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Not a chance.......i bet you its the shows directors that are keeping her in not the public...Watch this space

Speidi didn't have gender issues. Bye.

Well this is just...dumb :shrug: of course it left you confused, I don't exactly expect you to understand the complexity of sexuality, but just so you know it isn't a black and white 100% either way thing, bisexuality does exist and it's a sliding scale that varies from person to person. But that's another debate entirely and I'm not sure it's one I want to get into with you...

I seem to like housemates with gender issues, really? That could possibly hold up if I didn't think Luke A was a ****ing dullard and a terrible winner. I didn't like him so...your point kind of fails before its even got going. And then you add the fact that some of my favourite housemates include Marcus, Makosi, Rex, Gina, Dexter, Aaron, Speidi, John James, Rebeckah, Charley, Shannon twins, Stephen Baldwin to name but a few, as well as the fact that I like(d) Carol, Louie, Courtney and Sophie this year...and well...I don't remember any of these housemates having gender issues? So your point has failed spectacularly when you consider that out of the many favourite housemates I've had over the years, only one has had 'gender issues' and I detested another that did and ender up winning. Where you've got this assumption from is beyond me.

I don't care what she's driven by and to be honest it's irrelevant, if she's contributing to the show that's all that matters. I really don't get why this is so difficult, if housemates like Lauren and Carol left the show wouldn't be worth watching...it's near dull enough as it is at the minute.

LOL exactly, I've seen some bizarre things on here before but that is just taking the piss...

Jack your drivle post was way too long for me to quote on my I phone but I guess your tender years and incomprehensible view of gender and sexuality derives from stuff you've read in books. Gender issues are not that complicated, it's people like you that have your own personal views that make it a minefield. Anyway I dint know why I am debatingvqith someone who hasn't even decided which way his own lifes issues are working out Chet invtouch with me when puberty sets in or you ate old enough to go to a pub.

No she wont...who would want to hire her...she is a walking disaster and high maintainance. She will return to Wales hopefully and re-attatch herself to mummys apron strings.

Thats Lauren and Charlotte out then!!!

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I haven't... thats why we see as an act and not being her true self..

Ken take your insults elsewhere. Nobody mentioned spiedi. Are you bored that nobodies fighting with you today son. Get a life and trill someone else. I was talkingvtobyoung jack. He needs guidance. Unlike you he hasn't learned how to piss people off to a degree tgey get infracted, an art you seem to have perfected. Have you run out of pregnant celebs to myther.

I honestly believe Lauren doesn't mean half the things she says, i feel as though she says things that she believes the majority feels and then blurts them out under pressure to fit in.

I don't think Lauren deserves to win BB but i really wouldn't mind if she did win. Some things are more important than who deserves to win big brother in the traditional sense, thats 15 mins of success and acceptance would do so much for her as she is blatantly lacking self-confidence and seems to have had a rather miserable life.

That wasn't even an insult :D

You then go on to insult me :joker:

Trying to patronize Jack is ridiculous when you post the ****e that you do.

Yes I agree. What do they expect Lauren to do on TV after this? They have been trying and failing to get her on the box to any great degree since she was a child. I also don't recognise the Lauren she is portraying in the house at all.

Sadly I agree,Lauren has this in the bag ,on pity, not merit

Lauren will have a mix of her true fans, probably a lot of Welsh votes, and plenty of sympathy votes. I am not even watching so don't even care who wins, but even so can predict Lauren has it in the bag, much to the BB producers joy, who probably have her lined up for AJ's job.

Would far rather Lauren won than a bore like Abz or the foul mouthed, attention seeking, Charlotte. Perhaps Mario might win, who knows?

I'm voting for her because she is funny, and tries to be a nice person. I can then feel sympathy for that character. If Carol was beaten by her dad to be a bitch, I could also feel sympathy for her as well. But Carol would require a much greater reason for her sympathy vote than Lauren.

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And sadly Sam won not for entertainment, because People felt sorry for him.


Lauren to WIN

WRONG ,Sam won because people LIKED him

You think Carol had an easy upbringing ? She didn't. Not that mine is a sympathy vote.

Once again I'll ask you the same question.

I've supported over the years housemates such as Marcus, Makosi, Sam Pepper, Rex, Gina, Dexter, Charley, Derek, Aaron...to name just a few, did any of these people have 'gender issues'? And also, if I support people because they have 'gender issues', why did I detest Luke A for being an awful dullard and think he is one of the worst ever winners?

You can't just make assumptions like that based on one housemate. So one housemate I support happens to be transgender but we'll forget about the 30 others that I supported that weren't? Do you have any way of actually justifying Sam's argument or are you just agreeing with him because it's a post against me?

And people don't like Lauren? Eh?

I love Carol,and have never heard her trying to get the pity voters ,shes a genuine,fun housemate who deserves to win,but sadly she wont

Jack Ffs drop the psycho mimbo jumbo. You just can't pull it off. Respect tour elders as they know better. Being a rebellious child isn't qualification for supremacy.

I agree and she had some bad stuff to deal with.Good for her.

And just gets on and loves life, all power to her

I don't see what is wrong with Lauren she is funny entertaing and I feel sorry for her because stupid ********ers chucking stones and stuff at her house.

Firstly the words 'gender issues' and 'transgender' aren't 'psycho mimbo jumbo' and secondly I'd respect you and you would 'know better' if you understood not only the complexity of sexuality but the clear point I've put across to you that out of the thirty odd housemates I've supported over the years, only one has been transgender and another housemate who was transgender and ended up winning I absolutely detested. Your point just doesn't hold up and I've presented you with a counter argument why and yet you can't seem to respond so are just resorting to childish insults.

You made an assumption that I support housemates that have 'gender issues'. Only one housemate out of the many series I've watched has been trans, and another one that was I didn't like at all...so how can this point hold up? The answer - it can't, unless you want to try and defend it?

Ulrika and Denise did Chuff....never give up.

Well yes ,you could well be right there Rusty xx But weve all heard daily how Lauren claims she "needs" to win ,and the gulible public will be sat there watching the show with tissues at the ready

I want Lauren to win. She's done so well in there. I'm surprised how much i like her. I do like Carol as well. That's why i'm chuffed they've been paired up for today's task. Larol? :amazed:

its not pity for me, she's proper made me laugh and kept me entertained, I don't do sympathy votes, if I like to watch a housemate and they keep me interested then they get my vote.

Dude don't even bother, you don't need to justify your own sexual preference(s) or opinions to a bigoted old man who constantly lies and goes after people who have a difference of opinion then himself. He's not here to have an educated debate and exchange ideas, he's here to tell others that they're wrong and he's right. Anyone with a contemporary and progressive education and view on reality will see your opinions and points are certainly valid and well balanced. :)

lots of people like Lauren too?

The only good thing about Lauren winning is that Lauren isn't in "The Crew".

:elephant: Vids is mellowing

Welcome to the Laurenettes. :xyxwave: Pull up a chair.

I think it's weird how some can't accept anyone who is different and have to conform to the stereotypes they have been told to follow by their super rich puppetmasters

who really control the politicians and the media

She isn't weird. She is just nervous as anyone with any sense would be with all the ignorant bigotry about transgendered around