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Seraphim 31-01-2014 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 6679574)
Her behaviour was pretty vile though.
Not the most pleasant housemate so the booing was hardly suprising.
Which behaviour was vile?

Seraphim 31-01-2014 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 6679656)
her crass trashy abusive behaviour is a disgrace and an appalling example to her daughter

This is a complete joke coming from a Jim Davidson fan.

As for the rest.. you were obviously watching a different programme, because in the one I watched, Luisa had one argument with Dappy, then made friends and remained friends thereafter, saying that she liked Dappy. She frequently tried to mediate in difficulties between HMs, which you have unfortunately misinterpreted. All the housemates disliked Jim because he was winding Linda up, and over time, especially after the FC dressingroom incident, Luisa came to dislike Jim and feel more loyal to Linda, which was evident in her behaviour. After she saw things more objectively from the Kennel and Linda left, she didn't say she liked Jim.. she just decided to give him another chance, and Jim pulled out all the stops to lay on the charm so he'd win the competition.

Even when Luisa was given the opportunity to slate Jim in her campaign, she made a more jokey campaign against Lee. Unlike Jim who launched a nasty, spiteful, unfunny campaign against her looks. That is when he lost my vote.

the truth 31-01-2014 12:04 PM
as for this I or others here dont like powerful women, what a load of nonsense. iI just dont like luisa....looking at my tv schedule , with women everywhere...Im currently sky plusisng the wonderful alex polizzi on hotel inspector, in between melinda messenger getting cowboy builders sorted, kirsie allsop is another powerful lady who I think is brilliant, sur barker is the face of british tennis and she is quite brilliant....clare balding excellent....all good strong forthright people....their gender is irrelevant really....theyre just good at what they do and they do it with some degree of integrity, decency honest and respect...etc etc this is the tip of the iceberg... I employ women , I also emply a woman as a manager of one of my businesses and I act on everything she says even when she has a pop at me lol..Ive worked with 100s of women over the years and I do mean 100s and I guarantee all of them enjoyed working with me...I dont cross the line I dont provoke or insult people I get on with women...But i reserve the right to call a woman like luisa exactly what she is....women speak their minds , so can men...if someone is honest , decent , loyal , kind and hard working they get my seal of approval. I dont consider luisa any of these things. I plain dont like her at all.

daniel-lewis-1985 31-01-2014 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 6679656)
she name called dappy she name called jim she labelled them endlessly day after day wrongly. she also dragged dappys mother into the argument at the first opprtunity which then escalaated the situation. she carried gossip back and forth amongst people throughout the show, deliberately creating conflict and upset. which makes her preaching to lee even more hypocritical...she joined a group in singling out jim throughout and bullying him verbally....labelling him a sexist pg with zero evidence or justification for doing so...she played up to her gang of bullies with abusive nominations too....she also acted with others in ridiculing and mocking ollie with the attempt to humiliate him....clearly she was concerned he was becoming more popular than her. which it ended up he was. ....she went into the room with lionel and she stole stuff and defied all rules....lionel did not blame her for everything, she however tried to lay most blame on him, wrongly....she failed to accept her own responsibility for cheating....she screamed and abused an 82 year old, no doubt partly because he was a man.....she also demanded equal rights yet she then went mad when a man dared treating her the same way....what a complete hypocrite.....additonally she then changed spots when linda went and admitted she had no reason to label jim sexist and had no evidence at all....

she admitted it was probably to do with linda and the group, so she is not only a group bully but also a spineless coward too.....just as she left she changed spots again going back to being a person who doesnt give a s%it about anyone...greta philosophy...her interview was shallow mean spirited and plain pathetic.


she is a sexist man hating bully. a vile attention seeker, whose claims to be a serious business person ended a long time ago. her crass trashy abusive behaviour is a disgrace and an appalling example to her daughter
:joker:

Im pretty sure Luisa is a BIG fan of men. One of her closest friends was Dappy and Dappy admitted to liking Luisa but still nominated her.

