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bots 19-01-2015 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 7509186)
Mmm honestly I think this is being made too much of, near on every series there is someone who gets the mick taken out of them a bit for being an 'airhead' or a 'bimbo', people never seem to have so many qualms about noting the stupidity of TOWIE contestants. Joey Essex has dyslexia as well but most people still thought it was ridiculous that he couldn't tell the time and that he thought Richard and Judy created the world. Remember as well that Alicia also accused Katie of being thick.

There is a difference, if its done maliciously, its not funny and its not pleasant. Also, it depends on the person. On this occasion, it is getting quite nasty. Similar to when they were being nasty to Gary last series with his deafness, it wasn't right.

Drew. 19-01-2015 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7508982)
Dyslexia is definitely NOT all about reading/writing it can affect memory, reaction, concentration and a lot more.

So basically for certain housemates to keep mocking Alicia for being slow or thick etc especially to her face is beyond disgusting.

:clap1:

Jason. 19-01-2015 11:22 PM

http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-1...annoying-abits

Shocked at how bitchy and two-faced Calum's becoming. As for Michelle. I really don't understand how she's the most popular housemate whilst she treats people like ****.

Disgusting behaviour.

MTVN 19-01-2015 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by power2thepeople (Post 7509291)
I can see the point but Joey Essex is quite comfortable with this and many of these moments are on shows such as Celebrity Juice. He is loved for it and it's obviously his choice to draw attention to some of the gaps in his knowledge or he wouldn't play the quiz games. There is no sneering atmosphere that goes with it. It's almost embraced as a lovely quality to him and not used to berate him with? Actually, It would have been interesting to see someone such as Joey go in to see the reaction from HM's to his 'knowledge'? But point taken.

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 7509313)
There is a difference, if its done maliciously, its not funny and its not pleasant. Also, it depends on the person. On this occasion, it is getting quite nasty. Similar to when they were being nasty to Gary last series with his deafness, it wasn't right.

Well it's a fair enough point I suppose, can hold my hands up and say I have called her stupid without really thinking through any difficulties she might have had etc. We don't know the full story of her background and experiences but that is true with all of them: we can't know the full story of why the housemates are who they are so I'm not sure we can expect them to assume that Alicia had learning difficulties or assume that her school and parents were not supportive enough. Honestly if I heard that a woman in her 30s didn't know the alphabet my first thought would be to ask why she didn't take the time to learn something so fundamental. If I thought that someone wasn't following what I was saying my first thought would more likely be that they aren't listening closely enough and that they're not paying enough attention. Also I do feel that for everyone there is some level of personal responsibility for education, it's sad that her school didn't support her but there's been nothing stopping her pursuing education since then especially because she's fortunate to not have had money issues. Obviously she is capable of learning the alphabet because she has done now but why did it take her till in her 30s to do so? I think the same about Joey Essex, I don't really agree with him having his stupidity as one of his selling points. If he truly didn't know how to tell the time, if he truly did think the world was made by Richard and Judy, then something has gone wrong with that kid's schooling

Headie 20-01-2015 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7509005)

It's an old article from when she was on love island

Headie 20-01-2015 06:23 AM

Btw I wasn't saying having dyslexia makes you stupid, I was saying I feel sorry for Alicia being called stupid all the time because I bet she gets easily frustrated when she finds things more difficult than others.

Headie 20-01-2015 06:25 AM

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Katie Hopkins once again blasted Alicia for being “stupid” after model revealed she apparently didn’t know the alphabet or “math”.

“She can’t function,” Michelle Visage commented.
:(

Cherie 20-01-2015 06:28 AM

Whether she has a learning difficulty or not it is not very nice to mock her either to her face or behind her back, and just because she has sold stories doesn't make it right either. Most of them mocking her have probably done alot worse in their time.

Cherie 20-01-2015 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Hayden (Post 7509750)
:(

Alot of adults leave school without being able to read or write a sad situation for our education system, maybe Hopkins could do some good and tweet about that.

Cherie 20-01-2015 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 7509186)
Mmm honestly I think this is being made too much of, near on every series there is someone who gets the mick taken out of them a bit for being an 'airhead' or a 'bimbo', people never seem to have so many qualms about noting the stupidity of TOWIE contestants. Joey Essex has dyslexia as well but most people still thought it was ridiculous that he couldn't tell the time and that he thought Richard and Judy created the world. Remember as well that Alicia also accused Katie of being thick.

