I will always give credit to a loud bitcher as opposed to a behind the back silent bitcher. one is a dick, the other is nasty.

What makes me annoyed are those who support Helen by saying she has changed and is entertaining.

She has not changed, she is the first in line challenging others supposed misdeeds, yet when they turned the tables, she denied it, cried, grudgingly admitted it when she couldn't wriggle out of it but didn't regret it.

As for the entertaining, she only entertains by shouting and humiliating others, I cringe for her opponents when she is in full flow. Her self awareness is missing re the tramp name calling, it takes one to know one, eh Helen? It is unbelievable that she of all people played the morality card.

Her consistent moaning in her foghorn loud hard sounding voice brings the mood down in the house as people tiptoe around her. Her using the c word at times when it is not applicable, especially when it is aimed at other housemates and her constant sticking up for Ash when he is a grown man is about as far from being entertaining as possible.

I hope BB shows more of her when she demeans others, Ashleigh for one has suffered greatly from her far from accurate and contrived character assassinations, couldn't be jealousy could it, for a young girl who is cleverly playing the game to the hilt is beautiful without resorting to the surgeons knife and can stand up to Helens ever present malevolence.

Even if they are aggressive, attack people's physical appearance and get multiple warnings for bullying behaviour? That's way more than being a dick.

Please pass my posts bye this morning, you are being obvious.

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You're allowed to reply to my posts but i'm not allowed to reply back?

So ashleigh and danielle didn't regularly refer to helen as a tramp, slut, vile, disgusting and many other colourful adjectives? Considering they're not privvy to the info we have that's very mean.

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Why she of all people play the morality card?
In what way has Ashleigh suffered greatly? Apart from her been shown bitching and Helen/Kim calling her on it. i cant recall another time when Helen has said anything to her.

Plus Ashleigh and Danielle have attacked Kim's and Helen's physical appearances.

Do as you want but I get the last word.

Bloody hell fire Ellen, you are on fire this morning girl, :cheer2:

Whatever gets your juices flowing. I'm not arsed tbh.

I've had my weetabix :joker:

We'll see:smug:

Thanks

..there are so so many posts on this forum that have referred to Helen as vile, disgusting. slag, slut, ***** etc and not just her but other female housemates in other series, it's becoming ridiculous ..Hazel, Luisa..just countless of them..I hate and it seems to be becoming such commonplace to describe someone's dislike of a female..and often from other females..!!.....and these posters I presume are all nice and decent people but Ashleigh and Danielle say those words then they're just awful..and no, to my recollection, Helen has not said any of those words in reference to another female housemate but she's equally not said any better in terms of how she discusses people..the 'toast' comment and what she would do with it before giving it to Christopher was also 'vile and disgusting'..

I'd forgotten that little gem. Quite possibly the nastiest thing said in the house and seems so much worse as it was said about the sweetest guy in the house.

Funny that...only last night Helen called Jale a 'FAT KNOB'.... I think that's a spiteful comment on someone's physical appearance don't you?...

Well exactly they're no better or worse than each other obviously...
I don't think anyone should refer to anyone like that HM or member tbh.

He might be the sweetest guy in the house to us & i do like him but we do not live with him. Christopher shot himself in the foot by going to different HM's and relaying what was said causing probs. Thats the reason why most dont want to tell him anything because they think he cant be trusted, even Chris & Ashleigh agreed that he would go tittle tattling.

Agree that Helen goes ott with what she says, some of what she says is true but put her way doesnt do her any favours.

What has that got to do with my post?

Oh so now Helen is getting pilloried for telling the truth, the mind boggles.

:clap1::clap1::clap1:Way to go Kizzy, accurate and true as always.

Personally I think BB are killing Helen with these clips because they know she can handle it. The same treatment to princess *******igh a while ago was met with a load of disgust, especially after she brought spit the dog and the pout into the foreground.

Lies, denials and then crying about being exposed shows me that she can't handle it.

Those were tears for Stevens feelings not her own feelings. She was madder than upset and rightfully so, she gets a hard ride and its easy to forget what you said weeks ago especially after a drink. The cotton wool princess *******igh is being molycuddled and protected and that's a fact.

The comment about Steven was said a few days ago, not weeks.

The tears were because she got caught out imo.

Fact is, Ashleigh handled being exposed by BB way better than Helen did.

but lil ashleigh still bitched...
I'm not surprised helen cried, the one time she wasn't being nasty is the one they read out .. is she upset about the others? no.
And why should she? they all do it.

I disagree and conclude that your hatred for Helen is clouding your judgement in the face of a mountain of factual evidence. Oh please don't ask me to prove my point as you well know you are wrong.

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Kinda the point of the forum, I thought.

If everyone just said there opinion, without backing it up and then just told the person they're replying to that they're wrong and that's that, the forum would die on it's arse.

You have been doing that for years, never stopped you has it, :dance:

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Oh dear the morality police are here....scatter!

Kizzy that was quoted by another poster. So many angels around right now. Helen has the biggest heart there and I hope she wins the crown. She deserves it the most.

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You're obsessed with me.

Once again, we are here to discuss the hm's. Not each other. So if you'd like to reply to post 67 that'd be good.

Simply because Ashleigh doesn't give a **** about others feelings,hence her not being too bothered about being exposed,she's really hard aint she:hehe:

I have a few things to do today like going to see my new grand daughter Lucy mae born yesterday 8 lb 6 oz and my daughter needs a big hug so I will see you all later. byeeeeeeee.

Congratulations on your new granddaughter xxx nothing more lovely than a new baby :kiss:

if helen had just said sorry steve when clip was shown about tramp comment it would have been easier for her to just move on but by making such a fuss it made the situation worse ,and as for ashleigh stand up for herself and fronting helen i havent seen her do that once she is still afraid of helen she realy needs to show some strength of character she is to wishy washy for me ,,,,