Theres so much in this post which is total opposite of what we actually saw, its very biased, lets people off the hook for age or sex and turns everything on Luisa. Its just hilarious to read but everyone is entitled to their opinion wether or not its one that most people would not agree with.

the truth 31-01-2014 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Seraphim (Post 6679707)
This is a complete joke coming from a Jim Davidson fan.

As for the rest.. you were obviously watching a different programme, because in the one I watched, Luisa had one argument with Dappy, then made friends and remained friends thereafter, saying that she liked Dappy. She frequently tried to mediate in difficulties between HMs, which you have unfortunately misinterpreted. All the housemates disliked Jim because he was winding Linda up, and over time, especially after the FC dressingroom, Luisa came to dislike Jim and feel more loyal to Linda, which was evident in her behaviour. After she saw things more objectively from the Kennel and Linda left, she didn't say she liked Jim.. she just decided to give him another chance, and Jim pulled out all the stops to lay on the charm so he'd win the competition.

Even when Luisa was given the opportunity to slate Jim in her campaign, she made a more jokey campaign against Lee. Unlike Jim who launched a nasty, spiteful, unfunny campaign against her looks. That is when he lost my vote.
100% wrong. she insulted and attacked jimbo from even before they entered the house, then she continued bullying her mercilessly almost 24 hours a day. everyone can see that.luisa only admitted to part of it after linda had gone. she showed herself up to be a spineless bully. as for mediating you need to rewatch she was deliberately carrying gossip and everytime she "mediated" the situation became much much worse. she did this hatchet job several times. she says she gives it and cantake it. well imbo gave it back and guess what she couldnt take it....neither could linda.....nor liz.....no man should swear at a woman? yeah right after being abused and bullied and slandered and sworn at all day every day for over 3 weeks...a man doesnt have a right of reply. everyone has a right to an opinion but luisa went out of her way to hurt and slander peoiple and create conflict. you have totlaly misunderstood who she is and what her intentions were in the show

the truth 31-01-2014 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 6679724)
:joker:

Im pretty sure Luisa is a BIG fan of men. One of her closest friends was Dappy and Dappy admitted to liking Luisa but still nominated her.

Theres so much in this post which is total opposite of what we actually saw, its very biased, lets people off the hook for age or sex and turns everything on Luisa. Its just hilarious to read but everyone is entitled to their opinion wether or not its one that most people would not agree with.
not as hilarious as your endless anti hetro men posts over the months:joker:

Seraphim 31-01-2014 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 6679724)
:joker:

Im pretty sure Luisa is a BIG fan of men. One of her closest friends was Dappy and Dappy admitted to liking Luisa but still nominated her.

Theres so much in this post which is total opposite of what we actually saw, its very biased, lets people off the hook for age or sex and turns everything on Luisa. Its just hilarious to read but everyone is entitled to their opinion wether or not its one that most people would not agree with.
:thumbs:

Great post.

Beso 31-01-2014 12:13 PM
the crowd weren't boing her for being a **** housemate, they were boing her for the type of housemate she was.

she should be well chuffed.

daniel-lewis-1985 31-01-2014 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 6679726)
not as hilarious as your endless anti hetro men posts over the months:joker:
:joker:

Please find evidence of this, every thread you post in 99% of the time sexism comes into it. I really don't get it.

I love straight men, LOVE THEM! I would never ever go out with a camp guy and every bf ive had has slept with woman or been in the army or a bouncer, so only 3 bf's but still lol.

But enough about me lets get back on topic.

Beso 31-01-2014 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 6679733)
:joker:

Please find evidence of this.
you called me a shirt straightener once.

daniel-lewis-1985 31-01-2014 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 6679734)
you called me a shirt straightener once.
HUH? That's a joke right?

