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GiRTh 12-12-2014 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Creggle (Post 7414833)
Well now you've stooped to twisting words I can see where you've been coming from. What is a joke, is the uproar over it. I'm sorry but if an 'unarmed' man assaults a police officer and attempts to take his weapon from him, the officer is free to do whatever he wants, the perp loses his right to live.

LMAO okay, let me stand next to you with a gun, and then let my unarmed 6'7 friend attack you repeatedly, it's nice to see you'd see me as the threat in that situation. :thumbs:

Both situations are uncomparable. Holding a weapon doesn't make you a threat, attacking somebody does.

He loses his right to live cuz he's a big guy but a gang, with guns, who have threatened to resist the cops are less of a threat? WTF I dont get this logic.

Creggle 12-12-2014 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve (Post 7414835)
Holding a weapon makes you a threat, of course it does

Not if you're doing so to prove a point and make it painfully obvious that's all it is for, please don't give these criminal sympathizers a shred of righteousness to cling onto, it does nobody any good.

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 7414838)
He loses his right to live cuz he's a big guy but a gang with guns who have threatened to resist the cops are not? WTF I dont get this logic.

The flawed logic is your comparison, you're comparing a dude who is actively assaulting and endangering another human being to an overzealous protest rally by a bunch of loons. Did the protesters fire a shot, did they point their guns at the police? I know you're quite desperate to keep the comparison holding some form of substance towards your agenda here but it's ridiculous.

Niamh. 12-12-2014 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Creggle (Post 7414839)
Not if you're doing so to prove a point and make it painfully obvious that's all it is for, please don't give these criminal sympathizers a shred of righteousness to cling onto, it does nobody any good.



The flawed logic is your comparison, you're comparing a dude who is actively assaulting and endangering another human being to an overzealous protest rally by a bunch of loons. Did the protesters fire a shot, did they point their guns at the police? I know you're quite desperate to keep the comparison holding some form of substance towards your agenda here but it's ridiculous.

"loons" with guns isn't a dangerous combination then? :think:

GiRTh 12-12-2014 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Creggle (Post 7414839)
overzealous protest rally by a bunch of loons. Did the protesters fire a shot, did they point their guns at the police?

But peaceful protests in Ferguson were forcefully broken up by police with military grade weaponry. The inconsistency is the real crime IMO.

Creggle 12-12-2014 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve (Post 7414842)
"loons" with guns isn't a dangerous combination then? :think:

Depends on your definition of a loon, I think crazy people who shout at oranges, I guess others could perceive it as psychopaths :shrug:

Niamh. 12-12-2014 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Creggle (Post 7414846)
Depends on your definition of a loon, I think crazy people who shout at oranges, I guess others could perceive it as psychopaths :shrug:

either way someone who's "unbalanced" in charge of a gun is pretty dangerous imo

Creggle 12-12-2014 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 7414845)
But peaceful protests in Ferguson were forcefully broken up by police with military grade weaponry. The inconsistency is the real crime IMO.

Yeah they should of been allowed to protest but I suppose when you have an army of sensationalists running around drumming up fuss over nothing, it could put the lives of other officers at risk from revenge attacks. It's not hard to see why the police sweep this under the rug, they know that if Mike Brown was white there wouldn't of been a single article on it bar an obituary.

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Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve (Post 7414847)
either way someone who's "unbalanced" in charge of a gun is pretty dangerous imo

Indeed but opening fire on a group of apparently harmless nutjobs isn't the same as defending your own life against a viscous thug.

GiRTh 12-12-2014 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Creggle (Post 7414849)
Yeah they should of been allowed to protest but I suppose when you have an army of sensationalists running around drumming up fuss over nothing, it could put the lives of other officers at risk from revenge attacks. It's not hard to see why the police sweep this under the rug, they know that if Mike Brown was white there wouldn't of been a single article on it bar an obituary.



Indeed but opening fire on a group of apparently harmless nutjobs isn't the same as defending your own life against a viscous thug.

An Army of sensationalists? Bundy was interviewed by the right wing press and none other than Sean Hannity himself told him on air that he'd like to join him. A supposedly fair and balance news anchor was publicly supporting an armed stand off against the police. Talk about fuss over nothing.

Creggle 12-12-2014 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 7414857)
An Army of sensationalists? Bundy was interviewed by the right wing press and none other than Sean Hannity himself told him on air that he'd like to join him. A supposedly fair and balance news anchor was publicly supporting an armed stand off against the police. Talk about fuss over nothing.

Lmao yes that whole armed protest was infuriatingly stupid I'll agree but I'm still not sure why they deserved to be fired upon if Mike Brown did. Not saying you're saying they should of been shot etc btw but the police finding a peaceful resolution to that, when they're in numbers and both sides don't exactly want death or injury is not the same as a single officer failing to find a peaceful resolution to somebody twice his size assaulting him. Mike would of probably killed the officer had he gotten the upper hand, the only person who could say otherwise would be Mike himself, but Darren didn't fancy taking that gamble.

Daniel. 12-12-2014 04:08 PM

The racism though

Ninastar 12-12-2014 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KeshaRoses (Post 7414870)
The racism though

who is being racist here? please explain

GiRTh 12-12-2014 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Creggle (Post 7414866)
Lmao yes that whole armed protest was infuriatingly stupid I'll agree but I'm still not sure why they deserved to be fired upon if Mike Brown did. Not saying you're saying they should of been shot etc btw but the police finding a peaceful resolution to that, when they're in numbers and both sides don't exactly want death or injury is not the same as a single officer failing to find a peaceful resolution to somebody twice his size assaulting him. Mike would of probably killed the officer had he gotten the upper hand, the only person who could say otherwise would be Mike himself, but Darren didn't fancy taking that gamble.

