Heartbreaking story. RIP to that poor woman and I cannot imagine what trauma she must have gone through after being gang raped:(.

I hope the vile culprits recieve a long prison sentence.

If we are comparing barbaric deeds, Does anyone recall the case about the girl who was short 10p for her fare home on the night bus who having been turned away by the driver was then raped as she walked home?

That is also awful,did the girl die?I havent heard of this.

kaz yes she did

Here's a link Kaz, and no she wasn't killed thankfully.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ny-policy.html

Watch the News
its the main Story
Raped by 6 men then a Metal bar rammed up her
then chucked off the bus naked.
She died in hospital.


That is Nothing like the UK.



India is a Barbaric Nation
Utter Fact

yeah it sounds like that

I feel terrible arguing with you on this point as it was a horrific case but it is not alone....there was a story here a couple of years ago where a girl was gang raped in her own home whilst her boyfriend was tortured in the next room...that was in Clapham....these cases happen everywhere in the world which is very sad, not just in India and countries like that.

As they have made arrests in this case I hope justice is served quickly....

Then we'll have to agree to disagree. It seems as thought this case could finally be the straw that breaks the camels back. I don't think India is anymore of a barbaric country than most, but different countries have to reach their own enlightenment, and that change has to come from within.

We have to allow countries to get there own their own, and it seems as though recently, people are starting to speak out. You know me, and my views on everyone in society having a say, and being a voice, but the conditions that lead to men to commit crimes like this needs to be addressed, and the ancient caste system consigned to the history books.

The fact we put these people behind bars, doesn't separate us from India in my book. Humans are humans. If you are going to gang rape someone, and then further attack them, a 20 year prison sentence isn't going to dissuade them from doing it.

I think the main difference between the way rape is dealt with in this country and the way it is dealt with in India is the place of women in society here against the place of women in society there. Especially women from the poorest sections of society, or lower castes.

Well yes, change has to come from within and it seems for many it has and yet there are those who cling to the old ways...
Look at Britain 150ish years ago and the laissez-faire attitudes of the upper echelons of society, how caring were they of the slum dwellers who lived in squalor?
If India want an ordered society they HAVE to address societal issues that are hindering their progress.
Yes, there are always going to be those who have the urges to commit crimes against women, however if there are for these women laws and the support of law enforcement then it can only help to change perceptions of those who would commit these acts?

I think the diff between the two countries is highlighted by the attitudes of the populations of these countries. In Britain this crime is universally condemned by everybody from the man on the street to the queen herself. All depts within the British establishment would be actively seeking to find the perpetrators of this disgusting act and they would all be given very long life terms.

However in India we read the crime has not been properly investigated and that the local police force are dragging their feet , almost unconcerned. We also read that there is in place a strange caste system that condones certain actions of higher caste people carried out on lower caste people. We find in general attitudes to women by large numbers of Indian males is highly misogynistic.

These are the diffs between the two nations and clearly India needs to step forward a few hundred years and wake up to the fact that these views are not acceptable in a modern society.

I'm sorry to hear that Anniek, this country is a disgrace though and especially after the evidence you've just showed us that your friend was raped.

phrases like Barbaric Nation is what was used to justify going to other countricountries and doing bad things to the proplr there (including rape). If you use words like that, things will never change

Six men arrested in ANOTHER Indian 'bus rape'
 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21003279

Hanging's too good for them - bring back impalement ..... :mad:

..I read this story this morning...horrific..

..well, they are talking about the death sentence for the other ones and it could be the same with these...that's their decision...I don't wish to know or take any pleasure out of how they do it though..whatever they have done, I find the torture or killing of another human being barbaric...

Interesting idea, however for any society to evolve it takes time. It wasnt so long ago that laws were introduced in this country to ensure women's rights, equal rights given to people with disabilities, people from different ethnic origins, etc.

It will take time, however the publicity and the outrage created by these incidents will put pressure to change laws and thinking.