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Marsh. 11-06-2014 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Me. I Am Salman (Post 6926862)
As in you seem to be on Helen's side

Well then you've misunderstood because I'm not.

I'm not justifying or liking her comment about religion, I was just pointing out that by feigning her religious morals Danielle is just as bad if not worse IMO. She's an all out fake.

Lozzibear 11-06-2014 12:20 AM

I agree... didn't she also say something about going/wanting to punch her...

johllllll 11-06-2014 12:45 AM

I think everyone is forgetting danielle's attitude throughout this whole show. She clearly favours massive oppression of women. "you have to be lady like", just one of many examples. Why is a women not aloud to talk about sex, a perfectly natural thing yet a lad can. People like her are stopping this world from evolving into a completely equal and free society. It takes people like helen to give narrow minded, brainwashed individuals a kick up the arse.

Having a religious view is a free choice but when using it as opression or influencing other people is wrong on many levels

Mick McMick 11-06-2014 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Me. I Am Salman (Post 6926772)
well this is (or was) a Christian country, it's not like oppression against Christians/Catholics etc is a major issue in Britain. whilst it's not right, you can sort of understand why people would take more offence at a similar comment say to a Muslim as islamophobia is a very real problem in the UK today, usually associated with the absolute scum of society. I doubt Helen is anti-Christian :shrug:

Maybe not in the UK, but Christians are being murdered for their beliefs all across the world at an ever-increasing rate.

Ammi 11-06-2014 03:51 AM

..hmmm, but we don't really know what Danielle's beliefs are, surely..?..because she appears to be using whatever they are as a gameplay and not even a very good one either...she's 'offended' at swearing etc and isn't used to being around it and then in a complete reverse she's joining in with the very best of them/within the blink of an eye..

..whether I was someone who agreed with what she believed in or not, it doesn't matter because she was someone who I thought potentially was going to be a very interesting and complex housemate but I don't think she is ..her game play is very transparent and using 'religion' herself, to me makes her the 'insulting' one because she really makes a complete mockery of genuine beliefs..so many people and even on this forum, scorn and ridicule religion and beliefs and she really has done no favours at all and just makes it look complete hypocrisy... I'm certainly no Helen fan but I think that Danielle is also very much the 'offender' here...

Vanessa 11-06-2014 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 6926986)
..hmmm, but we don't really know what Danielle's beliefs are, surely..?..because she appears to be using whatever they are as a gameplay and not even a very good one either...she's 'offended' at swearing etc and isn't used to being around it and then in a complete reverse she's joining in with the very best of them/within the blink of an eye..

..whether I was someone who agreed with what she believed in or not, it doesn't matter because she was someone who I thought potentially was going to be a very interesting and complex housemate but I don't think she is ..her game play is very transparent and using 'religion' herself, to me makes her the 'insulting' one because she really makes a complete mockery of genuine beliefs..so many people and even on this forum, scorn and ridicule religion and beliefs and she really has done no favours at all and just makes it look complete hypocrisy... I'm certainly no Helen fan but I think that Danielle is also very much the 'offender' here...

This! Danielle is a fake and a hypocrite. Can't stand her.

Cherie 11-06-2014 07:10 AM

Danielle has gone in trying to be different and gain an edge, it's backfired massively on her as she truely does not believe in what she is saying, i think she hoped it would give her the under dog mantle but it just comes across as false.Keep her in over Tamara though please.

Vanessa 11-06-2014 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 6927069)
Danielle has gone in trying to be different and gain an edge, it's backfired massively on her as she truely does not believe in what she is saying, i think she hoped it would give her the under dog mantle but it just comes across as false.Keep her in over Tamara though please.

If she was herself she would be liked more. No one is fooled by her poor me act.

Crimson Dynamo 11-06-2014 07:16 AM

Danielle is a fake christian (if indeed real ones exist) and its plain to see that its an act, even to Helen so frankly it not surprising that in a row, what everyone is thinking gets articulated.

