Of course I am, I was asking the OP which N word they meant.

Funny looking Spanish dude.

The misogyny is boring.

not as boring as the male hate on here and on the show and even moreso on the sexist bbots fiasco.......theres infinitely more sexism against men than women in this show and throughout western society

He has a fair point there actually those tw scenarios happened but were not taken as seriously as the might have been.

..it was interesting that in one of the newspapers, Ken's son made no excuses and apologised for his dad's behaviour in the house...I doubt that if Ken would use the terms he did in the house, that it's the first time he's ever used them which his family would also have heard him do as well...so I would have thought that his children may have had similar conversations with him and yet he still does it....

I hope you find some peace in your life. You seem very angry.

Im perfectly content thanks for caring, you sound absolutely furious good luck in dealing with that

Take the misogyny talk elsewhere and stick on topic

Those two scenario were dealt with by BB in a way they thought appropriate. Were they fair? Probably not but they've gone now and I dont see the point in being angry about what happened on a TV show years ago.

Do I sound furious? Looks like I need to up the medication. Thanks for the help. :thumbs:

I'm not the one fighting some imaginary fight against the man haters.

Some of it is down to age, not all of it because there are older people who wouldn't dream of using that language.

It's just a shame that Ken isn't really with the times and doesn't know what is acceptable/unacceptable. The fact that Ken kept going on about providing 'controversy' and wanting to leave doesn't really help how his intentions may be construed.

It's not down to age at all, it's attitude. Ken knows, and then he was informed and warned on top. He was just being an arse.

I'm not saying it's all down to age. I think attitude and age can be related in this instance because of how society treated black people.

And like I said some older people felt (still so) that it was acceptable to use racist terms because they were never chastised for doing so.

The ear biting wasn't years ago.. it was a couple of days ago, and it wasn't dealt with at all.

Hard to discuss that considering we didn't see the incident never mind any action that was taken.

I dont know what happened so I cant comment.

Nobody saw what happened in the toilet but that seems to be open to discussion.

It depends on whether you believe Ken. You don't have to see it. I just happen to believe him.

Most people are in touch enough with reality to know that things that went on back in the day aren't acceptable now. I have my doubts that many are truly ignorant of the facts but I have come across plenty who are just plainly stubborn and want to challenge what is "acceptable or not" now.

No but both Jeremy and Chloe confirmed what happened in the house and the situation was dealt with and we saw and heard it unfold onscreen.

Not really comparable.

Not comparable as even BB didn't see what happened as it was in the toilet. All we have is the two sides.
What we heard unfold was 99% hysteria.

Is it still Racist if you recount a racist incident or story to another person.

Is it racist if you use the acceptable term "Negro"

Is it racist if you only if you use the other word that sounds like snigger.

Is it racist only if the word,sentence,phrase or story is uttered to hurt anothers feelings.

Where is the handbook on racism so Non Racists can check what the rules are and check what is acceptable.





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..I think he's very much in the times though, Braden... especially with the industry he works in so if he knows it's wrong but continues to do so then it's extremely ignorant and disrespectful...

Two sides.... which are exactly the same.

Chloe claimed Jeremy opened her gown, Jeremy admitted he opened her gown.
Jeremy apologised and Big Brother removed him.

Pretty clean cut situation.

This situation Ken has mentioned we haven't seen anything of it, let alone heard Cami's side.

we did hear Cami's side, she lost her balance and fell on kens ear causing significant pain to her teeth ... see the other thread :)

It's racist, he called a black person the N world, in what world is it not racist?

Not that clean, I don't believe he expected her to be nakey..
So that turned his action into an assault seemingly.
There is a thread somewhere where the ear biting convo is mentioned.

Keep digging Ken.

Looks like he wasn't doing it just for the show after all. :hehe:

A thread. I'm talking about the show. :laugh:

I never said he knew she was naked, that's not the point.
The point is he opened her gown and she got upset. He apologised, she forgives him but BB deemed his behaviour so inappropriate he was removed.

We haven't seen any events surrounding this ear bite unfold so can't really discuss it.

Its never stopped everyone before, no reason for it to be different this time :cheer2:

Well the bathroom stuff was aired, we heard what was going on and both Chloe and Jeremy gave pretty much the same version of events. As far as the ear biting goes, all we have is what Ken said, we don't have footage or any comment on it from Cami

As it was accepted in those days, chastisement didn't come into it at all.

It will die out eventually when generations grow old and pass away but there is racial abuse by football crowds in this day and age who have grown up with these more enlightened attitudes, so it still happens.

Would you like to elaborate or not bother at all. Thanks. :smug:

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I think it's more he doesn't care that it's unacceptable rather than doesn't know, he's definitely been told atleast twice that it's unacceptable yet still choose to use the word again

It's nothing like the word 'n----r' which is generally agreed to be an offensive term (there is no question about that).

There is probably no greater authority on the subject of 'Black' race relations than Martin Luther King. His preferred term for his own race was the word 'Negro'.

Even the US census of 2010 uses the word 'Negro' as a racial category - during Obama's presidency no less!

So when and why did it suddenly become a 'racist' term? Just for this new series of BB??

I think Ken, like most people, regarded it as a legitmate racial term such as 'hispanic' or 'caucasian', just as they are all used as racial categories in the offical US census of 2010.

This series of BB is the first time i have ever heard it considered offensive by anyone.

So if you think Ken is to be considered 'racist' simply by using that word, then it follows you must also regard both Martin Luther King AND Obama's government as racist too just for their use of the same word.

Bearing in mind they are probably the two most respected and loved Black figures in modern political/social history. it just doesn't make sense to me.

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Usual suspects in the 'it's just outdated' section - leathertrumpet, the truth.. :hehe:

Racist against his own race.. yes that seems perfectly logical.

Nail on head.