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Northern Monkey 21-01-2015 12:13 AM

Meh.Who needs alphabets when horrible plastic tits make you money.

rionablue 21-01-2015 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 7513022)
I have dyslexia, all through high school I had to be segregated in IT because I had to have a special screen to type on I had to go sit in a different class room with people who had been chucked out of class for bad behaviour because numbers on a page or a board looked like they were dancing in my head. I am very aware of what dyslexia is and how it effects you.

I'm sorry but it does nor excuse some of the idiot things Alicia has said, she clearly told us she learned the alphabet through teaching her kids. She could have taken the time to educate herself a long time ago. Basically she's what I despise in dyslexia sufferers, she makes us look lazy. Nobodys the same obviously but seeing as she has eventually learned she most likely used being dyslexic as an excuse to be lazy. I worked very hard to get to the reading and writing level I am.

Good post Amy Jade and well done.

rionablue 21-01-2015 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 7513500)
You'd just think that someone with the body issues that she has had would be a bit more sympathetic about it all, rather than making out anyone who has doesn't have massive breasts is leading a life not worth living. Some people are naturally quite flat chested, some women are forced to have mastectomys, its crazy for her to claim that you need boobs to be fulfilled in life. It's no doubt the same thinking of hers which meant she encouraged her daughter to have a boob job as well when she didn't want one - tat ain't right Mock.

I agree on that one MTVN. EIGHTEEN boob jobs was disgusting if I am honest. The girl has serious issues. And it looks like she is still not completely happy with them

Marsh. 21-01-2015 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by rionablue (Post 7513658)
I agree on that one MTVN. EIGHTEEN boob jobs was disgusting if I am honest. The girl has serious issues. And it looks like she is still not completely happy with them

It's called body dysmorphia. Which she is recovering from, hence having all the implants from her face removed.

Heaven = Winner 21-01-2015 12:45 AM

I mean I feel bad for her and all, but she does still say some really stupid **** that just goes way, way beyond the dyslexia. Like the whole "I'd rather die than have no tits" comment :/

Josy 21-01-2015 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 7513441)
I won't get into dyslexia because I admit I'm not qualified to talk or speculate about it but I'm sorry, comments like "I'd want to die if I didn't have boobs" do just display a genuine ignorance and narcissism that is very worrying. It's like someone said on another thread her emotional immaturity is pretty staggering and a view like that can be quite damaging. I'd also be pretty concerned about her daughter's education that she seems quite set on home schooling her herself which really does not seem like adequate education. I know her daughter is only 3 right now but she seemed to be implying it was something she was going to be continuing with for a while, and she says she can't afford to send her to school when education is free to every child - even 3 year olds are eligible for free early education. The things she comes out with are just baffling in so many ways which extends beyond a learning difficulty

I don't agree with the thick comments and calling her slow things like that, that said I agree with pretty much everything you have said in your post apart from the boobs comment because I think that could possibly be down to the body dysmorphia?

And the comments I have made about dyslexia in this thread and others are definitely NOT to defend everything Alicia has said and done in the house.

The comment about having to home school her daughter just did not make sense to me, how can you 'not afford' to send your child to school when schools are free and by the sounds of it the child would have a better education there?

DemolitionRed 21-01-2015 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 7512935)
Yeah, I get people don't like her, but the fact they feel the need (in the house and on the forums) to be rude about an actual disorder she has is disgusting.

Good initial post Benjamin...thank you, but unfortunately its not going to shame those who said it. Fortunately some of us were brought up not to mock the afflicted and if we do have something to say, to at least educate ourselves first.

MTVN made a comment about her being narcissistic. Alicia is as far away from narcissism as the rest of us are from Mars. There clearly are narcissists in the house but Alicia isn't one of them.

DemolitionRed 21-01-2015 08:59 AM

Alicia had one thing that made her feel accepted (as far as she's concerned) and that's a nice body and a once pretty face. In desperation to keep that acceptance going she got body dysmorphia which in time reeked havoc on her looks. Her breasts are still an important asset for her, as they are for many women. Some women with breast cancer have to go through counselling because, as crazy as this may sound, for many women, losing breast tissue is worse than the cancer itself.

Crimson Dynamo 21-01-2015 09:02 AM

her "boobs" are disgusting

MTVN 21-01-2015 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7514005)
I don't agree with the thick comments and calling her slow things like that, that said I agree with pretty much everything you have said in your post apart from the boobs comment because I think that could possibly be down to the body dysmorphia?

And the comments I have made about dyslexia in this thread and others are definitely NOT to defend everything Alicia has said and done in the house.

The comment about having to home school her daughter just did not make sense to me, how can you 'not afford' to send your child to school when schools are free and by the sounds of it the child would have a better education there?

It might be but she's been in rehab 3/4 times(?), she's realised how destructive her plastic surgery addiction was, she's had most of it out now and she says she's happy with herself. Crazy to have had all those experiences and still come out with comments like that

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 7514029)
Good initial post Benjamin...thank you, but unfortunately its not going to shame those who said it. Fortunately some of us were brought up not to mock the afflicted and if we do have something to say, to at least educate ourselves first.

MTVN made a comment about her being narcissistic. Alicia is as far away from narcissism as the rest of us are from Mars. There clearly are narcissists in the house but Alicia isn't one of them.