Seraphim 31-01-2014 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 6679726)
not as hilarious as your endless anti hetro men posts over the months:joker:
It's easy to see now why you are a fan of Jim.

Beso 31-01-2014 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 6679736)
HUH? That's a joke right?
:whistle:

daniel-lewis-1985 31-01-2014 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 6679740)
:whistle:
I didn't even know that was a term lol.

Seraphim 31-01-2014 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 6679732)
the crowd weren't boing her for being a **** housemate, they were boing her for the type of housemate she was.

she should be well chuffed.
She should be well chuffed that she emerged to mainly cheers.

The strongest disapproval of Luisa I read here and elsewhere was of the fact that she admitted to going to sex parties.

It was interesting that no-one batted an eyelid here and elsewhere when Jim said he'd gone to more sex parties than Luisa.

the truth 31-01-2014 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Seraphim (Post 6679745)
She should be well chuffed that she emerged to mainly cheers.

The strongest disapproval of Luisa I read here and elsewhere was of the fact that she admitted to going to sex parties.

It was interesting that no-one batted an eyelid here and elsewhere when Jim said he'd gone to more sex parties than Luisa.
I didnt mention the sex parties. though I personally wouldnt shag 5 people in one night, I think thats disgusting regardless if its jim or luisa doing it

the truth 31-01-2014 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 6679733)
:joker:

Please find evidence of this, every thread you post in 99% of the time sexism comes into it. I really don't get it.

I love straight men, LOVE THEM! I would never ever go out with a camp guy and every bf ive had has slept with woman or been in the army or a bouncer, so only 3 bf's but still lol.

But enough about me lets get back on topic.
your track record on here is plenty of proof enough, I suggest you re read your own threads lol Id rather not....pro women anti hetro men is the pattern 99% of the time and the rest of the time you provoke others to dleiberately try and get people infracted, pathetic.

Seraphim 31-01-2014 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 6679721)
as for this I or others here dont like powerful women, what a load of nonsense. iI just dont like luisa....looking at my tv schedule , with women everywhere...Im currently sky plusisng the wonderful alex polizzi on hotel inspector, in between melinda messenger getting cowboy builders sorted, kirsie allsop is another powerful lady who I think is brilliant, sur barker is the face of british tennis and she is quite brilliant....clare balding excellent....all good strong forthright people....their gender is irrelevant really....theyre just good at what they do and they do it with some degree of integrity, decency honest and respect...etc etc this is the tip of the iceberg... I employ women , I also emply a woman as a manager of one of my businesses and I act on everything she says even when she has a pop at me lol..Ive worked with 100s of women over the years and I do mean 100s and I guarantee all of them enjoyed working with me...I dont cross the line I dont provoke or insult people I get on with women...But i reserve the right to call a woman like luisa exactly what she is....women speak their minds , so can men...if someone is honest , decent , loyal , kind and hard working they get my seal of approval. I dont consider luisa any of these things. I plain dont like her at all.
You're entitled to your opinion, but if you give skewed, unjust or prejudicial reasons for that opinion, then people are going to point that out.

You cannot compare people's behaviour on serious TV programmes and in a business setting with anyone's behaviour once they've had a few drinks in the BB house.

You cannot pigeonhole and stereotype women and impose your own expectations on them according to your narrow view of how they should behave. As a society we choose to define what we consider to be acceptable behaviour, and nothing Luisa did or has ever done, to my knowledge, broke any laws.

the truth 31-01-2014 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Seraphim (Post 6679755)
You're entitled to your opinion, but if you give skewed, unjust or prejudicial reasons for that opinion, then people are going to point that out.

You cannot compare people's behaviour on serious TV programmes and in a business setting with anyone's behaviour once they've had a few drinks in the BB house.

