challenge one another. Without resorting to name calling...in my opinion :D

This is all rather annoying!

I an find videos of LW from the 8th of Jan 2008 and the 12th Feb 2008, but nothing for the 30th Jan. And all the articles are dead links.

Can't say I'm hugely impressed on the face of the statement. But I'd like to know more...

I went off her due to her comments regarding her son on loose women...disgusting.
She is lucky her son ever spoke to her again following that haha.

What did she say about her son? :conf:

I think it's in the Wikipedia link I put up on the previous page. I never read through all it said as I was just scanning through for the gays adopting comment.

I don't particularly care enough about your opinion to challenge it to be honest. You've done all the challenging and now you're going on the defensive accusing me of name calling just because I laughed at your essay. Engaging in a discussion with you would be a waste of my time, I like challenging opponents and you've already shown yourself not to be one.

In 2005, on Loose Women she claimed that if her 16 year old son passed his exams then she would pay for him to go on a sex trip to Amsterdam and that she had given her fiancé Ray Fensome permission to have a one-night stand during the proposed trip