So we're attributing their achievements/creations to weed?

Let's debunk some of those side effects, shall we...

It certainly can in some people, mostly if they are already experiencing those feelings or are in a negative or frightening environment. Like I said I use it both recreationally but also medicinally as an anxiolytic, and the only times I ever experienced increased anxiety were minimal and fleeting and only happened when I first started smoking. EVERYONE I know uses it to calm them down, aside from one friend with anxiety who I mentioned who says it slightly worsens their anxiety but they smoke it anyway because it doesn't deter from the enjoyable effects. Everyone's different, and if it's not enjoyable to you, don't smoke it, but I've come across very few people who would object to a nice blunt.

This was actually just recently debunked! Check out this link:http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/12...nia/63148.html

People with higher IQs are actually more prone to drug use. My friend was actually a straight-A student who was like ranked #8 in our class when she was expelled for possession :crazy: and from personal experience I consistently achieve perfect/near-perfect results on standardized tests and consider myself highly intelligent.

If you have heart problems you definitely shouldn't be smoking anything, but there are a number of ways to consume marijuana. As for the weed itself causing heart problems, there is debate and conflicting reports, but like I said earlier, if you're afraid it will harm your heart, do your research and make a judgement call. It of course raises heart rate but not to danger levels.

Like I said, so many benefits.

Smoking anything when you're pregnant can lower birth weight. Try vaporizing or edibles instead, or just not having kids bc wtf there are enough as it is, adopt if you must.

-Signed the Marijuana lobby omg

Great response swinearefine. I've had good and bad experiences with marijuana. Because I was taking hugely different strengths.

That's not what she said, merely stated the fact that marijuana can enhance creativity, not create it. The two terms are worlds apart. A failing writer obviously won't become a nationally-respected author because he had a joint the night before. It just encourages productivity in those who already have the ability, knowingly or otherwise.

I know it all sounds far-fetched and ridiculous but that's what it is, pretty much.

I'm a He, but I do agree with you.
I'm just looking to attract intellectual conversation.

If you read my last post you'll see I mentioned that some literary giants relied on 'tinctures' to aid them. I doubt any one of these famous creative minds put their success soley down to cannabis though, it has no magical quality that make mundane minds brilliant.

I miss smoking weed :(

I am already lazy enough, if I start smoking weed again I don't think i would get anything done

I think we should take Ninastar to Amsterdam for her next birthday.

you can argue that Marijuana can be good for you all you like, but the fact is it's still going to make some people really ill and I think there's enough things that do that already

can't wait!!!! im going to have sex with a prostitute

Likewise you can copy and paste school journal arguments all you like but it's not exactly a game changer. The benefits of legalization far outweigh the comparatively thin side effects that a very small percentage of users may or may not face.

I really don't know how I feel about legalisation... I know I have very negative feelings towards cannabis, but that's just a personal thing. I do think there are a few advantages to it being legalised but I really don't know. :shrug:

Get back to smoking it again then LOL. :tongue:

lmao no it's not. You can be ignorant to the facts all you want, but it's you who is missing out. What makes me really ill is the constant dissemination of prohibition dreck such as this.

EDIT: bee tee dubz thanks for such a well-thought out and thorough answer!

and most important - take tax from it and concentrate on the far more dangerous drugs out there.


i hope the legalization in my life time. but i have my reservations.

lmao, now I'm ignorant for believing various science reports over a few forum members? LOL only on tibb

I believe the term is "propaganda" not "science." And no, not only on TiBB, I think you'll find some intelligence in other places as well.

This pisses me off too Caitlin. Putting the science reports to one side, I've seen the negative effects of serious cannabis use. ..

they will never ever legalize it. you cant even drink smoke or fart these days. you think anybody is going to legalize that . no chance

smeagol not speak with forked tongue!:cat:

So have i.. I've known a number of people to say that is messed with their minds.

how, smeg no speak forked tongue
we smoke peace pipe now talk of buffalo and little big bum who ride with wind in hair and dances with chickens and wolves

:worship:


It's great for you swinearefine that smoking weed has such a great impact on your life, however that's not everyone's experience from it, and it is a dangerous drug.

The only negative side effect of smoking weed is how much you then have to talk about how you smoke weed

(totally stole this off Smithy)

Did I not say that it's not for everyone? And omfg at it being a dangerous drug, are we living in the same world? Perhaps I have some more life experiences, because I know plenty about dangerous drugs and weed is not one of them. Genuinely cannot believe so many people have such antiquated views on this.

Antiquated? Well how about we legalise everything like it was in the stone age, that would really be progress.

And fair enough if you don't think a substance that can cause psychotic episodes dangerous, I think that's naive on your behalf, or you are only trying to see only the good about your drug of choice. Just because there are more dangerous drugs out there, it doesn't make this one safe.

I've no problem with substances that can do us harm being put in a box marked illegal, that way the people who don't want to get high can avoid them and get on with living in society instead of escaping from it.