You cannot pigeonhole and stereotype women and impose your own expectations on them according to your narrow view of how they should behave. As a society we choose to define what we consider to be acceptable behaviour, and nothing Luisa did or has ever done, to my knowledge, broke any laws.
I can do what I like and I havent pigeon holed antone, thats a total false allegation. were not talking about laws....theres far more to life and behaviour than laws? what an absurd way to measure people behaviour. she s ahorrible person. regardless of gender.

daniel-lewis-1985 31-01-2014 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 6679749)
your track record on here is plenty of proof enough, I suggest you re read your own threads lol Id rather not....pro women anti hetro men is the pattern 99% of the time and the rest of the time you provoke others to dleiberately try and get people infracted, pathetic.
Not true and please stop these allegations now its totally untrue and plain boring.

I give examples of how im not a hetrophobe and they get ignored and just another insult is thrown back instead. Mods infract people for their behaviour so everyone is responsible for their own posts and opinions and should not be blamed on another forum member.

Who turned this thread into yet another debate of sexism and personal insults? Not me.

Im so sick of people thinking forum members judge the housemates on their sex, sexuality, age or race. Im pretty sure we judge on the person wether they have a ovaries or a ball bag.

I have never posted a "Why is it ok for a man to do this but not a woman" thread as yours are mostly but in reverse order.

Seraphim 31-01-2014 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 6679761)
I can do what I like and I havent pigeon holed antone, thats a total false allegation. were not talking about laws....theres far more to life and behaviour than laws? what an absurd way to measure people behaviour. she s ahorrible person. regardless of gender.
What I meant by pigeon-holing is that you have a tight little mould of how you think women should behave. If you think that Sue Barker, Kirstie Allsop or Alex Polizzi would have let Jim Davidson , Dappy or Lionel Blair off the hook in similar circumstances then you're barking mad.

To judge from your offensive treatment of Daniel above, you have an equally tight little mould of how you think men should behave.

daniel-lewis-1985 31-01-2014 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Seraphim (Post 6679766)
What I meant by pigeon-holing is that you have a tight little mould of how you think women should behave. If you think that Sue Barker, Kirstie Allsop or Alex Polizzi would have let Jim Davidson , Dappy or Lionel Blair off the hook in similar circumstances then you're barking mad.

To judge from your offensive treatment of Daniel above, you have an equally tight little mould of how you think men should behave.
Exactly.

:spin:

Seraphim 31-01-2014 12:57 PM
I like you Daniel-Lewis-1985. You're fair, open-minded and generous spirited.

daniel-lewis-1985 31-01-2014 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Seraphim (Post 6679781)
I like you Daniel-Lewis-1985. You're fair, open-minded and generous spirited.
Likewise, its nice to see a poster who responds with examples on both sides of an argument not be so black and white nor list of a load of abusive allegations against a housemate.

Theres more truth in The Daily Star than some other comments on here.

Arrow 31-01-2014 01:39 PM
Louisa deserved to get booed would of been first evicted if it was not for' friendship' established befor she entered the house she was fake and transparent

claimed half the house were game players yet was the biggest one in there she hated it if others where getting camera her biggest problem is her ego

the truth 31-01-2014 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Seraphim (Post 6679766)
What I meant by pigeon-holing is that you have a tight little mould of how you think women should behave. If you think that Sue Barker, Kirstie Allsop or Alex Polizzi would have let Jim Davidson , Dappy or Lionel Blair off the hook in similar circumstances then you're barking mad.

To judge from your offensive treatment of Daniel above, you have an equally tight little mould of how you think men should behave.
utter nonsense. Youre guilty of reverse sexism now

Seraphim 31-01-2014 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 6679843)
utter nonsense. Youre guilty of reverse sexism now
Why is that? You have never told me which sex you are, and it makes no difference to me or any of the comments I've made.

the truth 31-01-2014 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Arrow (Post 6679823)
Louisa deserved to get booed would of been first evicted if it was not for' friendship' established befor she entered the house she was fake and transparent

claimed half the house were game players yet was the biggest one in there she hated it if others where getting camera her biggest problem is her ego
agreed she was horrific. but according to these other posters Im not allowed to say that and theyre playing the feminist card yet again , saying somehow I am offending and pigeon holing all women on the planet :joker:because I think luisa is revolting? lol you couldnt make this nonsense up.

