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Originally Posted by Kyle (Post 7302304)

I'm afraid I do. 7 years ago on my 18th birthday I was officially diagnosed a man.

That's terrible poor you, on my 18th I was diagnosed a ball breaker.. it's a cross I have to bear :laugh:

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7302315)

That's terrible poor you, on my 18th I was diagnosed a ball breaker.. it's a cross I have to bear :laugh:

:laugh: and here was me thinking you would take to that role like a duck would take to water.

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Originally Posted by Kyle (Post 7298162)

Rate what is more important to a society in your opinion on a scale of 1 for least important and 10 for most important.

The society in question is roughly based on amalgamation of any standard Western European nation.

Health care
Universal Education
Military defence
Secular governance
Freedom of speech
Agriculture
Equal rights between sexes/sexuality
National Welfare system
Economical infrastructure
Ethical Animal husbandry and welfare.

Good idea!

1. Universal Education
2. Health Care
3. Secular Governance
4. Economical Infrastructure
5. Agriculture
6. National Welfare system
7. Military Defence
8. Ethical Animal husbandry and welfare
9. Freedom of Speech
10. Equal rights between sexes (Although the sexualities thing id prioritize more just not the gender crap)

Can I ask why you put secular governance so high up in your list please Raph?

Just curious mate that's all.

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7302277)

Environmental issues such as air pollutants were a direct cause of respiratory disease , without healthcare there would be no screening for congenital abnormality, no assisted labour or antibiotics to guard against infectious and or parasitic disease.
Do I think that if the NHS were to be removed tomorrow there would be a drop in infant mortality? Yes absolutely.

I'm not saying that there wouldn't be an increase in mortality rates (of all age ranges) without free health care, I do think free health care is vital to a fair society, but I also know that there is a shocking amount of waste in the current system and that if people were better educated on when it's appropriate to seek out a doctor and when it's more appropriate to just do a bit of home nursing and TLC then a lot of money would be saved. E. G people rush to the doctors for infant fever when there's no need at all unless there's an accompanying rash or the fever tops 40 - bed and plenty of fluids is all that's needed. Likewise, people seek antibiotic prescriptions (and they are handed out) far too quickly for infections that could and should be fought naturally (to stop antibiotic resistance and strengthen natural immunity). Also people taking up GP and hospital time for nothing at all simply because they don't know what is or isn't a perfectly normal quirk of the human body. All of this should be covered by the education system, it's as important (if not more important??) than literacy and numeracy. It would save the health service a huge amount of money and get the whole thing running more smoothly and efficiently at the same time.

I'd certainly never advocate removal of free health care, it would be a disaster, because as I said there are of course unavoidable medical issues such as genetic problems, cancers, and of course accidents and broken bones that all must be treated, for free, promptly, and without question.

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Originally Posted by Kyle (Post 7298304)

I see where your priorities lie Kaz :hehe:

"Gerard Butler Statue" ---:joker::joker::joker: