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Vanessa 25-01-2014 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RobInnes (Post 6662366)
Wow. This Linda thing could get the show into a lot of trouble. :shocked:
That woman scares me.

Brother Leon 26-01-2014 12:07 AM
"Dappy, who was covered in so many tattoos I was driven to reading them all one evening, so desperate was I for a book, and who in a general knowledge test scored only six per cent, which embarrassed him hugely, proved himself a gentleman when for the third night in a row I was sat in the bedroom toilet, vomiting from the stress. He held my hair from my face, and rubbed my back, cooing all the while".

What a lovely guy.

Benjamin 26-01-2014 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 6662312)
She doesn't care about the truth. Her article is not truthful at all.
How do you know? Were you in there, or going by what BB has shown everyone?

Lex 26-01-2014 12:10 AM
Not a pleasant article was it ! and for someone that claims to be unimpressed by celebrity , Jim's saying that she wasn't famous sure seems to have scarred her hasn't it!..lol... anyway...She was a nobody to me before she went in the house...and now...i'm beginning to forget her already! :shrug:

Vanessa 26-01-2014 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 6662407)
How do you know? Were you in there, or going by what BB has shown everyone?
She got things wrong. Maybe she heard wrong, because she's deaf. Who knows? But she comes across as a snob to me.

Benjamin 26-01-2014 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 6662411)
She got things wrong. Maybe she heard wrong, because she's deaf. Who knows? But she comes across as a snob to me.
Yes and Jim comes across as a rude, sexist and underhanded moron to me and quiet a few others. We don't care for this every excuse under the sun from his fans to justify his behavior, it is how we perceive him, just like Liz perceives Jim and she was there first hand. So no, she is not wrong, you may not like nor agree with it, but that still doesn't make her wrong.

Vanessa 26-01-2014 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 6662416)
Yes and Jim comes across as a rude, sexist and underhanded moron to me and quiet a few others. We don't care for this every excuse under the sun from his fans to justify his behavior, it is how we perceive him, just like Liz perceives Jim and she was there first hand.
It just makes me wonder what else she got wrong in that article.

Benjamin 26-01-2014 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 6662419)
It just makes me wonder what else she got wrong in that article.
It also makes me wonder why some people are so blind to the fact that BB shows us only 45 minutes of footage from a 24 hour a day, and if people don't get by now they select footage very carefully to portray housemates in certain ways then there is no helping those people. Her article is stretched a bit for the papers, but the fact you have quite a few of the housemates who cannot stand Jim it really says something about him.

Amy Jade 26-01-2014 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 6662411)
She got things wrong. Maybe she heard wrong, because she's deaf. Who knows? But she comes across as a snob to me.
What things? the only one I see is the year Linda's husband passed away.

Pincho Paxton 26-01-2014 01:19 AM
Liz's article could have been written in a nicer way, and still got a lot of readers, maybe a better article for being nice. I think that a nasty article is her way of identifying readers, and making money, but I personally wanted a nice article. However some of her points are interesting.. the secrets...

Linda self harming.

Somebody taking pills, and alcohol.

Videostar 26-01-2014 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by StupidHoe (Post 6662206)
Confirming Linda self harmed because of Jim's disgusting behaviour.
If that really happened BB would have taken her out of the house, for good.

Pincho Paxton 26-01-2014 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Videostar (Post 6662484)
If that really happened BB would have taken her out of the house, for good.
Well whatever happened her wrists are nice a clean by the time she leaves.

Daniel. 26-01-2014 01:28 AM
A snob? She's probably one of the most insecure housemates we've ever had

The article was really nice I thought

Kizzy 26-01-2014 01:32 AM
Liz is a pragmatist, her literal interpretations of the HMs are raw and come from a mind uncluttered by celebby social etiquette.
Well done her, a great read.

* I invented the word celebby*

Seraphim 26-01-2014 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Daniel_ (Post 6662487)
A snob? She's probably one of the most insecure housemates we've ever had

The article was really nice I thought
Describing people as "stupid", "inane", "so-called intelligent" and saying that reality show viewers are "secretaries, supermarket till operatives and hair salon creatives" etc. is very intellectually snobby, and the article would have been nicer if she'd omitted that sort of thing.

Seraphim 26-01-2014 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6662490)
Liz is a pragmatist, her literal interpretations of the HMs are raw and come from a mind uncluttered by celebby social etiquette.
Well done her, a great read.

* I invented the word celebby*
:laugh:

I agree, but these are real people she is talking about, and it seems hurtful to describe them as "stupid" or "inane", especially when she herself hardly opened her mouth for the first two weeks. She has been equally "pragmatic" about friends, neighbours and other people she knows who are not celebs. Most of them are no longer talking to her. ;)

Kizzy 26-01-2014 02:01 AM
It was cathartic... it took you through how she felt during her experience, including her preconceptions and misconceptions.... It was wonderful, sympathetically written.
The public are till ops and hairdressers, and reality TV is escapism.... I don't see an issue with highlighting that fact.

