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lostalex 18-10-2013 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Verbal (Post 6437112)
We are lovers

I can tell that you guys have very spicy hot sexualness.

lostalex 18-10-2013 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 6437058)
I think it's safe to say that there are countless planets in this galaxy alone that are host to life as intelligent / more intelligent (and more advanced) than we are... however, I personally don't believe that aliens have or ever will visit Earth (nor will humans visit worlds with intelligent alien life), because I strongly suspect that FTL (faster than light) travel is physically impossible. So all of these intelligent lifeforms will be confined to their own little corners of the galaxy, never having contact with any of the others... well, except those who are lucky (or unlucky I guess?) enough to have an alien neighbour "next door", within the same solar system or in the systems of the closest stars that would be possible to reach fairly easily at sub-light speeds.

Anyway... HYPOTHETICALLY they would probably be better to keep it from most people. Most people don't even like to face the uncomfortable truths of the world as it is outside their own little bubble (family, work, friends). Most people don't even "want to know" when it comes to domestic politics... certainly not global concerns... so, they definitely would prefer to stick their heads in the sand when it comes to extraterrestrial matters.

Then again, considering that, they might as well make the information easily "findable". THen those who want to know will know, and those who don't want to know will go on in ignorant bliss / pretending that it isn't happening... as they do with anything else that doesn't "fit" in their comfortable mindset.

exactly. some religious people can't even handle the truth about evolution. imagine if we found out that aliens had manipulated our genetics and our evolution? they would lose their minds. they would probably think that they are demons or satan or the anti-christ or whatever. they would go insane.

Kyle 18-10-2013 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 6437200)
I can tell that you guys have very spicy hot sexualness.

And I can tell you want in on it, you only have to ask sweetcheeks.

Kyle 18-10-2013 08:04 PM

The question we really need to ask ourselves is if they did come, what exactly are we going to teach them? Great ways for them to kill each other? They are probably best off staying away to be honest.

lostalex 18-10-2013 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Simple Minds (Post 6437274)
And I can tell you want in on it, you only have to ask sweetcheeks.

I never have to ask.

Stu 18-10-2013 08:38 PM

I admire your passion on this subject. I would consider myself in the Fox Mulder "I want to believe" camp. Would totally like to get into this more when I am not typing on a godamn Xbox remote.

user104658 18-10-2013 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 6437214)
exactly. some religious people can't even handle the truth about evolution. imagine if we found out that aliens had manipulated our genetics and our evolution? they would lose their minds. they would probably think that they are demons or satan or the anti-christ or whatever. they would go insane.

I don't think they would, "faith" and (to be blunt) habitual selective blindness are built into religion from the ground up. If they hadn't seen it with their own eyes (actual aliens and ships) they would claim that it was a lie / hoax / it didn't happen / false evidence was planted by God for unknown reasons (I have heard 7-day hardcore Christians claim that Dinosaurs were around a few thousand years ago, and that God deliberately made it SEEM like fossils are older, for... some reason??).

If it was indisputable that they were really here, their ships were in the sky, and they were talking to people then they would go for the second fallback: that God also made the aliens and that any meddling they did with our DNA / hand they had in the creation of humanity was part of a plan set in motion by God, so really, everything is the same. You'll see this in the "Scientific Christians" who do believe in evolution and that the Earth formed over billions of years. They simply "reinterpret" (read: alter) the meaning of religious texts to suit, so all of a sudden the 7 days of creation are a metaphor, evolution did happen but it's all part of a design set in motion by God, etc. etc.

They'd find a way to warp the facts to make them fit, basically. They always do. You'd probably have a cult or two springing up claiming that Jesus was in fact an alien sent by God to get us back on track.

Kyle 18-10-2013 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 6437616)
I don't think they would, "faith" and (to be blunt) habitual selective blindness are built into religion from the ground up. If they hadn't seen it with their own eyes (actual aliens and ships) they would claim that it was a lie / hoax / it didn't happen / false evidence was planted by God for unknown reasons (I have heard 7-day hardcore Christians claim that Dinosaurs were around a few thousand years ago, and that God deliberately made it SEEM like fossils are older, for... some reason??).

If it was indisputable that they were really here, their ships were in the sky, and they were talking to people then they would go for the second fallback: that God also made the aliens and that any meddling they did with our DNA / hand they had in the creation of humanity was part of a plan set in motion by God, so really, everything is the same. You'll see this in the "Scientific Christians" who do believe in evolution and that the Earth formed over billions of years. They simply "reinterpret" (read: alter) the meaning of religious texts to suit, so all of a sudden the 7 days of creation are a metaphor, evolution did happen but it's all part of a design set in motion by God, etc. etc.

They'd find a way to warp the facts to make them fit, basically. They always do. You'd probably have a cult or two springing up claiming that Jesus was in fact an alien sent by God to get us back on track.

