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Ellen 25-07-2013 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 6210706)
Yes, but the HM's may not know the full extent of her flirting with Daley. For example, Dan wasn't around a lot of the time that she was doing it, and the others individually weren't always there either. When the other HM's did see it, they wouldn't know what was actually being said between the 2 of them.
We know, because the highlights concentrated on it, and Gina and Dexter know as they watched from the safe house.
I think Dan is just trying to work out why his friend is hated so much, and isn't a big leap for him to think that D&G saw things he and the other HM's didn't and he could well think that they are targeting Hazel for that (which is partly true!)

Then it shouldnt be hard for him to work out that if D &G saw things he & the other HM's didnt then public will have seen what D&G did.

Kizzy 25-07-2013 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 6210716)
It's what people seem to believe! The same people who brand any young girl in a short skirt a "slut" and think it was her own fault if some pervert decides to have a grope.

Even more mind-bogglingly - 99% of these people are other women :/. Women are misogynists. Who knew.

Sanctimonious ugly fat women :joker:

Lex 25-07-2013 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Suze (Post 6210464)
I have no time for Dan, what a pompous idiot he is.


And don't forget....SMUG! :dance:

Vanessa 25-07-2013 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Lex (Post 6210727)
And don't forget....SMUG! :dance:

He's digging his own grave. Keep going, Dan. :joker:

Braden 25-07-2013 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben (Post 6210543)
I disagree. I, and many other Gina fans do not hate Hazel because Gina hates her, we hate her for the Daley showmance and other reasons.

That wasn't aimed at anybody on the forum.

I'm a Gina fan and I don't dislike Hazel because Gina does. I'm just saying, more of the younger audiences will be impressionable towards the fact that Gina doesn't like Hazel. They will carry this through until she's evicted, even though in recent days she's actually been okay and hasn't done anything to warrant dislike imo.

CaudleHalbard 25-07-2013 05:04 PM

Dan thinks his snuggle bunny Hazel is 100% certain to be booted on Friday and he's lashing out.

........................... little does he know he's up for the chop! :D

Vanessa 25-07-2013 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard (Post 6210741)
Dan thinks his snuggle bunny Hazel is 100% certain to be booted on Friday and he's lashing out.

........................... little does he know he's up for the chop! :D

That's true. If only he knew how close he is to being evicted. :joker:

Lex 25-07-2013 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6210720)
Sanctimonious ugly fat women :joker:

That's gotta be worth a warning, if my saying that Dan was horrible was! :joker:

Lex 25-07-2013 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 6210744)
That's true. If only he knew how close he is to being evicted. :joker:

Fingers crossed!!...hope they tell them tomorrow morning! :hugesmile:

Vanessa 25-07-2013 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lex (Post 6210750)
Fingers crossed!!...hope they tell them tomorrow morning! :hugesmile:

I think they'll wait until Emma talks to the House. :devil:

Patricia4 25-07-2013 05:11 PM

I hope its tonight.

CaudleHalbard 25-07-2013 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 6210753)
I think they'll wait until Emma talks to the House.

I think you are right. She can say "Big Brother told you a lie".

They will then start speculating what other lies they've been told, eg order of popularity!

jet 25-07-2013 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ellen (Post 6210718)
Then it shouldnt be hard for him to work out that if D &G saw things he & the other HM's didnt then public will have seen what D&G did.

Of course. But he couldn't know the extent of it or whether D&G, being popular with the public, could have swayed outside opinion by their reactions in the safe house.

joeysteele 25-07-2013 05:14 PM

Well I think Dan is on a slightly wrong foot here, first of all BB was really eager for Hazel and Daley to start some romance, that is even borne out by them pairing them together for the public to vote 2 people into the safe house.

When Dexter and Gina,(and being honest Gina particularly does hate Hazel), were in the safe house, most of what we saw on the highlights, edited by BB though ,were in the main Dexter and Gina focussing on Hazel and Daley very negatively.

It's odd yesterday though, Dan was pilloried on here but for seemingly not standing by Hazel now, today when he is trying to work out how she may be disliked and is sort of standing up for her he is pilloried again.
Unbelievable.

As I said, I think he is wrong to say Dexter and Gina are all to blame for Hazel being more disliked but they are partly to blame because in the main, it was Hazel who got the real blacklash from them in the safe house.

