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Yaki da 15-07-2014 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7055584)
Um anyone that goes you could claim they could have won, doesn't make it true but if it makes you feel better go right ahead.
Yes you could, but what I'm saying is that a person who is topping every popularity poll is likely to go because of a twist the producers knew would have a strong chance of leading to that result. Just like they knew nominations would probably lead to Marlon being evicted (though they kept their options open just in case)

Can you really not see what they're doing?

MeMyselfAndI 15-07-2014 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7055590)
What even is that? and what are you referring to?
The main thisisbigbrother poll on the front page on week 2, the week she was evicted, you claimed she was topping the thisisbigbrother poll's, she was not. [I don't refer to poxy polls on the forum with like 10 votes]

Marsh. 15-07-2014 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI (Post 7055559)
Why are you clapping an incorrect post? Pauline was not winning all the polls :shrug:
It's not incorrect. Pauline was most popular and favourite to win in week 1. Week 2 saw all of that fall off a cliff. So Josy's post was correct, "current" popularity means nothing in terms of winning. We're only halfway, anything can happen within 1 week never mind 5.

Josy 15-07-2014 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 7055588)
Really? The only eviction Tellymix called wrong was Matthew/Ash. And as has been pointed out the people who have topped the polls in the latter half of their series have included Aaron, Deana, Adam, Luke A, Gina, Dexter and Sam. Every one of those names finished top 3 or won.



It's not hypocritical at all. It's fans of a person on a show that is now so heavily manipulated it would almost be the best thing for the person you're supporting to go out that way.




So do you honestly think they didn't make the decision to do what they did on Monday knowing full well what the result was going to be? DO you seriously believe they are not pulling these stunts with certain outcomes in their mind? You're a very naive person if you do.



They didn't confirm anything until the very last moment. They even didn't do the nominations live in case it didn't work out the way they were expecting.

I find it hilarious that the viewers of this show are so easily taken in by them.
No I don't believe they made the decision of what to do on Monday because we had been sent information, confirmed information before that not really sure what you aren't getting there tbh. And I'm not naive.

Can you not understand how your point about noms isnt making any sense? they done the noms before hand because they had no time, regardless of whether they were face to face or not it was going to be the same outcome :shrug:

My point still stands that you saying they are manipulating this show around Ashleigh to stop her from winning is absolutely ridiculous.

Josy 15-07-2014 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI (Post 7055597)
The main thisisbigbrother poll on the front page on week 2, the week she was evicted, you claimed she was topping the thisisbigbrother poll's, she was not. [I don't refer to poxy polls on the forum with like 10 votes]
I never claimed Pauline was topping anything on the week she was evicted, maybe you need to read my posts again.

IIRC Pauline topped the favourite poll and the profile favourites on the first week of the show.

Marsh. 15-07-2014 02:42 PM
What exactly do the producers benefit from manipulating the show to prevent Ashleigh from winning?

She was nothing but wallpaper for 3 weeks so your presumptions that she could win in another 5 weeks is laughable.

Yaki da 15-07-2014 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7055615)
No I don't believe they made the decision of what to do on Monday because we had been sent information, confirmed information before that not really sure what you aren't getting there tbh. And I'm not naive.
They knew Marlon was going to get the most nominations ever since he pressed the button! FFS.

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Can you not understand how your point about noms isnt making any sense? they done the noms before hand because they had no time, regardless of whether they were face to face or not it was going to be the same outcome :shrug:
Maybe, but it doesn't change the fact that the decision to do it was made when they knew full well Marlon was the one most likely to get them.

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My point still stands that you saying they are manipulating this show around Ashleigh to stop her from winning is absolutely ridiculous.
Really? So they send in 3 new housemates, giventhem the power to evict whoever they want, when there's a girl in there who keeps saying she wants to go? You don't see where that's likely to lead? :laugh:

Josy 15-07-2014 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7055620)
What exactly do the producers benefit from manipulating the show to prevent Ashleigh from winning?