the truth 31-01-2014 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Seraphim (Post 6679844)
Why is that? You have never told me which sex you are, and it makes no difference to me or any of the comments I've made.
because youre accusing me of pigeon holing ALL women just because I dont like your hero lusia, that is reverse sexism to imply and falsely labely someone as somehow anti women just because they dont like an individual as vile as luisa

Seraphim 31-01-2014 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Arrow (Post 6679823)
Louisa deserved to get booed would of been first evicted if it was not for' friendship' established befor she entered the house she was fake and transparent

claimed half the house were game players yet was the biggest one in there she hated it if others where getting camera her biggest problem is her ego
I agree that she has a big ego, and that it's a problem, but are you saying it's bigger than any of the other finalists??? :laugh2:

the truth 31-01-2014 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Seraphim (Post 6679850)
I agree that she has a big ego, and that it's a problem, but are you saying it's bigger than any of the other finalists??? :laugh2:
of course it was. she even said dappy was somehow beneath her and she couldnt discuss things with someone so much less intelligent
she endlessly complained how all the other housemates thought they were bigshots and they werent. yet no one over rated her own talents more than luisa. shes not even a celebrity.....evander was the 4 time heavyweight champion of the world....a man who had spent nearly 50 years of his life working trainging perfecting his skills in endless wars to become the best of the best. that deserves respect. jim 30 years entertaining and making people laugh. lee a member of a top boy band for years selling millions of records and entertaining millions more.....the nolans were a big band and had years at the top, dappy and ndubz are very popular , not my cup of team, but she showed no respect at all for people who had worked hard for many many years to achieve what they did.

Arrow 31-01-2014 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Seraphim (Post 6679850)
I agree that she has a big ego, and that it's a problem, but are you saying it's bigger than any of the other finalists??? :laugh2:
yes


she only said sorry to ollie after casey told her to having to egg her on to actuality do it then it wasent a sorry she just tried to justify her actions and put part of the blame on him


Did she ever say sorry to jim? did she ever thank jim?
refused to take the blame for the way she treated jim decided it was more convenient to throw linda under the bus and blame her

She only said sorry to dappy after he offered her the olive branch
felt she could talk to other people like **** but how dare they tell her some home truths


She is very quick to point out someone's flaws but wont accept any of hers

daniel-lewis-1985 31-01-2014 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 6679843)
utter nonsense. Youre guilty of reverse sexism now
Reverse Sexism doesn't exist.

If you saw both sexes as equal it should simply be called "sexism" but you don't.

the truth 31-01-2014 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 6679872)
Reverse Sexism doesn't exist.

If you saw both sexes as equal it should simply be called "sexism" but you don't.
yes it does. youre just in denial

daniel-lewis-1985 31-01-2014 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 6679883)
yes it does. youre just in denial
LOL sexism should just be that, SEXISM. No reverse put infront of it. If you truly thought both sexes were equal then it shouldn't be labelled differently.

Its just like when people call 2 men getting married a "gay marriage" why isn't it just a marriage?

A person who refers to something which is the same action in a different way is the person who is the sexist, the homophobe or any other "ism" you care to throw out there if its being discussed in a serious manner as you are.

That person or group have a superiority complex hence them needing to label things and pigeon whole certain groups as different.

Wether they know they are doing it or not it IS pigeon holing a group of individuals.

Seraphim 31-01-2014 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 6679848)
because youre accusing me of pigeon holing ALL women just because I dont like your hero lusia, that is reverse sexism to imply and falsely labely someone as somehow anti women just because they dont like an individual as vile as luisa
I didn't accuse you of sexism or of being anti-women. I said you have a narrow idea of how a woman should behave because of everything you said in your post 43 in this thread.