The reason it would not be tolerated if it were Islam for example is that Christians are on the whole able to accept that people dont respect or believe in their religion, Muslims have not reached that stage yet and still think they are right etc. As a producer you know that you will not get into trouble for a christian bash but you also know you would for anti-islam

Its about blame and self.

chuff me dizzy 11-06-2014 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 6926687)
Doubt it, not about this anyway. Christianity is fair game, any other religion however...

Exactly what i said in another thread ,IF Danielle was a Muslim, Helen would have been booted, no questions asked

Vanessa 11-06-2014 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by johllllll (Post 6926926)
I think everyone is forgetting danielle's attitude throughout this whole show. She clearly favours massive oppression of women. "you have to be lady like", just one of many examples. Why is a women not aloud to talk about sex, a perfectly natural thing yet a lad can. People like her are stopping this world from evolving into a completely equal and free society. It takes people like helen to give narrow minded, brainwashed individuals a kick up the arse.

Having a religious view is a free choice but when using it as opression or influencing other people is wrong on many levels

I couldn't agree more.

DrunkerThanMoses 11-06-2014 08:09 AM

Her comment about Jesus is the only thing that shocked me about last night, very distasteful and of course her pathetic gang of gormless idiots laughed.

Really hoping Tamara goes, that will stop them all laughing like idiotic chavs.

Crimson Dynamo 11-06-2014 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses (Post 6927167)
Her comment about Jesus is the only thing that shocked me about last night, very distasteful and of course her pathetic gang of gormless idiots laughed.

Really hoping Tamara goes, that will stop them all laughing like idiotic chavs.

Did you ever see the Life of Brian 30 odd years ago?

muchadoaboutnothing 11-06-2014 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 6926652)
If she was pointing out Danielle's hypocrisy then fair enough but she did take it too far with the 'go **** Jesus' stuff

So 100% agree with you. Danielle does indeed have hypocritical tendencies and they should be pointed out to her but for Helen to be so slanderous against someones religion is, in my opinion, so offensive that it should have warranted an immediate removal from the house. As the OP said, if she had said similar about the Muslim faith she would have been out straight away.

Kizzy 11-06-2014 12:52 PM

Reading about her life it seems to have played a big part, and is probably the reason why she is so negative about it .

Marsh. 11-06-2014 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6927676)
Reading about her life it seems to have played a big part, and is probably the reason why she is so negative about it .

Helen's?

Niamh. 11-06-2014 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by johllllll (Post 6926926)
I think everyone is forgetting danielle's attitude throughout this whole show. She clearly favours massive oppression of women. "you have to be lady like", just one of many examples. Why is a women not aloud to talk about sex, a perfectly natural thing yet a lad can. People like her are stopping this world from evolving into a completely equal and free society. It takes people like helen to give narrow minded, brainwashed individuals a kick up the arse.

Having a religious view is a free choice but when using it as opression or influencing other people is wrong on many levels

It's just so hard to take those attitudes of Danielle seriously knowing what she does for a living and has apparently said herself in interviews about her own sex life

Kizzy 11-06-2014 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 6927680)
Helen's?

Yes there's a link on here somewhere to an interview with her when she was 24 about her upbringing and how she got into prostitution, it's really sad :(

Crimson Dynamo 11-06-2014 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by muchadoaboutnothing (Post 6927670)
So 100% agree with you. Danielle does indeed have hypocritical tendencies and they should be pointed out to her but for Helen to be so slanderous against someones religion is, in my opinion, so offensive that it should have warranted an immediate removal from the house. As the OP said, if she had said similar about the Muslim faith she would have been out straight away.

why do you think that religion belief is special and warrant of protection?

Bluerang1 11-06-2014 01:10 PM

As a Christian I was offended but I guess I'm so used to people bashing Christianity that I didn't notice the extent of her words. You're absolutely right, if she said this about another religion there'd be an uproar.

Crimson Dynamo 11-06-2014 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluerang1 (Post 6927708)
As a Christian I was offended but I guess I'm so used to people bashing Christianity that I didn't notice the extent of her words. You're absolutely right, if she said this about another religion there'd be an uproar.

and your evidence for that is what?

Jake. 11-06-2014 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 6927720)
and your evidence for that is what?

Ron joking about bombs with Danielle Marr in CBB? He was warned straight away

Marsh. 11-06-2014 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 6927720)
and your evidence for that is what?