She was nothing but wallpaper for 3 weeks so your presumptions that she could win in another 5 weeks is laughable.
I have been asking that too :shrug:

To say the producers are manipulating the entire show around her to prevent her from staying or winning is one of the most ridiculous things I have read.

I actually can't believe people truly think that :joker:

Yaki da 15-07-2014 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7055620)
What exactly do the producers benefit from manipulating the show to prevent Ashleigh from winning?
Well I don't know... Given that there was a petition to stop them from doing this sort of thing with evictions/the public vote and they've instead decided to do it twice, maybe they just get a kick out of rubbing the fans noses in it.

Marsh. 15-07-2014 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 7055638)
Well I don't know...
:joker:

See, you're crying about conspiracy theories that you can't even justify.

Josy 15-07-2014 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 7055629)
They knew Marlon was going to get the most nominations ever since he pressed the button! FFS.



Maybe, but it doesn't change the fact that the decision to do it was made when they knew full well Marlon was the one most likely to get them.



Really? So they send in 3 new housemates, giventhem the power to evict whoever they want, when there's a girl in there who keeps saying she wants to go? You don't see where that's likely to lead? :laugh:
You are making no sense, everyone knew Marlon would go what does that have to do with anything? how does that make your claim about Ashleigh and the show being manipulated any more valid? please explain?

You are concentrating on Ashleigh too much there are plenty of other housemates in there and at this point none of us have a clue who they will evict, it's **** for whoever they do choose but that doesn't mean it's manipulated.

MeMyselfAndI 15-07-2014 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7055617)
I never claimed Pauline was topping anything on the week she was evicted, maybe you need to read my posts again.

IIRC Pauline topped the favourite poll and the profile favourites on the first week of the show.
well how bizzaree, I'd assume when you mentioned she was topping all the polls according to TiBB & so should she be seen as a 'uncrowned winner', I assumed you were mentioning her popularity at the time/week she was evicted, like we are all for Ashleigh.

It's like the equivalent of people replying "Ashleigh is not popular, look at the week 2 poll', just random

And here's the poll if anyone else wants to see it, Pauline was not topping any polls on TiBB the week she was evicted

Yaki da 15-07-2014 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7055632)
I have been asking that too :shrug:

To say the producers are manipulating the entire show around her to prevent her from staying or winning is one of the most ridiculous things I have read.

I actually can't believe people truly think that :joker:
Well you tell me what they had in mind giving 3 new housemates the power to evict when they know full well there's one person in there who will tell them she wants to go?

Marsh. 15-07-2014 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 7055645)
Well you tell me what they had in mind giving 3 new housemates the power to evict when they know full well there's one person in there who will tell them she wants to go?
THE HOUSEMATES DON'T KNOW THE NEWBIES ARE EVICTING THEM!!!!

We don't even know if they'll be able to converse, they may be in the diary room and watched on the plasma.

They're having instant evictions because they're striving for something new that the show has never done before.

Josy 15-07-2014 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 7055645)
Well you tell me what they had in mind giving 3 new housemates the power to evict when they know full well there's one person in there who will tell them she wants to go?
Its Armageddon week, they have to provide as much shocks as possible to the housemates and to the viewers, it has nothing to do with Ashleigh saying she wants to go, she seems happy enough in there atm.

Marsh. 15-07-2014 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI (Post 7055644)
well how bizzaree, I'd assume when you mentioned she was topping all the polls according to TiBB & so should she be seen as a 'uncrowned winner', I assumed you were mentioning her popularity at the time/week she was evicted, like we are all for Ashleigh.
:conf: Ashleigh hasn't been evicted so what are you talking about?

Yaki da 15-07-2014 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7055643)
You are making no sense
Or you just struggle to comprehend.


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everyone knew Marlon would go what does that have to do with anything?
It has everything to do with proving that they will and do manipulate the show to get certain people out. The decision to evict the person with the most noms was obviously, (to those of us with sense), done with Marlon in mind.