At the end of your post you said that you expect women to be:

"honest , decent , loyal , kind and hard working".

Yet you are a fan of Jim Davidson, whose behaviour and remarks to Casey were inappropriate, given that his 5th wife was watching. His 4th marriage ended because of his affair with Debbie Corrigan. He wasn't honest when he denied bringing up Frank Carson's dressing room. His previous behaviour included bragging and joking about giving his wife black eyes in his autobiography. Here's a recent article I read about him:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...duced-her.html

Jim is far from perfect.

I have been accused on this forum countless times of being a "Jim fan" because I can be objective and comment on good things about him. I don't want to criticise anyone, but I am pointing out a certain anomaly between what you expect from women, and what you accept in men.

the truth 31-01-2014 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Seraphim (Post 6679904)
I didn't accuse you of sexism or of being anti-women. I said you have a narrow idea of how a woman should behave because of everything you said in your post 43 in this thread.

At the end of your post you said that you expect women to be:

"honest , decent , loyal , kind and hard working".

Yet you are a fan of Jim Davidson, whose behaviour and remarks to Casey were inappropriate, given that his 5th wife was watching. His 4th marriage ended because of his affair with Debbie Corrigan. He wasn't honest when he denied bringing up Frank Carson's dressing room. His previous behaviour included bragging and joking about giving his wife black eyes in his autobiography. Here's a recent article I read about him:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...duced-her.html

Jim is far from perfect.

I have been accused on this forum countless times of being a "Jim fan" because I can be objective and comment on good things about him. I don't want to criticise anyone, but I am pointing out a certain anomaly between what you expect from women, and what you accept in men.

youre living in the dark ages

comics these days do make double entendres, riske jokes and those with humour know its just a joke....also mens rights have evolved since the 1990s men are allowed to verbally stick up for themselves now and fight fire with fire
women are now tough enough to take the verbals they give out too....except luisa is decades behind the times, she thinks she can hide behind the fact she has a fufu to dish out bullying abuse....she cant she needs to catch up with mens rights

sassysocks 01-02-2014 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 6674926)
Shes been epic....So entertaining, I literally think its really greedy and ungrateful to love watching her and being entertained by her as reflected in all the polls yet turn up and boo her.

Basically chew her up, spit her out.

Is it me aswell or does the crowd seem smaller tonight? Not that that's a bad thing lol.

Please no "OFF OFF OFF's"
Silly brainless girls who don't have the brain cells to realise by hating on a woman for being brave enough to stand up to the sexist sterotypes still rife in today's society - they only condone and reinforce an attitude and behaviour that will one day have a negative impact on their own lives.

Sexism affects all women, including them, they don't seem to understand that. Bunch of idiots. Give me a brazen woman like Luisa to a bunch of weak conditioned robots like the females in that audience.

Seraphim 01-02-2014 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by sassysocks (Post 6682382)
Silly brainless girls who don't have the brain cells to realise by hating on a woman for being brave enough to stand up to the sexist sterotypes still rife in today's society - they only condone and reinforce an attitude and behaviour that will one day have a negative impact on their own lives.

Sexism affects all women, including them, they don't seem to understand that. Bunch of idiots. Give me a brazen woman like Luisa to a bunch of weak conditioned robots like the females in that audience.
:worship:

sassysocks 01-02-2014 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Seraphim (Post 6682388)
:worship:

What is it they say - great minds think alike.

Seriously though, in this day and age I cannot fathom why so many young girls who benefit from the 'freedoms' they have today, denied women previously, seemingly despise, strong, independent women. All many seem to want to do is 'fit in' and seek approval and popularity with men by conforming to sexual double standards. I think what they really despite is their own lack of confidence and their weakness leading to jealousy of women who do have the backbone.

People should stop worrying about the sexual behaviour of consenting adults regardless of their gender - it should be irrelevant, and just concern themselves with their own personal values.


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