On the other side,Hazel has never been that complimentary as to Gina and Dexter so really it is like 6 of one and half a dozen of the other.
I do know a good few people who really turned on Hazel during that time of Dexter and Gina in the safe house watching them.however to be fair to Dexter and Gina,they had no idea what BB were actually showing from their time in the safe house.
So they are not really to blame and Hazel does have to bear much of the blame herself for not seemingly being liked still.

It is not particularly fair she isn't liked but it can be hard to turn things around on BB,very few housemates are and have been able to.

Vanessa 25-07-2013 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard (Post 6210769)
I think you are right. She can say "Big Brother told you a lie".

They will then start speculating what other lies they've been told, eg order of popularity!

True. I just want to see Dan reaction. :laugh:

Lex 25-07-2013 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 6210779)
True. I just want to see Dan reaction. :laugh:

I would rather see the meltdown that he would certainly have on the saturday hl's! :joker::joker:....cruel?..yes I know...but that's just me, I just can't stand the smug sanctimonious pratttt! lol :devil:

joeysteele 25-07-2013 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lex (Post 6210801)
I would rather see the meltdown that he would certainly have on the saturday hl's! :joker::joker:....cruel?..yes I know...but that's just me, I just can't stand the smug sanctimonious pratttt! lol :devil:

Well at least you are constant all the way through and I respect you for that.

Rather than just chopping and changing your tune all the time, trying to wind others up that like him.

Indy 25-07-2013 05:40 PM

Dan blames Gina, the twins blame BB's edit. You'd think someone in there would wonder what happened in the SH that Daley might be dishing to the tabloids - they all saw that tennis ball. WE know the truth, but shouldn't they at least wonder?

Vanessa 25-07-2013 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy (Post 6210847)
Dan blames Gina, the twins blame BB's edit. You'd think someone in there would wonder what happened in the SH that Daley might be dishing to the tabloids - they all saw that tennis ball. WE know the truth, but shouldn't they at least wonder?

Omg! Your sig! I think the twins are going to give me nightmares . :joker::joker:

Indy 25-07-2013 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 6210850)
Omg! Your sig! I think the twins are going to give me nightmares . :joker::joker:

I tried to shrink it but it doesn't look like it updated, sorry bout that :P

hijaxers 25-07-2013 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Spoon (Post 6210587)
I can understand this doing his head in, although as a detective, he might, unfortunately, be used to women being blamed and judged following rapes and other assaults.

OK Yes but couldn't Detective Dan also reason that there may be things Hazels not saying ! Surely he didn't take people at face value as a police officer , so why has he just taken Hazel's word ?
He has been over zealous in accusing or not believing other HM's stories so why does he think Hazel has been honest ? :conf::conf:

alex_front2 25-07-2013 06:01 PM

Typical whitr copper
#stopandsearch

boomoo 25-07-2013 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 6210417)
Dan is just bored I would imagine and he's trying to exercise his brain lol, it is quite an interesting theory to be fair to him, it's not right but interesting none the less

The problem for Dan is he does not know what we know and Hazel is not going to tell him what really happened in the ' not so safe house'.

boomoo 25-07-2013 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 6210772)
Well I think Dan is on a slightly wrong foot here, first of all BB was really eager for Hazel and Daley to start some romance, that is even borne out by them pairing them together for the public to vote 2 people into the safe house.

When Dexter and Gina,(and being honest Gina particularly does hate Hazel), were in the safe house, most of what we saw on the highlights, edited by BB though ,were in the main Dexter and Gina focussing on Hazel and Daley very negatively.

It's odd yesterday though, Dan was pilloried on here but for seemingly not standing by Hazel now, today when he is trying to work out how she may be disliked and is sort of standing up for her he is pilloried again.
Unbelievable.

As I said, I think he is wrong to say Dexter and Gina are all to blame for Hazel being more disliked but they are partly to blame because in the main, it was Hazel who got the real blacklash from them in the safe house.

On the other side,Hazel has never been that complimentary as to Gina and Dexter so really it is like 6 of one and half a dozen of the other.
I do know a good few people who really turned on Hazel during that time of Dexter and Gina in the safe house watching them.however to be fair to Dexter and Gina,they had no idea what BB were actually showing from their time in the safe house.
So they are not really to blame and Hazel does have to bear much of the blame herself for not seemingly being liked still.