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how does that make your claim about Ashleigh and the show being manipulated any more valid? please explain?
Because they know full well there's a strong chance she will be the one who gets evicted. There's little to no chance at all of it being Mark or Winston. And they know this.

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You are concentrating on Ashleigh too much there are plenty of other housemates in there and at this point none of us have a clue who they will evict, it's **** for whoever they do choose but that doesn't mean it's manipulated.
Oh come on. You have to believe that these people don't think these things through and just leave everything to chance. Yes, it's possible that Danielle will get it, or Chris. But the most likely person, given that she has been saying she wants to leave, is obviously Ashleigh. There's even a video of them today pointing out that she wants to leave. Something a blind person could have seen coming.

MeMyselfAndI 15-07-2014 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7055654)
:conf: Ashleigh hasn't been evicted so what are you talking about?
this thread is about Ashleigh possibly being evicted, and so the post was under the assumption if she was evicted, it's not that hard to understand, can you stop nitpicking my posts now.

Marsh. 15-07-2014 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI (Post 7055659)
this thread is about Ashleigh possibly being evicted, and so the post was under the assumption if she was evicted, it's not that hard to understand, can you stop nitpicking my posts now.
:conf: I'm not nitpicking anything. YOU responded to me because you were nitpicking something in Josy's post that I agreed with.

If you don't like to be quoted and discuss things then don't come on a forum. :shrug:

MeMyselfAndI 15-07-2014 02:52 PM
Me & others are just pointing out that Ashleigh is one of the most popular housemates in the house by the public vote, and so if she was voted out by a random trash housemate like Bianca, it's very likely that she would have went on to win the whole show, considering she has so much public support at the moment.

Achilles 15-07-2014 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7055632)
I have been asking that too :shrug:

To say the producers are manipulating the entire show around her to prevent her from staying or winning is one of the most ridiculous things I have read.

I actually can't believe people truly think that :joker:
The reason would be that she is not supposed to win but there is a danger she might.

MeMyselfAndI 15-07-2014 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7055660)
:conf: I'm not nitpicking anything. YOU responded to me because you were nitpicking something in Josy's post that I agreed with.

If you don't like to be quoted and discuss things then don't come on a forum. :shrug:
But josy's post was wrong, Pauline did not top the polls in the week she was evicted, she only topped launch night poll's, so i was wondering why you were clapping a clearly wrong post.

Yaki da 15-07-2014 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7055647)
THE HOUSEMATES DON'T KNOW THE NEWBIES ARE EVICTING THEM!!!!
What the hell does that have to do with anything? The people making the show know that Ashleigh has been saying these things and have given the newbies the power to give her her wish, which the public will not do.

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We don't even know if they'll be able to converse, they may be in the diary room and watched on the plasma.

They're having instant evictions because they're striving for something new that the show has never done before.
I just can't believe people are watching this show under the illusion that the producers don't have certain people they are happy to see go and perhaps even want to go (and therefore set things up for them to go) and certain people they will bend over backwards to make sure they don't lose. it's hilarious to me how naive some of you are.

Marsh. 15-07-2014 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI (Post 7055664)
But josy's post was wrong, Pauline did not top the polls in the week she was evicted, she only topped launch night poll's, so i was wondering why you were clapping a clearly wrong post.
Josy has already explained she never said that and it isn't what she meant so it wasn't wrong. You misunderstood what she was saying.

Josy 15-07-2014 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 7055657)
Or you just struggle to comprehend.




It has everything to do with proving that they will and do manipulate the show to get certain people out. The decision to evict the person with the most noms was obviously, (to those of us with sense), done with Marlon in mind.




Because they know full well there's a strong chance she will be the one who gets evicted. There's little to no chance at all of it being Mark or Winston. And they know this.