In the last 100 years cults like Scientology have already started using the universe that we have been learning about as a basis for their crack pot delusions. It's probably likely that as new 'churches' spring up they will attempt to incorporate our new found knowledge of the universe and claim anything derived from it was at the hand of their chosen deity/overseer.

Me. I Am Salman 18-10-2013 09:30 PM

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because they don't exist

Kyle 18-10-2013 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Salman! (Post 6437691)
Spoiler:

because they don't exist

There are more stars in the universe than there are grains of sand on earth. Each star has the potential to house orbiting planets and even if just a minute percentage of those planets are within the bounds of the habitable zone then There is every chance that life outside of the solar system exists.

lostalex 18-10-2013 10:02 PM

Contact is a great movie. one of my favorites.

I don't know for sure if aliens exist, but i hope they do. I think they do.

user104658 18-10-2013 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Simple Minds (Post 6437727)
There are more stars in the universe than there are grains of sand on earth. Each star has the potential to house orbiting planets and even if just a minute percentage of those planets are within the bounds of the habitable zone then There is every chance that life outside of the solar system exists.

It's practically a mathematical impossibility that intelligent life doesn't exist within our own galaxy... and there are innumerable galaxies in the Universe. Although, it's not as simple as saying that the planets have to be within the habitable zone of their solar system; they have to be in the habitable part of the galaxy, too... towards the centre of each galaxy, radiation levels and "cosmic events" are off the charts and nothing could survive... But anyway...

There will be billions upon billions of stars exactly like our sun, and a good percentage of those will be orbited by planets under exactly the same conditions as Earth, so the real question is... why WOULDN'T some of those host life just like Earth does? The idea that there are "no aliens" is insane... there simply must be. There are probably billions of alien species out there, and millions of intelligent ones. Or countless more. There might not even be just one Universe :shocked:

Although maybe they just mean "visitors", or aliens that have come to Earth, don't exist. Which is probably true.

Kyle 18-10-2013 10:21 PM

[QUOTE=Toy Soldier;6437826]It's practically a mathematical impossibility that intelligent life doesn't exist within our own galaxy... and there are innumerable galaxies in the Universe. Although, it's not as simple as saying that the planets have to be within the habitable zone of their solar system; they have to be in the habitable part of the galaxy, too... towards the centre of each galaxy, radiation levels and "cosmic events" are off the charts and nothing could survive... But anyway...

There will be billions upon billions of stars exactly like our sun, and a good percentage of those will be orbited by planets under exactly the same conditions as Earth, so the real question is... why WOULDN'T some of those host life just like Earth does? The idea that there are "no aliens" is insane... there simply must be. There are probably billions of alien species out there, and millions of intelligent ones. Or countless more. There might not even be just one Universe :shocked:

Although maybe they just mean "visitors", or aliens that have come to Earth, don't exist. Which is probably true.[
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He thought they said illegal aliens, signed up :spin:

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lostalex 14-08-2016 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus. (Post 6436498)
I wish the government of TIBB would keep thetruth from us.

:joker:

jennyjuniper 14-08-2016 01:03 PM

I'm inclined to believe that it is the governments of the world doing the abductions and testing all sorts of nasty stuff on their unsuspecting people.

kirklancaster 14-08-2016 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 6436506)
You'd have people abusing it if they knew about though, Oh I can't come into work today, was abducted by aliens last night and I have a pounding headache now

:laugh::laugh::laugh: Classic. LOL.

Tom4784 14-08-2016 01:09 PM

There's life in the universe, there has to be but I don't think we've ever encountered it and I hope we never do unless we're the ones to find it.

If a more advanced race managed to find their way to Earth it would end in a bloodbath. If an Alien's psychology was anything like ours then there's no way they'd come in peace.

lostalex 14-08-2016 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8914924)
There's life in the universe, there has to be but I don't think we've ever encountered it and I hope we never do unless we're the ones to find it.

If a more advanced race managed to find their way to Earth it would end in a bloodbath. If an Alien's psychology was anything like ours then there's no way they'd come in peace.

but you're assuming they would see us as a threat. what if they just see us as part of the landscape. the way we see animals. we don't go out of our way to make animals extinct, and we kinda feel guilty when we do hurt animals, but if we really need something, we don't hesitate to disrupt those animals and take what we want.

We don;'t want to hurt the planet, or the enviornment, or the animals, but we do... Maybe aliens would see humans the same way, we are just part of the universe, and they don't want to hurt us, they might even think we're cute... that doesn't mean they don't ever harm us though, in their pursuit of knowledge and study. if they are millions of years more evolved, they'd see us the same way we see apes. we don't hesitate to study res, even abduct some to put in a zoo. sometimes worse, we perform medical experiments on them after we start breeding them in captivity.

Tom4784 14-08-2016 01:25 PM

They wouldn't see us as animals, they'd see us as the dominant species and they'd go about trying to change that. It's what humans would do and I have no reason to believe other intelligent life would think differently.


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