It is not particularly fair she isn't liked but it can be hard to turn things around on BB,very few housemates are and have been able to.

It is very hard to turn things round when you are as attractive as Hazel. Woman are the main voters and they vote women out first if they can.

Indy 25-07-2013 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by boomoo (Post 6211219)
It is very hard to turn things round when you are as attractive as Hazel. Woman are the main voters and they vote women out first if they can.

If it's about looks, why on earth did Wolfy and Jemima go so early?

CaudleHalbard 25-07-2013 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy (Post 6211282)
If it's about looks, why on earth did Wolfy and Jemima go so early?

Or indeed Skidmark Sallie!

Lex 25-07-2013 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 6210830)
Well at least you are constant all the way through and I respect you for that.

Rather than just chopping and changing your tune all the time, trying to wind others up that like him.

Joey, it's only a gameshow!...and a bit of winding up means nothing in the long run. There's nothing personal toward anyone on this forum! ..in fact, I cant really think of anyone that I would like to hurt...and if I have then please accept my sincere apologies, and believe me when I say that it's just a bit of banter..:flowers:
Contrary to the actual idea behind it's conception...This is not a social experiment!...How can it be, when all of the housemates know that they are under consrant close scrutiny?...It is just a gameshow!
I personally do not really look at the show too seriously!...it's just pantomime to me. ...I chose a hero/heroine and tend to look for the positives....and chose a villain, and look for all of their negatives!...it doesn't really mean that I actually "hate" anyone on the show...even Captain Dan!...in real life, who knows, we could be best friends!!...but the persona that he has chosen for his "game"...is one that kinda grates on my nerves...to me he just comes over as a smug little big head that feels it is his "career-given-right" to judge people...condescendingly!...In other words...Dan just chose the wrong gameplan for my liking!, and i'd rather lose him now than any of the others! [the twins run him very close!]

Well that's me anyway, obviously you see it differently...but it doesn't mean that we can't remain friends....or take any of the foolishness of forum rantings serious! :thumbs:

Cheers buddy.

Vanessa 25-07-2013 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Lex (Post 6211318)
Joey, it's only a gameshow!...and a bit of winding up means nothing in the long run. There's nothing personal toward anyone on this forum! ..in fact, I cant really think of anyone that I would like to hurt...and if I have then please accept my sincere apologies, and believe me when I say that it's just a bit of banter..:flowers:
Contrary to the actual idea behind it's conception...This is not a social experiment!...How can it be, when all of the housemates know that they are under consrant close scrutiny?...It is just a gameshow!
I personally do not really look at the show too seriously!...it's just pantomime to me. ...I chose a hero/heroine and tend to look for the positives....and chose a villain, and look for all of their negatives!...it doesn't really mean that I actually "hate" anyone on the show...even Captain Dan!...in real life, who knows, we could be best friends!!...but the persona that he has chosen for his "game"...is one that kinda grates on my nerves...to me he just comes over as a smug little big head that feels it is his "career-given-right" to judge people...condescendingly!...In other words...Dan just chose the wrong gameplan for my liking!, and i'd rather lose him now than any of the others! [the twins run him very close!]

Well that's me anyway, obviously you see it differently...but it doesn't mean that we can't remain friends....or take any of the foolishness of forum rantings serious! :thumbs:

Cheers buddy.

I change my mind about Dan all the time and i always have. Sometimes i like him, other times i hate him. He's a marmite character. :hugesmile:

CaudleHalbard 25-07-2013 07:59 PM

Lex is right it is all pantomime. We boo and cheer.

The moment we start taking it too seriously, gawd help us! ;)

joeysteele 25-07-2013 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by boomoo (Post 6211219)
It is very hard to turn things round when you are as attractive as Hazel. Woman are the main voters and they vote women out first if they can.

That is very true.

Vanessa 25-07-2013 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard (Post 6211324)
Lex is right it is all pantomime. We boo and cheer.