Nobody ridiculed him though that is the difference, it was considered "adorable"etc etc

jennyjuniper 20-01-2015 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Hayden (Post 7508935)
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Douval...t.-a0151488956

Feel really sorry for her being called thick and stupid by all the other housemates :(

To start with, Alicia is 35 not 27. She didn't bring up Georgia until she was 7, because Alicia's mother wouldn't let her, due to Alicia's lifestyle.
Alicia is very good at making people feel sorry for her. She spun that storyline to Cheggers, who bless him, fell for it. He went round telling the others that 'poor Alicia' is a young mum struggling to bring up her kids and get her skincare range going from her garage.
In reality she lives with/off a rich man, who is financing her skincare range.
Dyslexia can be very debilitating and I genuinely feel sorry for people who have this condition. BUT with hard work and perserverance, some of the difficulties associated with that condition can be overcome.
I think Alicia is the type to want things easy and to put the blame squarely on someone else's shoulders when things go wrong.

empire 20-01-2015 07:03 AM

some of the greatest inventors in the world have Dyslexia, bill gates is one of them,knowledge is the key factor in learning. people have this bad obsession with being smart,cami made herself look like a right tit for saying words like dumb and thick, for her age she acts like a 14 year old,

jennyjuniper 20-01-2015 07:09 AM

If Alicia is dyslexic, surely she would have been delighted that her eldest daughter is a clever girl who wanted to go to uni and have a career? Instead this bimbo wanted her to leave school at 16, have a boob job and marry a rich man!!

Tip 20-01-2015 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jennyjuniper (Post 7509772)
If Alicia is dyslexic, surely she would have been delighted that her eldest daughter is a clever girl who wanted to go to uni and have a career? Instead this bimbo wanted her to leave school at 16, have a boob job and marry a rich man!!

Yes, it's strange isn't it. Once upon a time such thinking was culturally normal and some fought hard for things to change.

Nonetheless this kind of thinking still exists quite widely, I've even seen it increasing again as people with degrees weren't finding secure employment necessarily.

mizzy25 20-01-2015 07:59 AM

I thought she was way older than 27. She seems generally quite slow.

Josy 20-01-2015 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mizzy25 (Post 7509819)
I thought she was way older than 27. She seems generally quite slow.

She is Mizzy, she's 35 iirc it's just an article from when she was 27..

ebandit 20-01-2015 08:07 AM

d
 
ah? the d card...................i'm hanging my head in shame for poking

fun it dizzy alicia

stooopid as stooopid is...................i'm not the only one

Mark L

anne666 20-01-2015 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7509127)
It's still disgusting though

Exactly. Dyslexic or not. Nothing excuses their cruel childishness. What would we say to our children treating anyone in this manner?
They are supposed to be adults.
For what it's worth I think she is dyslexic and it's often something the sufferer feels shame about and doesn't want those around them to know. She will have missed huge chunks of basic education, which we all take for granted and dyslexia that has nothing to do with lack of intellect. Often quite the reverse. She certainly hasn't any problems in discerning the characters of the HM's and has far more insight than most of them.

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Dyslexi.../Symptoms.aspx



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Signs and symptoms
Dyslexia is a spectrum disorder, with symptoms ranging from mild to severe. People with dyslexia have particular difficulty with:
phonological awareness
verbal memory
rapid serial naming
verbal processing speed

Associated symptoms of dyslexia
Some people with dyslexia also have other problems not directly connected to reading or writing, such as:
difficulties with numbers (dyscalculia)
poor short-term memory
problems concentrating and a short attention span
poor organisation and time-management
physical coordination problems (dyspraxia)

Niamh. 20-01-2015 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7509111)
Continuously saying that to anyone's face is disgusting, without even bringing dyslexia into it...so if they do know then that's even worse.

Absolutely agree, I don't get this new way of thinking it's fine to be nasty and insulting to people because you're "just being honest" when did that happen? What ever happened to manners and treating people with a bit of respect and having a bit of tact so you don't make a person feel like a worthless piece of s**t? I feel bad for Alicia because by the sound of things she's said, that kind of thing started for her from when she was a kid, by her own father, it's no wonder she ended up a little messed up

anne666 20-01-2015 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jennyjuniper (Post 7509772)
If Alicia is dyslexic, surely she would have been delighted that her eldest daughter is a clever girl who wanted to go to uni and have a career? Instead this bimbo wanted her to leave school at 16, have a boob job and marry a rich man!!

