Think so too

Yeah so far the investigation has been bungled so many times that I think he's going to get off due to a lack of evidence... which is bull****. Who shoots at their bathroom door four times without thinking to ask who's there? I think he killed her in cold blood. It just does not make sense.

I agree,it would surprise me if he was found guilty. I feel sure you will be proven right lostalex.

Well this is his version of events here: http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/p...133133080.html

- There were no burglar bars across the bathroom window and I knew contractors who worked at my house had left the ladders outside. Although I did not have my prosthetics legs on, I have mobility on my stumps.

- I believed someone had entered my house. I was too scared to switch a light on. I grabbed my 9 mm pistol from underneath my bed.

- On my way to the bathroom I screamed words to the effect for him/them to get out of my house and for Reeva to phone the police. It was pitch dark in the bedroom and I thought Reeva was in bed.

- I noticed that the bathroom window was open. I realised that the intruder/s was/were in the toilet because the toilet door was closed and I did not see anyone in the bathroom. I heard movement inside the toilet. The toilet is inside the bathroom and has a separate door.

- It filled me with horror and fear of an intruder or intruders being inside the toilet. I thought he or they must have entered through the unprotected window.

- As I did not have my prosthetic legs on and felt extremely vulnerable, I knew I had to protect Reeva and myself.

- I believed that when the intruder/s came out of the toilet, we would be in grave danger. I felt trapped as my bedroom door was locked and I have limited mobility on my stumps.

- I fired shots at the toilet door and shouted to Reeva to call the police. She did not respond and I moved backwards out of the bathroom, keeping my eyes on the bathroom entrance.

so how does he explain his past history of domestic abuse, and the fact that he'd been arguing with Reeva earlier? or does he deny that. There is plenty of evidence that actually he had abused and beat Reeva many times before this night.


and does he still act like he was just a normal happy guy in a happy relationship? There are multiple witnesses that saw him being angry and abusive towards her.

He has a history of this kind of behavior. He reminds me of Robert Blake and Phil Spector.

This is why it's important to tell all women in an abusive relationship, it only get's worse! don't think that it get's better, it never get's better.

Any woman on this forum who is in an abusive relationship, this is how it ends., get out now.

Anyone else watching this on Sky Sports 2?

So many witnesses saying they heard shouting before the gunshots.

Sky Sports 2? :suspect: what are they showing about it

Just the days events, have seen some of the witness statements and now they are just talking about it.

I could not agree more with this especially the last part about getting out.

..I just think he's going to be found not guilty because his defence is plausible..I'm not saying I think that's what happened but just that it is possible so therefore leaves an element of doubt and I think that it was more or less going to be that way on a murder charge as opposed to manslaughter, because surely he would have to have a prison sentence for that...

he also got out of bed on his stumps now I don't know must about it, but I'd imagine it would be a slower process traversing the bedroom to get out, so why at any point did he not check that Reeva was in bed? and if he did think someone was in the bathroom, wouldn't your first instinct be to call out to Reeva to get up, or get out, not just leave her lying in bed oblivious, just doesn't add up to me.

Reevas Mum was interviewed by ITV yesterday and she said he still hasn't looked her in the eyes, why not if he is innocent?

I think we need to address misogyny in professional sports.

We talk about homophobia in professional sports a lot recently, because pif the coming out of many players recently, but what about also addressing misogyny in professional sports?

I think the hyper-masculine/macho culture of professional sports (and also amateur/highschool/college sports) is very misogynistic as well as homophobic, i think the 2 issues are related.

The idea of athletes as Greek Gods that surely must be worshipped for their hyper-masculinity.

Do you think his defense is plausible? God, I think his defense is awful and completely unbelievable

He screams like a woman when he is anxious...but Reeva did not hear him and say it was her that was in the toilet.
He felt vulnerable because the bedroom done wAs locked:conf: yet he managed to walk down the passage to the bathroom.
He could easily have woke Reeva and unlocked the door, gun in hand.
He could even have tried ringing security..

..I think it's plausible the way it seems to be being presented and I also can't understand why it was never manslaughter because surely he would have to be given a prison sentence with that..maybe not such a long one..(..I don't know what SA law is..)...but with a murder charge he could be found innocent...

he could be found innocent isn't a good enough reason not to make it a murder charge imo, he shot her through a locked door, that's cold blooded and cruel and she deserves proper justice imo

Not sure how he's going to get away with this. He's definitely going to need a good stump speech.

No I do not think it will be fair. Its the same as most other high profile cases. The jury is biased before going in because of the media stuff..most people have made up their minds one way or the other before even seeing any evidence, etc etc

I do think that papers should be kinda gagged in some cases tbh. To ensure fair trials. Yeah bring everything out afterwards, and do light reporting at the time, but to divulge every detail of cases (and in many instances make stuff up too, depending which side the papers on) should be seen as perversion of justice..surely?

..I'm just not sure that she or her family will get it though tbh, I still think that his defence will present a good 'reasonable doubt' case and he'll be found innocent...

...:laugh:..there isn't really any reply to that, I think the 'hasn't got s leg to stand on' one has already been used...

Quite possible, I guess it's a shame that it has to be one thing or another in cases like this, that the evidence couldn't be put forward and the defense given and then let the jury decide whether they think he's guilty of murder or manslaughter or innocent of both

Well if he does get away with it, then I'm sure he'll go out afterwards for celebratory drinks, and get totally.....





























Hammered.

..I reckon he wouldn't be able to stand a round anyway...(ok, this is serious debates...I'm stopping now...)...

They dont actually have a jury in South African courts, its completely in the hands of the judge who in this case is one of the few female judges and has spoken about the need to do more to protect woman from domestic violence and imposed tough sentences on male abusers

Good luck Oscar

Ahh right. I thought it was the same as us.

My point still stands for other cases then :laugh:

I dont know enough about this case to form an opinion really. Though I have literally just heard on the news that he randomly shot a gun in a restaurant a month or so before the incident :S

That's good to know

He must have been really desparate for the toilet...............

One good witness and his defence will be totally cut off at the knees.

He is certainly in a very sticky situation !!!


Sorry - that belongs in the other thread

I think he's guilty and I sincerely, sincerely hope the judge sends him to jail for a long time.

Roses are Red,
Violets are glorious,
Don't ever creep up,
On Oscar Pistorius

No juries in SA just a Judge and two other people not sure what their role is. Oh sorry just seen MTVNs post.

Denied early release :hee:

Yes the Family
are pleased his early release was stopped.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-65141013

Good

tbh he never had a leg to stand on with the release

Oscar Pistorius: will one of most hyped murder trials in history be fair?
 

There’s only two live court cases that had me completely transfixed.. the OscarP one and the Gwyneth Paltrow case that concluded last night


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OJ Simpson was a fascinating trial to watch....followed by Oscar P..

All I recall about that case was the LIVE Action car chase and the I’ll fitting ‘glove’


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We found it intriguing from start to finish…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-65141013

Oscar Pistorius's bid for parole collapsed in South Africa after it was revealed he had not yet served enough time to qualify for early release.
The 36-year-old former Paralympian is serving 13 years for the murder of his girlfriend, Reeva Steenkamp, in 2013.
………embarrassed officials admitted their timings had been wrong.
Earlier this week, they had received, but ignored, a letter from South Africa's top appeals court, which explained that Pistorius needed to spend another year and a half in prison before he could be considered for parole.
………..
I hope he still isn't released when his parole is next considered. 13 years isn’t nearly enough for what he did...