The moment we start taking it too seriously, gawd help us! ;)

True. Like Dexter says, it's all a game. If someone offends me i just put them on ignore. Avoids arguments. :pipe:

joeysteele 25-07-2013 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Lex (Post 6211318)
Joey, it's only a gameshow!...and a bit of winding up means nothing in the long run. There's nothing personal toward anyone on this forum! ..in fact, I cant really think of anyone that I would like to hurt...and if I have then please accept my sincere apologies, and believe me when I say that it's just a bit of banter..:flowers:
Contrary to the actual idea behind it's conception...This is not a social experiment!...How can it be, when all of the housemates know that they are under consrant close scrutiny?...It is just a gameshow!
I personally do not really look at the show too seriously!...it's just pantomime to me. ...I chose a hero/heroine and tend to look for the positives....and chose a villain, and look for all of their negatives!...it doesn't really mean that I actually "hate" anyone on the show...even Captain Dan!...in real life, who knows, we could be best friends!!...but the persona that he has chosen for his "game"...is one that kinda grates on my nerves...to me he just comes over as a smug little big head that feels it is his "career-given-right" to judge people...condescendingly!...In other words...Dan just chose the wrong gameplan for my liking!, and i'd rather lose him now than any of the others! [the twins run him very close!]

Well that's me anyway, obviously you see it differently...but it doesn't mean that we can't remain friends....or take any of the foolishness of forum rantings serious! :thumbs:

Cheers buddy.

Didn't mean you at all, I commended you for being consistent.
I take all things seriously and I have had a fair bit to take on here this series in fact.

CaudleHalbard 25-07-2013 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 6211330)
I take all things seriously

So we've noticed! Chill buddy!:)

Vanessa 25-07-2013 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard (Post 6211337)
So we've noticed! Chill buddy!:)

It's only a gameshow! It's only a gamshow. :dance:

Speedster 25-07-2013 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ellen (Post 6210449)
Why is he blaming Gina? Does he not think that it could be Hazel herself who has turned the public off her?

Gina spent her time bitching about and punishing Hazel through horrible,humiliating tasks like cleaning the whole house for something like 7hrs while others had fun and got some nice food.

Speedster 25-07-2013 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kris (Post 6210506)
No one is to blame for the public hating Hazel except for Hazel.


You have a very high opinion of BB fans, then.:spin:

Lex 25-07-2013 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 6211330)
Didn't mean you at all, I commended you for being consistent.
I take all things seriously and I have had a fair bit to take on here this series in fact.

Life's too short Joey...take it from an old timer! :hugesmile:

I've read tons of your posts over the past couple of years, and have come to respect your dedicated thoughtfulness when posting your views[and our friend The Mockinator too!]...but it really is not worth taking too serious my young friend, :thumbs:...but perhaps only time will reveal this truism. ...I'd better shut up now, because I keep banging on about not liking preachers! :joker:

Cheers buddy.

Speedster 25-07-2013 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lily. (Post 6210524)
I agree. Before Daley assaulted her, the public was against Hazel. She was viewed as a home-wrecker. She broke the girl-code by openly flirting with someone who has a girlfriend, and female viewers do not like that.

After Daley assaulted her, some viewers were sympathetic. I feel bad for her for what happened to her in the safe house, however, I dislike her as a person, and that won't change just because something bad happened to her.



By "girl-code" do you mean the double standard that basically means a man can do what he wants but a woman has to be careful?. :shocked:

Speedster 25-07-2013 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 6210567)
The initial dislike started with the Daley showmance, since then she's just become an easy target for hateful people.

He's not entirely wrong though: Gina has been clear about disliking Hazel and the public, for some reason, think the sun shines out of Gina's arse. In reality, as her reaction to the snake costume in the DR shows, she's just another one of those hateful, immature people who gets her jollies from seeing people upset. No wonder "the public" likes her... like attracts like, I suppose.



Absolutely-Gina's horrible and a total hypocrite; the great British public'll get the "winner" it deserves.

Kazanne 25-07-2013 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 6210830)
Well at least you are constant all the way through and I respect you for that.

Rather than just chopping and changing your tune all the time, trying to wind others up that like him.

Hey Joey,we sing from the same song sheet,it's hard to wade through the crap sometimes,but it'll be worth it in the end:hugesmile: I don't mind Dan at all there are far worse than him in there.


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