[QUOTE=Brother Leon;6328133]Doesn't matter if it was used in an offensive way or not. Just using the word is unacceptable and would be offensive to loads of people watching.


So it's ok for Big Brother to say it when they quote someone else's use of the word

But it's not ok for Carol say it when she quote's someone else's use of the word

That makes sense!!

Somebody is always bloody offended, they need to switch it off

... said the white woman.

..all they really had do is to tell her that she used the same word that he used which had caused so much offence originally without actually quoting the word themselves, they've just made themselves look stupid...

It is all a PC storm in a teacup brewed up by BB to create a headline for one of Desmond's papers.

Oh,Lord.

Im just going to ignore this thread I think. It's for the best.

[QUOTE=Lord Of The Garden;6328152]..no it's not ok for them to say it, they've just made themselves look stupid..

[QUOTE=Ammi;6328164]I agree

Ok by their standards i meant. Not ok by mine.

Am I not allowed an opinion because I'm white? I just find it hypocritical they reward Ron by paying him to go in the house when he's been racist, that's the main reason he's probably been offered the role but then give somebody a warning for simply repeating his words.

[QUOTE=Lord Of The Garden;6328168]..yeah I hope they get pulled up about it...

k bye now

reward Ron? my god.. he is not being rewarded.. he's spent the past 10 years or so being called a racist and he's lost his job, hes not been rewarded in any way. You think they've stuck him in there because of what he said? take what he said out of this completely and hes still one of the most famous faces in the house this series.

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Livia.. I agree it's a completely unacceptable word in any context... But surely quoting somebody can't be taken in the same context?

Ill admit I didn't know who Ron was when he went in... I asked Dave who he was and he said " oh he's that football guy, a racist bastard" . I said "racist? How?" . He replied "he called somebody a ******" both Dave and I are soo against racism/bigotry/any sort of prejudiced ****, so surely his comment to me couldn't have been taken as offensive ?

Truth talk

Yes, you're allowed an opinion, even if it is that people should switch off if they don't like it. You said "somebody is always bloody offended". I would point out that they too are allowed an opinion.

It wasn't taken in the same context. They said that Big Brother deemed the language unacceptable. The language was unacceptable. Big Brother was right to tell he so and give her a chance to apologise.

But what if they are white too?

You're literally arguing about the idea that white girls should be allowed the opinion to not find the word ****** offensive. Its odd that you can't understand how stupid that sounds.

The allegations made against Ron were years ago and Carol was attemting to stab him in the back, that's what I found offensive.

We've had several conversations on this forum about the "N word" and I've yet to see anyone type it out in full. If we can manage to discuss it without putting the actual word out there, you'd think that Carol, a media professional supposedly, would be able to manage it too. She didn't repeat the quote in the privacy of her own home, she said it on Big Brother with cameras on her.

This...

I typed it out in full in another thread, it hits the Filter!

I don't see that it makes any difference. I'm white and I think the use of the word was wrong and deserved a warning, even if BB stupidly broadcast themselves repeating it back to her.

You can get round the swear filter fingers... don't make me show you..............

They only included that clip so that the Sunday Smut could trumpet its headline for tomorrow!

The thing about C5 is if they are so worried about viewers being offended why broadcast the conversation in the first place.

It is not like with the BB8 Emily situation where there was a 24-hour live feed.

It looks a lot like they broadcast this type of thing so that the Daily Star can print a screaming headline eg. 'LOOSE WOMEN BB RACISM SHOCK' which they are hoping will generate some public controversy over the show, and then increase the ratings.

I know that, and I know how as well, I didn't know that THAT word would be filtered! it was a two word phrase and the second word was Brown.....!

It's just not an okay word to say, regardless of connotation. I try not to replace it with things like "the n word" or "the n bomb" because then it just trivializes the actual word and replaces it with cutesy nicknames. It's not an okay word to say and she shouldn't have said it. Also, these "they should just switch off if they're offended" comments are just silly. I'm sure that if anybody's that offended they will switch off, you don't have to try and push them there.

I do agree though, that it was silly for them to censor her and then say it themselves. Either don't censor her, or censor yourselves.

Frankly I'm shocked that you're shocked.

And what James said is true, they should never have broadcast it in the first place.

If you go onto the other thread about racist remarks Germyle has posted 'shut up n****s' the word in full no stars .....

I said it in the post above his!

Yeah, well... there's always one.

Yes, I agreed with that post. :p

she deserved the warning purely for the fact that she is such an idiot that she actually went and said the word rather than just said something like the 'n word'.

I agree with you both then. Fingers, you know I only ever skim your posts.....................

So are you shocked ? it wasn't alluded to the word was put quite clearly , hopefully you will let them know your thoughts on the subject .

I think you of all people on here know my thoughts on words and beliefs like this, so it's certainly not a case of me condoning the use of the word.

I should've made it clear in the OP that my issue is with these endless 'formal warnings' they give out, in the past you would have had to repeat certain actions a few times to receive one, now it seems they'll give one out regardless. Housemates used to be reprimanded and threatened with a formal warning if they were to repeat the same behaviour, and that's exactly what I think would've been sufficient in this circumstance. A reminder that although she was just quoting what had been said and Big Brother understood that, just not to use it again or she'd then receive a formal warning. That's my issue.

No, I'm not shocked. I've been on this forum a while. Besides you'd already replied to that particular post hadn't you? I had nothing else to add. Is that okay?

Hello Jack...

I remember them throwing a girl out for quoting a song lyric that contained the word, no malice, no insult intended... a song lyric. But in this case, I think James (okay, and fingers...) hit the nail on the head when they said that BB shouldn't have broadcast it in the first place.