Seraphim 26-01-2014 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6662502)
The public are till ops and hairdressers, and reality TV is escapism.... I don't see an issue with highlighting that fact.
Ho hum. I was giving some examples to someone who was wondering in what way the piece was snobby. I liked the piece too. No probs if you don't agree that by describing the viewers of reality shows as till ops and hairdressers, rather than doctors and lawyers she is displaying intellectual snobbery.

Videostar 26-01-2014 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6662490)
Liz is a pragmatist, her literal interpretations of the HMs are raw and come from a mind uncluttered by celebby social etiquette.
Well done her, a great read.

* I invented the word celebby*
She still lied on her evicted BOTS show, she claimed that she would never write an article about BB or the HM's.

So IMO that invalidates any and all of her opinions or claims as to what went on in the house, the woman is a joke now.

Kizzy 26-01-2014 02:47 AM
I'm sorry you feel that way, luckily she relented and wrote one.
Ho hum?.... Intellectual snobbery, for stating that the target demographic for MIC is secretaries, till ops and hairdressers (women 18-40s)
If you say so, I wouldn't overanalyse her intent too much.

MachoPoodle 26-01-2014 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 6662249)
True. Liz is biased anyway. She doesn't like Jim.
There is no such thing as personal objectivity. As soon as you have an opinion, you could be seen as biased one way or the other. Liz is no more biased than the Jim loving audience or any other Jim fans, so what's your point?

Jamesy 26-01-2014 10:04 AM
It's interesting she mentions the "long line of limos" at the launch night - just reminds me even more of the good old days when housemates would pull up and come out the limo! Kinda preferred that over the current entrances through the eye stage.

Seraphim 26-01-2014 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6662524)
I'm sorry you feel that way, luckily she relented and wrote one.
Ho hum?.... Intellectual snobbery, for stating that the target demographic for MIC is secretaries, till ops and hairdressers (women 18-40s)
If you say so, I wouldn't overanalyse her intent too much.
Here's what I wrote, just to make things clear:

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Originally Posted by Seraphim (Post 6662355)
It's a great article, but typical of Liz Jones. She really doesn't really understand that she might hurt people when she writes about them like that. She has fallen out with friends after writing about them, and she had to move house because of writing about all the locals. If she hadn't described the HMs as "stupid" it wouldn't have been bad, but it's snobbish to dismiss others and feel superior to them because of your intellect - everyone has something different to offer.
My opinion is as valid as Liz Jones', even though I don't write for the Daily Mail. ;)

I like Liz Jones - she's the only reason I watched CBB.. and she's one of the reasons I became a regular reader of the Mail Online. I'm addicted now, lol.

Verbal 26-01-2014 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by erinp5 (Post 6662027)
That is a great article. Something I have never said about the daily fail. Having 'real' people like her is how I would like to see the show moving forward. She was great.

Seraphim 26-01-2014 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Verbal (Post 6662889)
That is a great article. Something I have never said about the daily fail. Having 'real' people like her is how I would like to see the show moving forward. She was great.
As a regular reader of Liz Jones, I was rather glad to see the DM readers' opinion changing in Liz's favour during her time on the show. She was getting lots of positive feedback during her time in the house. It was funny to see below the BB article that most of the readers have reverted to their previous opinion, with the top rated comments being:

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"Liz I thought you said to your housemates you wouldn't write about you time in BB?.. Hypocrite!!!"
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"Awful woman. Only has the guts to make comment in print."
It looks as if Liz is back in the doghouse :laugh2:

Jemal 26-01-2014 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 6662405)
"Dappy, who was covered in so many tattoos I was driven to reading them all one evening, so desperate was I for a book, and who in a general knowledge test scored only six per cent, which embarrassed him hugely, proved himself a gentleman when for the third night in a row I was sat in the bedroom toilet, vomiting from the stress. He held my hair from my face, and rubbed my back, cooing all the while".

What a lovely guy.
Great lad

Verbal 26-01-2014 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Seraphim (Post 6662913)
As a regular reader of Liz Jones, I was rather glad to see the DM readers' opinion changing in Liz's favour during her time on the show. She was getting lots of positive feedback during her time in the house. It was funny to see below the BB article that most of the readers have reverted to their previous opinion, with the top rated comments being:





It looks as if Liz is back in the doghouse :laugh2:
The Daily Mail comments section is one of the most entertaining and trolled 'forums' on the internet. It is pretty scathing in parts, but in a witty way, good on her I say.

Benjamin 26-01-2014 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Videostar (Post 6662517)
She still lied on her evicted BOTS show, she claimed that she would never write an article about BB or the HM's.

So IMO that invalidates any and all of her opinions or claims as to what went on in the house, the woman is a joke now.
Just bitter because she slated your wife-beating favourite. :pat:

MTVN 26-01-2014 01:50 PM
What a pathetic woman

Seraphim 26-01-2014 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Verbal (Post 6662963)
The Daily Mail comments section is one of the most entertaining and trolled 'forums' on the internet. It is pretty scathing in parts, but in a witty way, good on her I say.
Yes.. I agree. I'm glad to hear that it's not only me who finds the DM comments section irresistible. hehehe

Z 26-01-2014 03:09 PM
That was a great read!


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