LOL. I had that problem with norton too a while back :laugh: It never leaves

Yeah you don't need to run malwarebytes constantly btw just use it to scan every week or so

Stuarts parents are the same, I tell them don't download anything you aren't sure of then next time I go on theres all sorts of speed booosters and crap like that, his dad will say 'oh that flashed up on the screen saying click here to boodt performance on your pc so I clicked it' :facepalm:

Wouldn't use that if it was the only thing available tbh.

"Macs don't get viruses" is a complete myth, by the way. It used to be somewhat true, mainly because 90%+ of computer users were on Windows PCs so no one bothered to actually MAKE viruses targetted at Macs, but in recent history it's far from true. The opposite is true. Since Vista, Windows has had mandatory user account controls (those little pop ups that appear whenever you try to install something) and programs have digital "signatures" certifying them as genuine, so basic malware has a tough time getting onto even an unprotected windows PC.

OSX still doesn't feature this, and malware can sneak onto a mac "silently". Mac viruses have also become much more common because laptop use has increased significantly, and mac laptop owners tend to have:

- less technical knowledge than PC laptop owners,
- probably more money, because the things are wildly overpriced.

Those combine into a massive juicy target for someone looking to hijack some bank details. Mac viruses are much more common these days.

MS Security Essentials isn't as good as it once was. Avast is widely regarded as superior when it comes to a free anti virus program.

MS defended it at one point, yet have given up themselves.

Yeah Microsoft even admitted last year that it was bottom rung stuff and you should never use it alone without another antivirus.

It's literally the ONLY virus protection that isn't pointless bloatware.

I personally go bareback on my main PC. No AV at all since 2007 :D

See above.

Not that I would ever use it anyway but when the software creators admit it themselves then it's got to be awful eh.

It's scaremongering. You don't need antivirus at all unless you're being reckless.

Hmm I would disagree with not needing one at all.

And tbh most people are very wreckless online these days anyway

glad my thread was useful

now click my SPOILER :devil:

If you get a dodgy email attachment....open it please.


















only joking

I know the whole Mac's don't get viruses thing is a load of tosh, just poking fun.

But that point is completely baseless. Not exactly a representation of everybody, but it's very much the opposite with the people I know, with the PC users having no desire to spend time learning how to use a different type of system when they only require Word and Internet Explorer.

True but since 2007 (introduction of windows Vista and user account control) it is almost impossible to install malicious software by accident. AV also warns you about phishing sites, yes, but you'd have to be an actual idiot to fall for a phishing scam in the first place. I have very little sympathy for people who log in to "fcaebook.com", give them their credit card details, and then wonder why it's being used in Morocco.

I've even just done the unthinkable, and installed Malwarebytes on my precious PC to prove a point.

- This installation of Windows 7 has been running almost 24/7 since January 2013.

- I have had NO antivirus or anti malware software on it at any point

- I do torrent / install "potentially hazardous" files. Often.

- I've been known to dabble on Tor


It's scaremongering.

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only joking [/QUOTE]

You've been to the deep web, Toy Soldier? And you returned unscathed? :p

Edit: I'm assuming there that with you having used Tor that you entered the deep web.

Anyone with any technical knowledge who would willingly spend £1200 on an i5 laptop with a 13" screen is either completely mental, or has far too much money burning a hole in their pocket :D.

TOR is a completely safe browser though anyway not sure why that would be relevant to proving your point :think:

For the last couple of years, the deep web has included most bog standard torrent sites :joker:. That's the real online threat we should be looking at. ISP censorship :/.

Tor isn't the deep web btw it's just one of the browsers used to get there..

We have went way off topic here haven't we :laugh:

Because half of the sites you "need" to use Tor to access would be red-flagged by most AV programs. They also have a nasty habit of "quarantining" perfectly legitimate (and necessary) files...

To be fair, I'm not saying there's any real harm in most people using AV software, other than that it'll noticeably slow down any laptop with less than an i3 for no good reason. I'm just pointing out that there's no reason for people to worry, and CERTAINLY no reason for people to be panic-scammed into paying for "professional" AV or the premium versions of the free ones (which are constantly ad-spammed by the programs themselves).

I'd just rather not have to worry about AVG constantly soft-deleting my DaemonTools :bawling:

that ok i don't mind

as long as my thread cause widespread panic i am happy :laugh::laugh::laugh:

I've seen some of the basics of it on Youtube and from people's opinions. The basics alone seemed, let's say ':umm2:' sums things up well.

There's a site where people grab pictures of naked pictures of girls (of the legal age, I think anyway :umm2:) to then try and find their addresses and other details and swap with other perverts. :umm2:

Think it might be a read only site now, but at one time it was a fully functioning pervert's wet dream.

I agree with you this is a big panic for nothing, to hear the way the news was going on earlier you would have thought there was going to be an alien invasion 'two weeks to prepare for the attack' jeezo :laugh:

And I know exactly how you feel I'm always to rescue daemontools from the virus vault :fist:

Weeell that's not technically accurate... Tor is the free-to-use, crowd maintained proxy / relay network that allows you to browse completely anonymously. There are a couple of different specially configured browsers that allow you to access Tor. I think there are also things like phone apps these days too... though I have no idea why anyone would need Tor on their phone! Maybe just for the paranoid folks who want 100% anonymity. OR ARE THEY PARANOID? :shocked:

Well... remember "the millennium bug"? What a let down that was! I was expecting planes falling from the sky, life support systems imploding, sea creatures rising up from the deep to take advantage of the tech blackout window and finally conquer the land-dwellers...

Gutted.

OK downloaded avast...do I need to keep malwarebytes? Just this comp is slow as **** until I get a harddrive to put all my stuff on :laugh:

Or is a creative ;) I need mine for Logic Pro.

Definitely keep it.

Your PC might be slow due to programs starting up when Windows starts up.

The problem with viruses like this is your not meant to open emails. but the emails will most likely be from people you know and trust ithout their knowlege .
no anti virus will save you if you click anything or something thats attahed to a website or soemething. its like stepping on a mine lol

malawarebyes is great but its more of a killer of the problems after the fact than a prevention. best to have it on the pc .but thoug this virus it sounds like it just shuts you down by the sound of it there doesn't seem a way around it.

they can have my money but touch my music will be hell

My Full Norton and malwarebytes keeps me safe

and dont forget your smartphones

this is odd i got a email claiming to be from digiguide in the title is say you have received a reply to your thread or something like that so i deleted it without clicking on it and when to see what the reply was and there was no reply :fist::fist::fist::fist: :fist::fist::fist::fist:

My laptop doesnt need virus protection, its built in, so I guess I'll be alright aha because i can't download software on mine, it's a chromebook <3

you should be ok if it bulit in your no for sure in 13 days

I love how they think hackers would wait two weeks even after they had broken the news.

:omg: your might have a point there time to put plan A in to action in SPOILER incase the hackers are viewing thread

reports today that some torrent site are being use to make people give out bank detail ie kickass when you click the box to type in what youy want to dowload it open up a pages nprmal some thing like 888.com but this time it open up a fake police Notifications saying your ip addess has been ban and it lock you laptop computer if this happen swich off and go back to the time yopu device was working right dont pay the £100.and dont be scraed of it

:joker:

Where did you see this?