That was a few years ago and I agree it was shocking to watch.. She sought help for her body dysmorphia/surgery addiction because of her daughter. It's a pity this is still being used to put her down along with the hilarious for naughty kids "thick" tag.. People with addictions often aren't rational and behave destructively towards themselves and others. No-one butchers themselves in that way if they are healthy.
Dyslexia sufferers can go on to develop all manner of disorders because of the non acceptance, lack of self esteem and the ridicule they often have to cope with. Even now getting the correct support for dyslexia at school age is a battle and impossible in some areas.

Sadly she was a pretty young girl. I question surgeons without morals who capitalise on women like her.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/c...alicia-4939828

anne666 20-01-2015 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jennyjuniper (Post 7509761)
To start with, Alicia is 35 not 27. She didn't bring up Georgia until she was 7, because Alicia's mother wouldn't let her, due to Alicia's lifestyle.
Alicia is very good at making people feel sorry for her. She spun that storyline to Cheggers, who bless him, fell for it. He went round telling the others that 'poor Alicia' is a young mum struggling to bring up her kids and get her skincare range going from her garage.
In reality she lives with/off a rich man, who is financing her skincare range.
Dyslexia can be very debilitating and I genuinely feel sorry for people who have this condition. BUT with hard work and perserverance, some of the difficulties associated with that condition can be overcome.
I think Alicia is the type to want things easy and to put the blame squarely on someone else's shoulders when things go wrong.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/c...ouvall-5006666

Shaun 20-01-2015 09:54 AM

Eh, whilst Katie has indeed called her thick isn't most of the criticism aimed at Alicia more to do with her emotional intelligence? i.e. buying Perez's BS

I'm not sure that's anything to do with dyslexia.

Pincho Paxton 20-01-2015 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by empire (Post 7509768)
some of the greatest inventors in the world have Dyslexia, bill gates is one of them,knowledge is the key factor in learning. people have this bad obsession with being smart,cami made herself look like a right tit for saying words like dumb and thick, for her age she acts like a 14 year old,

Bill Gates stole his idea off someone else, so that doesn't count.

Tarryn 20-01-2015 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jennyjuniper (Post 7509761)
To start with, Alicia is 35 not 27. She didn't bring up Georgia until she was 7, because Alicia's mother wouldn't let her, due to Alicia's lifestyle.
Alicia is very good at making people feel sorry for her. She spun that storyline to Cheggers, who bless him, fell for it. He went round telling the others that 'poor Alicia' is a young mum struggling to bring up her kids and get her skincare range going from her garage.
In reality she lives with/off a rich man, who is financing her skincare range.
Dyslexia can be very debilitating and I genuinely feel sorry for people who have this condition. BUT with hard work and perserverance, some of the difficulties associated with that condition can be overcome.
I think Alicia is the type to want things easy and to put the blame squarely on someone else's shoulders when things go wrong.

But others are judging Katie H for how she is IN the house when we all know how nasty she is OUTSIDE the house.
So why are we judging Alicia on outside ?.
Let's face it, most of those Celebs have something in their past which is not nice.
Are you perfect ?. No person is.

Josy 20-01-2015 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 7509983)
Eh, whilst Katie has indeed called her thick isn't most of the criticism aimed at Alicia more to do with her emotional intelligence? i.e. buying Perez's BS

I'm not sure that's anything to do with dyslexia.

They were calling her 'thick' 'slow' etc before the Perez dramas though

Josy 20-01-2015 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7509923)
Absolutely agree, I don't get this new way of thinking it's fine to be nasty and insulting to people because you're "just being honest" when did that happen? What ever happened to manners and treating people with a bit of respect and having a bit of tact so you don't make a person feel like a worthless piece of s**t? I feel bad for Alicia because by the sound of things she's said, that kind of thing started for her from when she was a kid, by her own father, it's no wonder she ended up a little messed up

I agree with this, plenty of people have not so nice thoughts about others but being brought up with as you say respect and manners we know when to keep our mouth shut and keep our not so nice thoughts to ourselves.

Tarryn 20-01-2015 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7509923)
Absolutely agree, I don't get this new way of thinking it's fine to be nasty and insulting to people because you're "just being honest" when did that happen? What ever happened to manners and treating people with a bit of respect and having a bit of tact so you don't make a person feel like a worthless piece of s**t? I feel bad for Alicia because by the sound of things she's said, that kind of thing started for her from when she was a kid, by her own father, it's no wonder she ended up a little messed up

It's nice to know there are other people out there who think like this.
Give me a good, well mannered person any day over people like Katie H.


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