:joker: Are you joking?

Because every tiny little thing said about the Muslim faith is met with heavy backlash?

If she said to a Muslim housemate "Go and **** Allah" they'd have probably aired a warning in the diary room.

Crimson Dynamo 11-06-2014 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake. (Post 6927722)
Ron joking about bombs with Danielle Marr in CBB? He was warned straight away

Well Ron had a little track record and linking a religion wholly with terrorist activity and death is not the same as slagging someone off for duplicity.

Marsh. 11-06-2014 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6927699)
Yes there's a link on here somewhere to an interview with her when she was 24 about her upbringing and how she got into prostitution, it's really sad :(

Oh so she had a religious upbringing? How old is she now? 30s?

Jake. 11-06-2014 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 6927728)
:joker: Are you joking?

Because every tiny little thing said about the Muslim faith is met with heavy backlash?

If she said to a Muslim housemate "Go and **** Allah" they'd have probably aired a warning in the diary room.

Pretty much

Crimson Dynamo 11-06-2014 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 6927728)
:joker: Are you joking?

Because every tiny little thing said about the Muslim faith is met with heavy backlash?

If she said to a Muslim housemate "Go and **** Allah" they'd have probably aired a warning in the diary room.

Well as that is conjecture on your part its not evidence.

Kazanne 11-06-2014 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 6927728)
:joker: Are you joking?

Because every tiny little thing said about the Muslim faith is met with heavy backlash?

If she said to a Muslim housemate "Go and **** Allah" they'd have probably aired a warning in the diary room.

She'de have probably got death threats too.

Crimson Dynamo 11-06-2014 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 6927730)
Oh so she had a religious upbringing? How old is she now? 30s?

37

Crimson Dynamo 11-06-2014 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 6927734)
She'de have probably got death threats too.

I thought they told you off about them?

Marsh. 11-06-2014 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 6927732)
Well as that is conjecture on your part its not evidence.

I can't believe you of all people are coming out with this. :joker:

I love it.

Kizzy 11-06-2014 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 6927730)
Oh so she had a religious upbringing? How old is she now? 30s?

27, I just think that if she's been judged a slut and classless before by people using religion to shame her then this situation with danielle will have really touched a nerve maybe?

Marsh. 11-06-2014 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6927741)
27, I just think that if she's been judged a slut and classless before by people using religion to shame her then this situation with danielle will have really touched a nerve maybe?

Ah, I see. 27? Flaming heck I thought she was older than that. Eventful life for 27.

Me. I Am Salman 11-06-2014 01:34 PM

she's 25

Me. I Am Salman 11-06-2014 01:35 PM

oh you mean helen

Marsh. 11-06-2014 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Me. I Am Salman (Post 6927756)
she's 25

:eek:

25, 27, 24, 37. What the ****? Is she a witch? :laugh:

Marsh. 11-06-2014 01:36 PM

:laugh: Just checked the BB site. She's 27. :laugh: Ok.

Me. I Am Salman 11-06-2014 01:36 PM

What?

Me. I Am Salman 11-06-2014 01:36 PM

I was talking about Danielle

erinp5 11-06-2014 09:05 PM

Helen Wood and Danielle McMahon’s argument is still impacting the house, with Christopher Hall now deciding that he’s furious.



Christopher has waited two days and open up with his opinion on the clash, branding Helen “appalling” and saying she should be embarrassed.

It follows some of the other housemates claiming that Christopher sat on the fence a lot.

“I do have an opinion I just want don’t want to create a massive **** storm,” he explained. “I just felt it was best to shut up and let the girls who were fighting sort it out.”

Delivering his verdict of the argument, Christopher said: “She [Helen] should be embarrassed, her comments were appalling, absolutely appalling.



“She insulted everything from her beliefs to to her appearance, she should be appalled.

“I know she was angry but in the outside world I don’t surround myself by people as angry as that, I come from a Christian background and she’s slagging off those belief systems in front of me.”

And Stephen warned: “If he said something like that again, I will say something about it but there was a lot of s**t going down, at the time I just thought there was really no point in stirring this up.”


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