Judi James saw and examined a different edit so she hasn't actually given an expert opinion on this footage.

Thanks.

No the point of the thread is to show that Ashleigh did actually answer Helen back yet on BOTS their expert pshycologist gave a body language diagnosis of the situation which was wrongly edited and made out to look like a totally different situation.

So the point of this thread is to show that he producers cut that whole argument to give an incorrect portrayal on what actually happened as people were discussing about Ashleigh just sitting there and doing nothing.

Forum members were debating over something that was untrue so basically BB wasted everyones time on here.

Ashleigh said to Helen "No shut up, im not talking to you you never let people talk your a ****ing embaresment" is that retorical?

At one point all 3 were saying something to her hence Mark and Winston saying they had to step in because it was 3 against 1.

Seriously I ****ing hate the fact we have no live feed because when we see what actually happens it makes me question the whole show.

Who knows Helen could be a ray of sunshine and Jale could be the house beauty lol

No I didn't, that was very ignorant of me.

I shall watch it now.

Well not really its just you wasting your time if you don't take time to watch it then you cant really give an opinion.

Its like reviewing a song without ever hearing it.

Ok I watched it

So why would people want to evict a girl that stands up to the house bully?

If that was Jale she would have just laid down to Helen like she did at the start and become one of Helen's merry followers like she is now.

I wasn't being sarcastic, I genuinely mean't that it was ignorant of me to not watch the video before commenting.

I just commented on what I saw in the highlights show.

Oh lol sorry :)

I was so shocked when watching the highlights last night I was surprised no one else pointed it out.

Wasn't gonna watch this cause I couldn't be bothered but I did anyway and wtf...I was pretty disappointed in Ashleigh's for her lack of response last night, this paints a totally different picture than the edit did. It's things like these that prove why we need live feed

Yeah I didn't think people would even bother to watch it because they do just believe the edit.

Thankfully 153 people took a few minutes to realise how deceiving the editing is this year.

To be fair, I don't need to watch that to know the editing is sh*t. It's been that way for at least 4 years.

I know but when you see it as blatant as it is here its just ridiculous.

Absoloutely brilliant post. People have blinkers on when it comes to Ashleigh but lets be fair. She would have nothing to worry about or no confrontation if she hadn't bitched in the first place. And all her bitching etc was done away from the group. Its time for her to face the music. And I despise Helen so its not that I am a Helen fan but Ashleigh is heading for the title of biggest bitch in there. Its a shame. She could have got involved more in the group and acted her age.

:dance::dance::dance::dance::dance: THIS

Ashleigh :clap1:

Judi James is so jealous of Ashleigh's young looks

I'm a Helen fan and I'm one of probably 3 people of the Helen community that wants Ashleigh to stay lol.

The way I see it is that Helen of course dealt with it wrongly she should never have attacked Ashleigh in front of the gang. Jale dealt with it the right way. She took Chris aside and told him exactly how she felt and what she had seen. Why would anyone be gunning to get Jale out. Kimberly didn't want to go into it. She refused to talk to Ashleigh about it when Helen was going for blood. In all fairness Ashleigh has bitched more about Kim than Helen so of the three who saw the clips Helen of course headed straight to Ashleigh to tell her off.

Now in all fairness Ashleigh has only herself to blame that the girls are so annoyed with her. She turned from a rather sweet but quiet young girl who hung around with Kim and Danielle into a vicious and vile bitch who hasn't the COURAGE to confront the people she has issues with only bitch about them in the diary room or behind their backs.

As for the diary room stuff this has always been shown in highlights shows. In fact a few years ago a show as dedicated to diary room uncut. At no point has BB assured housemates that what they say will remain private. Weighing up the pro's and con's of Jale and Ashleigh Jale wins by a margin. I know Ashleigh fans are trying to pick Jale off so Ashleigh wont go but Jale doesn't deserve to be evicted. Of the housemates that are up I am afraid Ashleigh deserves to go

Most people bitch like Ashleigh does and especially most 18 year old girls. If you try and pretend you don't you're lying to yourself

It's hardly the crime of the century, the hatred on here would make you think she's raped and murdered all your families

Missing the point of the thread.

Its about how badly edited the argument was leading to a total different portrayal of the actual events.

As a viewer I don't think any of us should think that's ok so obviously posts like this and the one you're responding to have obviously been made because you didn't watch a short clip with evidence showing it was a shambles from the editing team.

This was far more entertaining to watch aswell over last nights edit. I think people would have rather watched Ashleigh tell Helen to **** off and call her an embaressment than a fake portrayal of her cowering in fear of the almighty Helen.

Even though I do like Helen lol Helen was pretty much edited as it happened so kudos to that, but that should be the case anyway.

lol no, when Ashleigh offers more to the show than Christopher and Chris do that's just not true

I think you're wrong about Jale to be honest. She does this whole taking her arguments for a one on one and openly lets everyone know that she wont do this infront of anyone.

This is to gain some sort of respect but in actuality I believe she does it so she can sit with that person one on one and intimidate them with no one else there to but in an give an opinon that challenges hers.

Lol I know it's ridiculous.

Although I bet most people wouldn't turn Ashleigh down if she offered them sex.:joker:

I'd rather have sex with a bear trap and that is no exaggeration.

You could always have Kimbot, I heard Steven wants a threesome.:joker:

Jack, once again you are getting beyond yourself. If someone does not agree with your ideas, they are deluded or lying to themselves. Since when did you get a degree in life mate. Stop insulting people and offer alternative suggestions or evidence that is devoid of silly comments. Different folks, different strokes etc etc.

Can't be dealing with this not being shown? It missed most of the awful ganging up on her & aggressive attacks on Ashleigh, also missed her sticking up for herself & proving Helen's hypocrisy, why is the show so against Ashleigh?

It makes me so angry and not just because of Ashleigh not getting to get her point seen by the viewers but also that they showed about 25 minutes of Kim and Steven when they could have been showing what we all wanted to see.

Ashleigh finally have it out with Helen and vice versa.

It just shows the producers have no idea what the viewers see as entertainment. They saw the reaction "open it" had then totally went nuts over the showmance, no BB we want to see a fair representation of the house and not just a focus on 2 housemates.

Well no, because that defeats the object of going on the show in the first place

So many people jealous of Ashleigh