Also how great would the world be if marijuana was legal everywhere and people smoked it all the time? I'm not sure doctors, dentists or police would be that efficient. The likes of the midwives, fire fighters or teachers wouldn't been too good at their jobs either. So this dope smoking utopia is fine for the dope smokers, but what about the rest of society?

Sure it's a handy way to get some much needed tax revenue, but it's going to create more problems in the future.

Since when did you and my grandmother get to talking about the devil's lettuce? There is so much wrong with this post, I don't know where to begin - must be because I'm too damn high to function :rolleyes:

First off, I totally agree with legalizing everything, and actually giving people a proper education about drugs, their dangers, their benefits, and allowing them to make informed decisions and purchase their products in stores which generate tax revenue and help to reduce the violence and deaths caused by the ludicrous war on drugs.

I don't know where you're getting your information about marijuana causing psychotic episodes, but as I linked to earlier, it has been recently debunked that marijuana causes schizophrenia. Sure, it can cause anxiety in some, but for the overwhelming majority it calms them down and improves their mood. For the few who find the drug to cause them to go into psychotic episodes - of whom I have met none and heard of none, and trust me when I say that I have met more smokers ranging from first time casual 14-year-olds to lifetime stoners - don't use it then? Like I said, it's vital for people to be properly informed about the chemistry and effects of drugs in schools instead of being filled with a load of bull**** propaganda. Actually by propagating this myth of weed as a dangerous substance it only leads people, especially kids hearing it in school, to ridicule all drug education and not realize that some of it is quite valid such as when it comes to the dangers of hard drugs.

And um, people do smoke it all the time. Yes, your doctor, teacher, dentist, etc quite possibly does smoke the ganja! And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, as long as they are sober when they are performing tasks that require them to be such.

The world wouldn't be a dope utopia if everyone smoked because... most of the world does smoke? And it's absolutely absurd to say that it would cause problems because legalization (both of weed and hard drugs) would actually take power away from drug cartels, provide safety standards for both weed and hard drugs, and ultimately protect users, curb addiction, lower the incarceration rate, and provide a boon to the economy.

I would continue but it seems minds are just too closed to realize what is so obvious, but the bottom line is that by spreading misinformation about marijuana you are helping to destroy society and that is very sickening to me.

You mentioned your life experience earlier, meaning it should give your points of view extra value, well perhaps you should treat your grandmother's words the same way, it seems to me like she's pretty wise.

You also mentioned that I'm the one here who has a closed mind, well I beg to differ, I looked and the evidence plus my personal experience before forming my opinion on this subject. It seems to me that you're so gung ho about legalising this, you've ignored any evident that shows your drug in a bad light. I feel if you take off the weed tinted glasses and look at the subject again, you may come to a different conclusion, rather than just looking for evidence that supports your point of view, try look at it freshly from both sides.

Lastly the idea you have about most of the world is smoking marijuana, is wrong, I believe dope smokers, pot heads, stoners are a tiny minority.

I've been meaning to try it recently, but I'm not nearly proactive enough to go out and procure some. Should the occasion arise I'll do so then :P

:worship: QUEEN GG

I think its a bad idea. I have no problem with its use but legalising it will cause more interest in the substance with many becoming dependent paranoid idiots.

I totally agree.
But the thing about drugs is, it all comes down to subjective opinion. We're all different. What works for you won't necessarily work for me, and vice verse, and we cannot legislate on the basis of our own personal experience. There's no one cure for all.

And, what you take or do with your own body is your own business.

Debunked?.... I would love to know who and how years of scientific study were 'recently debunked'?

Explain, please.

At the risk of reiterating what's been accounted for a dozen times already, a lot of that paranoia will be as a result of the substance being grown by criminals. The government would ideally regulate it properly and even out the THC content, so the problem actually stems from illegality.

Not to mention the fact that dope clearly isn't for everyone and anecdotal evidence isn't really a useful barometer for measuring the effectiveness of this system. Person user experience differs from person to person and looking at the wider picture gives a clearer idea and chances are marijuana won't cause any mental health issues unless you already have them (in which case you should never have begun).

I just find it hard to justify ruining lives for millions because of a plant when ruining lives is exactly what these rules are meant to protect against. :shrug:

Ideally, people would choose the drugs that best agree with them.
We're all rational beings, so we'd buy the best drug that suited us. We'd be educated, so that we didn't indulge in harmful drugs. Education seems to be the problem.

Agree. I certainly wouldn't be wasting time and money on cigarettes if weed were readily available.

The problem begins when you build up a tolerance, what happens when the you no longer feel the nice buzz from the THC content of legal cannabis?

only give it to people who need it for medical reasons
if you do it for fun then how about you stop trying to be hard and sort your ****ing life out
I don't want more druggies on my street and the absolutely FOUL stench of weed everywhere