Oh come on. You have to believe that these people don't think these things through and just leave everything to chance. Yes, it's possible that Danielle will get it, or Chris. But the most likely person, given that she has been saying she wants to leave, is obviously Ashleigh. There's even a video of them today pointing out that she wants to leave. Something a blind person could have seen coming.
It wasn't done with Marlon in mind, it was done because it's the norm that the hm's with the most votes would face eviction by removing the public say it was obvious the person with the most noms was gone? what other way would you have expected them to work that out?

I don't believe for a minute that they have any reason to want Ashleigh evicted and you still haven't answered the question as to why they would want that anyway?

Well if they do choose Ashleigh because she wants to leave then how is that producers fault? if anything it's Ashleighs for saying she wants to go home..

Achilles 15-07-2014 02:55 PM
Why was Helen given the free pass? Was it because she struck up a lovely bond with Pauline after 5 minutes and just got lucky? Or was she supposed to get the free pass because she was integral to the show.

Josy 15-07-2014 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Achilles (Post 7055662)
The reason would be that she is not supposed to win but there is a danger she might.
That's not a reason? what's the reason for her not being supposed to win then? :laugh:

MeMyselfAndI 15-07-2014 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7055671)
Josy has already explained she never said that and it isn't what she meant so it wasn't wrong. You misunderstood what she was saying.
i just don't think Josy was referring to a launch night poll in saying Pauline was popular on TiBB & so is she the uncrowned winner, as that makes no sense to me. As everyone knows launch night poll's are essentially useless, i believe she was referring to different poll's, as when I posted the week 2 poll, the immediate reponse was "wheres that from? what?" or something like that, rather than replying with I meant the launch night poll's.

Achilles 15-07-2014 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7055677)
That's not a reason? what's the reason for her not being supposed to win then? :laugh:
Spoiler:

Why does Alan Ladd shoot Jack Palance at the end of Shane? :tongue:

Marsh. 15-07-2014 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 7055670)
What the hell does that have to do with anything? The people making the show know that Ashleigh has been saying these things and have given the newbies the power to give her her wish, which the public will not do.
A lot. You're suggesting Ashleigh will tell them to evict her, which she won't if she isn't aware what they have to do.

The people making the show know, so? What? They're going to tell the newbies to evict Ashleigh on that basis? Ok then.

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 7055670)
I just can't believe people are watching this show under the illusion that the producers don't have certain people they are happy to see go and perhaps even want to go (and therefore set things up for them to go) and certain people they will bend over backwards to make sure they don't lose. it's hilarious to me how naive some of you are.
I'm not naive. I KNOW how manipulated the show can be to create drama and keep certain housemates in who are holding the show together (Charley BB8 as a huge example).

However, when you sit there ranting about how they're eager to evict Ashleigh AND CAN PROVIDE NO POSSIBLE REASON WHY THEY ARE DOING THIS then why should we take your word for it? That doesn't make us naive, that just means we don't believe every little batsh*t conspiracy theory when someone doesn't have things going their own way.

In another thread someone's saying Emma got Winston onto BB and is helping to keep him safe. Why is she doing that? Because he appeared on another show she presented last year which means they're best friends. :joker:

Pete. 15-07-2014 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI (Post 7055679)
i just don't think Josy was referring to a launch night poll in saying Pauline was popular on TiBB & so is she the uncrowned winner, as that makes no sense to me. As everyone knows launch night poll's are essentially useless, i believe she was referring to different poll's, as when I posted the week 2 poll, the immediate reponse was "wheres that from? what?" or something like that, rather than replying with I meant the launch night poll's.
she was referring to polls like BBSpy

Josy 15-07-2014 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Achilles (Post 7055674)
Why was Helen given the free pass? Was it because she struck up a lovely bond with Pauline after 5 minutes and just got lucky? Or was she supposed to get the free pass because she was integral to the show.
She was one of the closest to Pauline after a day.

If you are going to say you think Helens free pass was set up then I'm done with this discussion...

