Yeah but i'm talking about situations where there was no contact to begin with, and the 'victim' just claims they were raped. So in other words nothing to do with the 'constent/no consent' argument since nothing actually happened in the first place

I would imagine a bigger problem then people being falsely accused is people being afraid to come forward and report a sexual assault/rape incase they're not believed. The first thing you said when you posted in this thread was "most likely a lie" Why is it most likely a lie if 90-92% of cases aren't lies?

I take back the most likely statement. Having seen a friend get falsely accused in the past year, I think i've become particularly cynical to the notion of rape and false allegations. Don't get me wrong Niamh, it is a super serious issue and rape should never be condoned. All i'm saying is that the legal system needs to find a balance between being there for the victim and getting tricked by the false victim, if that makes sense.

this is why I get why not everyone will come forward because, they are not sure if people will believe them. because criminals always lie and blame the victim, making out it is their fault.

The whole 'It's probably a lie for attention' attitude that people have about accusations of these sort is one of the main contributors as to why people don't come forwardd, especially in a celebrity case, it's disgusting.

Someone comes forward with an allegation of rape, against anybody not just a celebrity and people expect the accused to be 'innocent until proven guilty' but yet have no problem throwing away the accusers story as 'attention seeking' or lies, society is ****ed if an accused rapist get's more backing or sympathy than the accuser.

i don't :umm2: It was on the news ages ago and it got banned

i want to read it? got the link?

:joker:

Which means it's a false allegation? :think: Ok then.

wow for once i actually agree with Raph

So so many people lie about celebs doing awful things to them. I think there will be a MASSIVE difference in actual sexual harrasments claims with celebs and non celebs. A lot of the time, people just want money and I think that this is another one of those examples

I really hope its not true, as I love Bill Cosby. But I also hope it's not true because it would be awful for the victim.

Yea, like that Reeva Steenkamp who lied about Oscar Pistorious murdering her.

what a gold digging bitch.

:joker: omfg

This.

These accusations have been around for a long time. Apparently 13 women dating back to the 70's have made complaints and they all tell similar stories of him drugging them. Only last week the comedian Hannibal Burress did a routine that mentioned the alleged sexual assault that caused a bit of a storm.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ladelphia.html

Cosby is such a self righteous ass hole that I believe the charges are probably true.

http://mic.com/articles/101918/13-wo...a-forgiven-him

even though i laughed, i seriously dont think Raph means that at all.

This is Raph we are talking about. He'd never think this of women. As much as we disagree, he'd never say something awful like what you think he is. He cares very much about women and their rights.

The same Raph that said he felt sorry for a guy who was losing his career after he was recorded admitting to molesting a young girl?

^idk

how many Raphs are there? I've not ever seen him make an out of order comment, so i'm just defending him here cause I don't think he meant anything nasty

Well yeah, he did say that comment, from the time I've been on here it seems to me like he says some things just for a reaction, i might be wrong but idk, that's my perception if it.

To say outright that the accusations are 'probably all lies' but then demand people not to judge the accused in the same abrupt way, is not only hypocritical, but a bit dicky.

Raph is not a bad person to be honest, he doesn't mean to say things in a offensive way(people take it out of context). He just stating an opinion which some agree and some don't. He is a good person and one of the kindest members on here.

and please no comments about i would say this, because what i'm saying is true

Technically it's an opinion but whatevs.

I jut think that some of the things that he has said about serious issues are wrong, to flat out call a women a liar without seeing any evidence that she is doing so, when it comes to a sexual assault charge is in my eyes, disgusting and to try and claim it as fact is even worse.

Now especially considering the former accusations against Bill Cosby, where he payed off people to be quiet, where many of them have mentioned the drugging as a way to assault them, the story rings quite true.. maybe she might be lying, we won't know until it goes to trial, but to flat out call said accuser a liar, without rhyme or reason, is appalling.

getraphout tbh

(joking, I do like him really)

What evidence do you have that the court didn't?

The runours arent going away for Bill Cosby.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...harge-him.html

Oh FK me LOL :joker::joker::joker: 10/10

Yes
now trouble maker

Janice Dickinson tells Entertainment Tonight

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...2-460x276.jpeg


He Raped her while she was drugged
she claims


http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-ra...inment-tonight

Model and TV host says comedian drugged and assaulted her in 1982, an encounter she was forced to remove from her memoir

I just have never cringed so hard! One of the accusers was being interviewed and she explained how she told Bill not to do it as she had an infection so he forced her to perform oral sex instead. The interview's response. "don't take this the wrong way but there are ways not to perform oral sex...[like using your teeth]" I just cringed inside and felt so sorry for her. What kind of question is that? Victim shaming at it's worst.

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/11/cn...question-cosby

Maybe, but thats definitely what I would do if a guy tried to force me to suck him off. Teeth are ther best weapon in that situation tbh. Do it right and he wont be doing it to anyone else.

I don't know Vicky, I mean it's easy to say oh just bite him and that's it run for it, but in various situations usually when you try to fight back against an attacker they fight back harder and then you're really in danger.

How hard could he really fight when hes bleeding to death though. I would be nice though and ring an ambulance on my way out though, so he didnt die

That's assuming the bite is strong enough to cause any damage. But that's not really the point though. If someone says for example the murderer hooked his arm with mine and walked me to an area, you don't say why didn't you pull the knife out of his pocket! It's like blaming the victim for not acting quick enough or fast enough in the midst of fear and uncertainty.

Netflix likewise.

His career looks to be all but over.

Is Bill Cosby the American Jimmy Saville? Further more the sanctimonious ****** was on TV the other day talking about arts he's given to the Smithoneion. The the ****** off our TV's Bill.

HE once famously told Eddie Murphy to stop swearing. Well at least Eddie doesn't rape women so I know who'd I'd prefer to hear from.

I honestly believe he has raped the women who have come forward, especially Janice...she has nothing to gain from speaking out at all.

I also get what Raph is saying, sometimes these accusations are very dodgy and I do think in some cases it is people jumping on the band wagon - not saying this happens often but I do believe it happens, I think that's what has happened with Michael La Vel

It no doubt does happen. Especially given the fact newspapers believe just about anything that is salacious about a celebrity.

NBC Scraps Bill Cosby Project Amid Rape Claims

NBC Scraps Bill Cosby Project Amid Rape Claims

Are we sure? Seems like everyone has assaulted at one point. :(

His Cosby Show Series was shown on a cable channel
they have now pulled it from their Ch.

NBC
and a Netflix Project
both stopped



He needs to do a Interview himself

Now a lady who was 15 years old in 1974
has gone to the press

http://news.sky.com/story/1384739/bi...ansion-sex-act

http://hollywoodlife.com/2014/11/22/...he-cosby-show/

Also, in an interview with Lisas husband Jason Mamoa, he makes a comment implying he has a problem with Bill Cosby. Seems there might be a lot of weight to these accusations

Listen at around 8.50