Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7046786)

Nothing's that black and white.

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7046927)

139 dead v no dead
sounds black and white and red all over

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7047054)

I was, of course, referring to your comment about Scotland. No country is all good or all bad.

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7047054)

I was, of course, referring to your comment about Scotland. No country is all good or all bad.

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7045904)

I'm a little confused... Jerusalem is a city, not a country, so how are you going to have a "one state called Jerusalem"? That makes no sense to me.

Although the 'state' of Israel came into being in the forties, Israel itself has been sacred to Jews for over five thousand years... three thousand years before Christ was born and four thousand years before Islam came into being. So when you refer to the conflict of "biblical times" I'm not sure what you mean. Jerusalem is the sacred city of the Jews in the same way Mecca and Medina are sacred to Islam. Jerusalem hardly features at all in the Quran. And yes Jerusalem is sacred to Christians because Jesus lived there two thousand years ago, and Jesus was a Jew.

It would be a fine thing if everyone could live together in peace. It'll happen one day when the "old guard" get older and new generations take over. There is more and more resistance to violence among the Jewish youth in Israel, more coming together to call for peace. For the moment, it's a blood bath.

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7047301)

israel is now mostly bad....scotland has a far more balanced view of world events than England, who are controlled by the elite rich and monarchy hell bent on power

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7048179)

Whatever... it's not worth pursuing this discussion with you, frankly.

Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 7036218)

Livia, thanks for taking the time to explain your reasons for not wanting to converse with me, I meant to say Israelis but maybe used the word Jews in error and for that I am truly sorry.

I am upset that you cannot even bring yourself to debate topics with me on this forum , I never set out to try and insult you or deliver personal attacks.

I like to think of myself as a well educated person with a good set of morals ready to speak up for injustice wherever I see it.

I have no specific loyalties to any particular group or class or religion. In fact as I have said on this forum on many occasions I consider religion as a deeply personal thing and am suspicious of organised religion as I feel it is used to control people and can be manipulated to set people against one another.

I hope in time we may exchange the odd post or two and that some of my misguided earlier posts may be forgiven.

Nedusa.....

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7050396)

30 odd children dead so far 172 dead total in last 7 days

No deaths in Israel.

As terrorists they are not exactly proficient

Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 7049759)

Not sure you saw my last post to you Livia........

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Originally Posted by EyeballPaul (Post 7052739)

To be fair to Israel,What are they supposed to do when the cowardly Hamas fire rockets from civillian areas?Hamas are turning these areas into military targets.

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7051790)

That was very decent of you, Nedusa. I in turn apologise for making an issue of a post you made some time ago omitting to credit the author. It was childish of me.

I'm willing to draw a line if you are.

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7060119)

The six-hour pause in Israeli air strikes began at 9am on Tuesday as part of a proposal unveiled by Egypt on Monday intended to lead to a full ceasefire and talks on a long-term agreement.

Hamas rejected the plan, saying it had not been consulted and its demands were not being met. According to the Israeli military, more than 50 rockets were fired into Israel before air strikes were resumed.

But there were inconsistent messages from Hamas. Its military wing, the al-Qassam Brigades, robustly rejected the proposal as a "surrender", saying "our battle with the enemy continues and will increase in ferocity and intensity". But Hamas spokesmen in Gaza said the Islamist group had not received an official ceasefire proposal, and its demands must be met before it lays down arms.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ects-ceasefire

Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 7065733)

I remember when Galloway ripped Sky News and their bias to shreds years ago live on television. Was some amazing stuff.

Originally Posted by Achilles (Post 7065811)

I don't trust Galloway. How can I trust a "pro-Palestinian" politician that gets so much airtime on "anti-Palestinian" media?
I don't look at him and think "you're intelligent", I look at him and think "you're intelligence".

Originally Posted by Me. I Am Salman (Post 7065722)

OMG someone just dragged tf out of bbc and exposed their bias :clap1:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7075929)

'Thousands of protesters have gathered in London today to call for an end to Israeli military action in Gaza and "justice and freedom" for Palestine.

Up to 15,000 people are thought to have marched through the capital from Downing Street to the Israeli embassy in Kensington after Israel launched a ground invasion of Gaza on Thursday.'

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014...?utm_hp_ref=uk

Originally Posted by arista (Post 7075989)

That changes Nothing

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7075993)

In respect to what?

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7076006)

Everything ends eventually, it's how it ends that is determinable.

People demonstrating against war is a positive for me.

Originally Posted by arista (Post 7076017)

Only by Nukes





Demonstrators are Deluded Fools.

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7076025)

That's not true, many wars have ended without nuclear attack.
How are they deluded? They want an end to war so they go out and vocalise that.

Originally Posted by arista (Post 7076040)

Big Wars end in Nukes


Look at all that wasted protesting
When Evil Blair went with Bush
on the Illegal Invasion /War in Iraq