They deserved to be fired upon cuz they publicly threatened to resist the officers and said on TV that they didnt respect their authority. IF ever there was a chance to show who was in charge that was it, but instead they somehow found a peaceful resolution but the Ferguson protestors are introduced to the departments new military grade weaponry.. The inconsistency, again, is the real crime IMO

Creggle 12-12-2014 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 7414872)
They deserved to be fired upon cuz they publicly threatened to resist the officers and said on TV that they didnt respect their authority. IF ever there was a chance to show who was in charge that was it, but instead they somehow found a peaceful resolution but the Ferguson protestors are introduced to the departments new military grade weaponry.. The inconsistency, again, is the real crime IMO

Actions speak louder than words though and in the end they did not attack or act in an aggressive manner towards the police. A little bit much saying they deserved to be fired upon though, especially as that would of basically created a warzone and who knows how it would of panned out. The way the Ferguson protests were handled was wrong though I will admit that, but the fact that homes and businesses were raided and destroyed in 'honor' of Mr. Brown doesn't make me believe the peaceful part. I'd imagine that is what caused the reaction they got, along with the protest potentially causing more sinister issues like I stated before.

Also, Darren did not respond to a robbery call, he did not know what Mike was doing yet Mike somehow ended up assaulting him? I think it just goes to show what kind of violent person Mike was, unless people are trying to claim that Darren randomly decided to shoot some dude on the street for absolutely no reason?

GiRTh 12-12-2014 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Creggle (Post 7414945)
Actions speak louder than words though and in the end they did not attack or act in an aggressive manner towards the police. A little bit much saying they deserved to be fired upon though, especially as that would of basically created a warzone and who knows how it would of panned out. The way the Ferguson protests were handled was wrong though I will admit that, but the fact that homes and businesses were raided and destroyed in 'honor' of Mr. Brown doesn't make me believe the peaceful part. I'd imagine that is what caused the reaction they got, along with the protest potentially causing more sinister issues like I stated before.

Also, Darren did not respond to a robbery call, he did not know what Mike was doing yet Mike somehow ended up assaulting him? I think it just goes to show what kind of violent person Mike was, unless people are trying to claim that Darren randomly decided to shoot some dude on the street for absolutely no reason?

They pointed their weapons at the officers and at one time a protest sniper said he could easily take out four of the officers. The officers also decided not to use their riot gear as that was considered too provocative and might inspire an attack ,. Why are inner cities not policed like that? Why are unarmed people considered more of a threat than a sniper who is in the process of pointing his rifle at the officers? Why is riot gear used on unarmed protestors but armed protesters it is considered provocation? Why is there not the same amount of consideration given to insighting protestors in inner city area? The double standard is the problem. IMO

Mystic Mock 13-12-2014 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo (Post 7413917)
"Mike brown robbed" Ok but it was proved Darren Wilson didn't know about it and it's debatable as there's video of him paying.
"Why run when they tell you to stop" because Eric Garner.

Go away love.

From the reports that I've read say that Mike Brown was shot in the back 3 times (indicating that he was running away) and that Darren Wilson and The Police tried to make out that Mike Brown charged at Darren Wilson and that's why Darren Wilson shot Mike Brown, the evidence showed though that Mike Brown had been shot from long range.

This whole case sounds strange to me, I don't agree with what The Looters did, but the original message from the pieceful protesters is spot on imo.

And one good thing that does come out of the looting is that no future dodgy cases like this will be getting a slap on the wrist for awhile.

lostalex 13-12-2014 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by The Mockerdeer (Post 7415448)
From the reports that I've read say that Mike Brown was shot in the back 3 times (indicating that he was running away) and that Darren Wilson and The Police tried to make out that Mike Brown charged at Darren Wilson and that's why Darren Wilson shot Mike Brown, the evidence showed though that Mike Brown had been shot from long range.

This whole case sounds strange to me, I don't agree with what The Looters did, but the original message from the pieceful protesters is spot on imo.

And one good thing that does come out of the looting is that no future dodgy cases like this will be getting a slap on the wrist for awhile.

The autopsy proved that he was not shot in the back. and it also proved that he tried to grab the officers gun.

Mystic Mock 13-12-2014 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 7415459)
The autopsy proved that he was not shot in the back. and it also proved that he tried to grab the officers gun.

It had been proven that he was shot from long range though.

And even if Mike Brown was going for Darren Wilson, why did he have to shoot him 12 times? A lot of robbers try to physically attack The Police and they don't get shot that many times.

lostalex 13-12-2014 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by The Mockerdeer (Post 7415467)
It had been proven that he was shot from long range though.

And even if Mike Brown was going for Darren Wilson, why did he have to shoot him 12 times? A lot of robbers try to physically attack The Police and they don't get shot that many times.

why does it matter how many times the cop shot him? he's dead, why does it matter if he was shot once to kill him or 12 times to kill him?

I don't understand how the number of shots that killed him matters at all.

Mystic Mock 13-12-2014 05:12 AM

It means that there was intent.

If his already dead why would you shoot him that many times.

lostalex 13-12-2014 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Mockerdeer (Post 7415530)
It means that there was intent.

If his already dead why would you shoot him that many times.

of course there was intent. a large thug attacked him and he was trying to kill the person who was a danger to society before he hurt anyone else. no one has disputed that.


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