Right and right.

I do disagree with the warning, she didn't deserve it.

Although, Big Brother is damned if it does and damned if it doesn't. People would have complained if she didn't get a warning.

It makes me laugh really that people are so ruddy quick to complain to ofcom, it's sad.

It hasn't worked because it was never said, it's a hypothetical.
There was no dialogue between the two, the conversation was between Jemima and Micheal regarding physical attraction and was in no way a racial slur.
Gina manipulated the initial conversation which changed the focus.

Oh so you did understand but preferred to dismiss my conjecture that' s perfectly valid within the context? :shrug: not nice :nono:
I disagree with your interpretation that Jemima's comments were directed at
Michael. Disingenuous wouldn't even begin to describe it. But I see where you're going with it. :suspect:
Jemima's comments following the incident support the facts. She was talking to Gina. However if as you insist she wasn't it makes her comments even more snide! :nono:

wow

No need to resort to condescension.
My whole point was I don't believe your context is or could be valid, Jemima was having a conversation with Micheal and Gina interjected.
After being falsely accused Jemima was on the defensive and rather flustered therefore her wording was misconstrued in my opinion, you may disagree but that is how I viewed the incident.

The old sea hag Jemima made an assumption about Gina, based on Gina's skin colour. It was ignorant, it was foolish but I just can't see it as racism.

I live in an East Asian country, and people make assumptions about me based on my skin colour all the time. They assume that I can't use chopsticks, they assume that I can't eat spicy food and they assume that I can't speak their language. As it happens, I can do all of those things and I take delight in showing them. Yet I never feel that I'm a victim of racism. If they were hunting me down, spitting on me, attacking me and denying me basic services then I would cry racism. But simple, albeit ignorant, assumptions are not racism in my book.

Actually they are.
But you have the right to interpret their behaviour in any way you like.
However if you were a child or adovacating for one receiving this behaviour your delight at integration might be bitter sweet.

Interesting theory. So what exactly should be done about people making such assumptions? If it is racism then obviously it is bad and it must be changed, perhaps even severely punished. How can we deal with, and ultimately end, such behaviour?

Oh but didn't you know - it's ONLY racist when a white person does it against an Asian/black person/Jew/Aboriginal/Eskimo/Whatever
.

Didn't you hear they passed it into law - only white people can be racist. Everybody else is INCAPABLE of being racist.

You can't disagree with the law, you know, otherwise you're politically incorrect and maybe even a r****t yourself!


And we wouldn't want to be THAT, would we?!?



*Goes off to watch some classic Benny Hill as Benny squints his eyes and berates the interviewer, calling him a "sirry iriot" and I laugh my feckin arse off!!!*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy88Sxxce_4

Condescension? Who me? :shrug: I humbly appreciate the opportunity to debate. With anyone. :hugesmile:
Gina interjected and Jemima responded with racist comments. I don't remember Gina reaching into Jemima's mouth to elicit these comments. So I continue to firmly disagree in blaming the victim.
At the risk of boring everyone else but with ver kind regards,I'll respectfully discontinue addressing reason to you on this thread.

I had no feelings either way for either of them from the off, so I don't know what you're implying with your silly emoticon and your "feigning" implication, so spit it out if you've got something to say. For the record, I didn't like Jemima from the off, and I still don't.

All the rest of your post is pure conjecture. You can say the same old thing in as many different ways as you like, the fact is that the majority of people on this forum - and we have a few races and colours and backgrounds on here - think that what Gina did was cynical and wrong. You turning the whole thing around to a case of semantics isn't going to make anyone change their mind about what they saw. Yes, she could have phrased it differently. Shoulda, woulda, coulda... get over it.

Urgh can people just get over it :bored:

Discussion forum. For discussion. You're not compelled to join in.

I'm talking about the people complaining to ofcom.

:conf:

I'm wondering whether Ofcom ever gets a complaint from a non-lunatic. :joker:

Apologies armand, I misunderstood.

Agreed.

Personally I find left-wing loonies just as bad as extreme right-wing nutjobs.

It's the same kind of insanity, just at the opposite end of the spectrum.

Extreme left, extreme right. Very little difference when examined closely.

:hug:

Because you had sided with a majority it does not follow that you are right. Regardless of the racial mixture of that majority. The demographic which you don't actually know.
If you don't know what I'm implying with the "silly" emoticon you can focus harder.
I do not spit things out I say them politely. You do not think or speak for everyone on this board and I remain entitled to speak my mind. Even though you've tried to silence me before.
You may continue to speculate as to how my argument affects the minds of others but in reality you don't know what's in the mind of every poster or reader of this board. So you get over it! Stop trying to control :nono:

I have no need to focus on on emoticons because I mostly converse with people who can express themselves beautifully without them. You were trying to imply something... you still haven't got around to it, so I'll let it go.

How have I tried to silence you? You're on a Big Brother forum on the Internet. Get some perspective.

Actually, I do know what's in the minds of a lot of the posters on this board, because they've said so in their posts. I'm not guessing. I don't have to.

I wasn't asking you to get over it, I was suggesting Gina get over it. You obviously will never get over it.

I could never imagine ringing OfCom and complaining... I'd feel slightly stupid :S

I just imagine all OfCom fangals to be like that happybbfan on Digital Spy.

I would not call Ofcom but i do think BB was out of order giving her a warning, she did nothing wrong.

What is the point in ofcom anyway

Yes, focus is required here as you still can't fathom its meaning. But the you're letting that one go. Thanks.
Yes it goes blurry if you stare too long. I was terrified you would be able to decipher the symbol and be outraged. :laugh: There I go again communicating with primitive symbols rather than the written word. Too complex for you though.
I was suggesting that you don't know whose mind my post would change. But it would seem you do. Good trick that and also miraculous. Hold on another symbol coming. Concentrate :idc:
My perspective remains reasonable yours irritable, controlling and over bearing .... honey I may never get over racism, but I'm so over you. :xyxwave:

I have no freakin' clue what you're rambling on about.

!

:joker:

Poor channel 5 just can't win can they? :joker:

Nope.

Just telling her to be careful would have sufficed

dammed if they do dammed if they don't

Quite funny - how the shoe's on the other foot now :laugh:

In 2007 they were flooded with complaints urging Big Brother to deal with the issue of Jade being a racist - and now in 2013, they're getting told to make Big Brother apologize :laugh:

It'd be quite brilliant though if BB had to call Jemima into the Diary Room and said sorry, and perhaps rewarded her with a little fruit basket and some massage oils.

Would be the first time Big Brother has ever admitted to being wrong.

As much as I think it was stupid for bb to give her a warning, "big brothers word is final" even thought bb has broken/changed allot of its own rules I would like some to remain.

they'd be more complaints if she hadn't have gotten a warning anyway