Yaki da 15-07-2014 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7055673)
It wasn't done with Marlon in mind
Hahahahahaha :laugh:


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it was done because it's the norm that the hm's with the most votes would face eviction by removing the public say it was obvious the person with the most noms was gone? what other way would you have expected them to work that out?
Why did they choose to do that? They could have done anything. They chose to do something that would obviously lead to Marlon being out. They make these decisions with the results in mind. Do you honestly not see that?

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I don't believe for a minute that they have any reason to want Ashleigh evicted and you still haven't answered the question as to why they would want that anyway?

Well if they do choose Ashleigh because she wants to leave then how is that producers fault? if anything it's Ashleighs for saying she wants to go home..
The producers know full well that Ashleigh has been asking to leave, something the public have shown they do not want to see by evicting Jale instead. Suddenly they give 3 new housemates the power to evict someone after there's already been complaints about taking away the public vote. These 3 housemates have already commented on Ashleigh saying she wants to leave and discussed if that should influence their decision on Friday. Now I saw that coming a bloody mile away and the production team would have seen that coming a mile away. Maybe you can't, but that's your problem

Marsh. 15-07-2014 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI (Post 7055679)
i just don't think Josy was referring to a launch night poll in saying Pauline was popular on TiBB & so is she the uncrowned winner, as that makes no sense to me. As everyone knows launch night poll's are essentially useless, i believe she was referring to different poll's, as when I posted the week 2 poll, the immediate reponse was "wheres that from? what?" or something like that, rather than replying with I meant the launch night poll's.
She was referring to the fact that Pauline was by far the most popular housemate for the first few days/week and then her popularity nosedived.

Meaning current popularity means nothing in terms of winning, unless it's the final week.

MeMyselfAndI 15-07-2014 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Petemitch (Post 7055686)
she was referring to polls like BBSpy
Pauline didn't top any of those poll's except launch night, she came second last on the BBspy for week 2, which is what I posted to disprove the post

Pete. 15-07-2014 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI (Post 7055697)
Pauline didn't top any of those poll's except launch night, she came second last on the BBspy for week 2, which is what I posted to disprove the post
I thought so :hehe:

Josy 15-07-2014 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 7055693)
Hahahahahaha :laugh:




Why did they choose to do that? They could have done anything. They chose to do something that would obviously lead to Marlon being out. They make these decisions with the results in mind. Do you honestly not see that?



The producers know full well that Ashleigh has been asking to leave, someone the public have shown they do not want to happen by evicting Jale instead. Suddenly they give 3 new housemates the power to evict someone after there's already been complaints about taking away the public vote. These 3 housemates have already commented on Ashleigh saying she wants to leave and discussed if that should influence their decision on Friday. Now I saw that coming a bloody mile away and the production team would have seen that coming a mile away. Maybe you can't, but that's your problem
Jeezo.

You are going round in circles now and I'm not wasting my time typing the same thing over and over.

Why do the producers of BB not want Ashleigh to win? Why do they want her evicted from the show?

Also lets go with your idea for a minute, the producers set Marlon up and now he is out what is their reason for that?

MeMyselfAndI 15-07-2014 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7055696)
She was referring to the fact that Pauline was by far the most popular housemate for the first few days/week and then her popularity nosedived.

Meaning current popularity means nothing in terms of winning, unless it's the final week.
Disagree

Brian
Kate
Nadia
Pete
Brian Belo
Sophie
Josie
Aaron

say otherwise, all popular & fan favorites since the beginning/early [before halfway] [Don't know anything about BB1 & BB4 as well, so likely more than half the winners have been popular since the beginning so it does matter]

Bluerang1 15-07-2014 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7055689)
She was one of the closest to Pauline after a day.

If you are going to say you think Helens free pass was set up then I'm done with this discussion...
Oh course it's not set up. It's not like the producers didn't want a success story of a hated prostitute turning into the UK's sweetheart.http://i.imgur.com/NMyq8Uz.png

It's backfired tho.

Samm 15-07-2014 03:01 PM
MMI in this thread :clap1:

I don't think Ashleigh will be going Biannca likes Ashleigh and hates Helen, the only new HM who doesn't like her is Pav


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