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jet 28-08-2014 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by waylander1973 (Post 7220466)
If he is acting all of this up, then he should ashamed of himself he's damaging people's lives post show and using the public goodwill for his own ends.

I'm not sure I'd go that far...but I do think he knows what he's doing more than is generally believed.

LemonJam 28-08-2014 05:54 PM

Brilliant thread. :thumbs: I've had a generally mixed opinion on Gary (leaning a big towards negative I'll admit) but with this knowledge I've changed some perspective. However with this knowledge I find myself asking what parts of his character are due to brain damage and what parts are really just Gary? It's a fair thought that these undesirable characteristics are solely from the brain damage but what if some weren't?

I totally agree with the notion that the housemates should've been informed a bit more but I fear this is what production wants (they know how the public are suckers for an underdog story). Producers don't want to show us everyone being nice to Gary and they've manipulated the situation to their favour in the name of entertainment. But God aren't we enjoying it? :laugh:

I'd be interested to see how the dynamic changes once they are (if ever) informed.

jet 28-08-2014 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LemonJam (Post 7220497)
Brilliant thread. :thumbs: I've had a generally mixed opinion on Gary (leaning a big towards negative I'll admit) but with this knowledge I've changed some perspective. However with this knowledge I find myself asking what parts of his character are due to brain damage and what parts are really just Gary? It's a fair thought that these undesirable characteristics are solely from the brain damage but what if some weren't?

I totally agree with the notion that the housemates should've been informed a bit more but I fear this is what production wants (they know how the public are suckers for an underdog story). Producers don't want to show us everyone being nice to Gary and they've manipulated the situation to their favour in the name of entertainment. But God aren't we enjoying it? :laugh:

I'd be interested to see how the dynamic changes once they are (if ever) informed.

Yes, I said this the other day. The producers can do what they want and what they want is for the public to get emotionally invested. It's the oldest trick in the book.

JoshBB 28-08-2014 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FlippingEck (Post 7220209)
Oh please. I don't believe what I'm reading some days... you guys..
:idc:

It's shocking, isn't it, how people behave? Maybe you should cut him some slack.

jessicadanielle 28-08-2014 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 7220441)
As I said in another thread but which fits here better:

Gary was talked down to and seemed to be isolated last night. It was uncomfortable viewing.That live feed was just after live nominations though when tensions and feelings are running high and as most of the HM's nominated him, they might have felt uncomfortable themselves interacting with him. It's maybe not a good example of what a normal everyday live feed may be like. If I went by that alone, I would think Gary was being treated badly, no doubt about it.
Then I think of Celeb Apprentice usa, and he drove everyone up the wall on it as well and they hadn't much patience for him either. So that's two shows and 20 + people who are all pretty heartless and uncaring, and by the law of averages that just doesn't compute. So common sense tells me that many of those people have tried in their own way with Gary and he still bugs the hell out of them for whatever reason.
I think he could be manipulative, I think he could be winding people up sometimes. He did it in the USA show, but it was clearer there because they were in situations were they had to work together constantly on campaigns, sales etc. .
So I just don't know what to make of it, but wherever he goes, he causes controversy and it's brilliant viewing. Can anyone imagine what this series would be like without him?

On Celeb Apprentice, was he intentionally winding people up, or just a bit of an awkward personality?

Also, I think on the Apprentice it might be a bit different from BB because they have to work in a team towards an end goal, whereas on BB they just.. be. I'm sure that some of his annoyingness on Celeb Apprentice would translate to living as housemates too though.

jet 28-08-2014 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jessicadanielle (Post 7220582)
On Celeb Apprentice, was he intentionally winding people up, or just a bit of an awkward personality?

Also, I think on the Apprentice it might be a bit different from BB because they have to work in a team towards an end goal, whereas on BB they just.. be. I'm sure that some of his annoyingness on Celeb Apprentice would translate to living as housemates too though.

A bit of both. Often, if they planned some approach, he wanted to do the opposite because he knew things they didn't. :hehe:
He wasn't a team player, wanted things done his way and he held them back more often than not. The general feeling was that he enjoyed being disruptive and standing out from the rest.
When others tried to reason with him he thanked them and still loved them. lol

He was far from stupid as he won the task one week for the team and his hearing didn't seem to be a problem at all as far as I remember.
He drove them bonkers - and they weren't living with him 24/7 in a small space.
I see many similarities in his behaviour in the house even though it's a different situation. He's 2 years older now though and maybe isn't as sharp though I've a feeling he is sharp enough still! :laugh:

jessicadanielle 28-08-2014 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 7220737)
A bit of both. Often, if they planned some approach, he wanted to do the opposite because he knew things they didn't. :hehe:
He wasn't a team player, wanted things done his way and he held them back more often than not. The general feeling was that he enjoyed being disruptive and standing out from the rest.
When others tried to reason with him he thanked them and still loved them. lol

He was far from stupid as he won the task one week for the team and his hearing didn't seem to be a problem at all as far as I remember.
He drove them bonkers - and they weren't living with him 24/7 in a small space.
I see many similarities in his behaviour in the house even though it's a different situation. He's 2 years older now though and maybe isn't as sharp though I've a feeling he is sharp enough still! :laugh:

:laugh::laugh: that doesn't surprise me at all! I can defo imagine that in a situation where the team has to do something right, Gary would always think his way is the right way. I'm reeeeally gonna have to watch the series!

FlippingEck 28-08-2014 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshBB (Post 7220550)
It's shocking, isn't it, how people behave? Maybe you should cut him some slack.

Why? If he was a tad more personable I would consider it


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