Why not? Narcissism is just an obsession with your own image and vanity, I'm guessing you would say she isn't narcissistic because she's quite mentally fragile and not that confident in herself but that doesn't preclude narcissism

Philanthropite 21-01-2015 05:27 PM

lol I'm not here to take either side but I have to point out that SHE herself said she learnt the Alphabet within the last 3 years, implying she only just got around to learning them, not that she couldn't learn them due to dyslexia. I don't necessarily think she's thick though just not taught properly. It's a sad truth that there are still many adult men and woman who struggle to read and write and it's institutions we should be pointing our fingers at. I'm not saying they are the root cause mind you because lazy people do exist but Alicia doesn't strike me as lazy because shes trying her best for her kid/s

Pincho Paxton 21-01-2015 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Philanthropite (Post 7515236)
SHE herself said she learnt the Alphabet within the last 3 years, implying she only just got around to learning them, not that she couldn't learn them due to dyslexia.

A bit odd though without dyslexia.

Jason. 21-01-2015 05:46 PM

I think Luisa was spot on, during BOTS.
She said she doesn't understand why Alicia is ridiculed, as she can't afford to send her child to school, and takes her own time to help her and teach, even though she isn't exactly the most intelligent person.

She then made a spot on point about how mothers would usually just dismiss the problem and leave their children uneducated.
:clap1:

DemolitionRed 21-01-2015 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 7514228)

Why not? Narcissism is just an obsession with your own image and vanity, I'm guessing you would say she isn't narcissistic because she's quite mentally fragile and not that confident in herself but that doesn't preclude narcissism

There is a whole lot more to Narcissistic personality disorder than self obsession. If any one of us went down the long list of Narcissistic character traits, every one of us would tick off a few boxes but those few boxes are meaningless.

No I'm not saying she isn't narcissistic because she's mentally fragile. Mental fragility is very much a trait of a narcissist.

jennyjuniper 22-01-2015 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7513006)
Where does it say Alicia HAS dyslexia,as I have read some stuff on the net and no where does it say she has it and we all know she tells porkies.

That thought had crossed my mind.

jennyjuniper 22-01-2015 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MB. (Post 7513019)
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Douval...t.-a0151488956

But because you don't like her, that means she's lying. Right.

And because you do like her you believe every word.?

Josy 22-01-2015 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BB6 (Post 7515301)
I think Luisa was spot on, during BOTS.
She said she doesn't understand why Alicia is ridiculed, as she can't afford to send her child to school, and takes her own time to help her and teach, even though she isn't exactly the most intelligent person.

She then made a spot on point about how mothers would usually just dismiss the problem and leave their children uneducated.
:clap1:

Or they would send them to one of the many schools that are provided free of charge?

kirklancaster 22-01-2015 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7513061)
Don't get your knickers in a twist,just because you like her,I don't like her , but ,all I said was I couldn't find the story on it, and she has proven to lie so I am bound to be dubious,if she has it fair enough,but as Amy Jade said it's no reason to be dim.

I totally agree with you Kaz:

I don’t hate Alicia Douvall, nor even dislike her, but it is my opinion that she is the most cunning, devious, fake, manipulating game-player in the house.

She attended the “top boarding school in the country” and has had the guile and intelligence to forge a career out of nothing, form and run a business, and earn great amounts of money and make herself famous, yet she continues to play the uneducated 'dim', dumb blond role.

We have only her word that she suffers from Dyslexia because the link provided only leads to an article in which Alicia is merely quoted as saying that she suffers from Dyslexia, which is like saying;

“I’m a Martian, but if you don’t believe me, here is a statement signed by me in which I state that I’m a Martian.”

She attended a Surrey boarding school which is the 'top' one in the country so can we presume that she hails from a wealthy background and from the type of family who would call in specialist doctors if their child started to display any kind of learning difficulties? I would think as much, which confuses me as to why she 'struggled' through most of her life with her affliction undiagnosed.

As an unmarried mum she went into a hostel when her business failed, and again 'struggled'. So dare I ask why her wealthy family did not rally around their daughter and support her?

If anyone has any real proof at all that she is, indeed, suffering from dyslexia, in the form of articles about her being professionally diagnosed as suffering from it, or similar, then I will apologise, but I’m afraid that my own strong opinion is that she does not suffer from dyslexia, or from slow thought processes, and that she is playing the game which she has played for a long time on reality shows.

Joey Essex has become very wealthy and very famous playing the totally dim idiot which is a huge exaggeration of his real self - a caricature if you like - but Joey has a cheeky gleam in his eye whilst doing so, and does not really expect us to swallow his act.

By contrast, Alicia, is trying so very hard to convince us to accept whichever role she is playing at the moment, which - having already played the bullied victim role - is now the bullied, 'dim' and unlearned' because of my misunderstood affliction' role.

I can't accept it, because I have witnessed many incidents in the house where she has not only displayed great mental awareness, but also a good standard of knowledge, in addition to an above average ability to rationalise, and even philosophise. All of which is in direct contradiction to some members claims on here that she is genuinely just ‘a bit slow on the uptake’, and ‘a bit behind the others due to her learning difficulties’ etc.

For example: when Alicia was seated with some others she asked; “What is 8 x 8”, then instantly reproached Katie H when she answered “64”. Now having posed the question, one can assume that Alicia knew the answer, and reproaching Katie as she did would suggest that she knew that ‘64’ was the correct answer, which support that assumption.

Now all this makes a nonsense of any claim that Alicia is dim or slow, even though she quickly tried to cover her ‘faux pas’ by quickly claiming that she “didn’t know the answer” – an act which in itself proves excellent agility of mind.

Again, when Alicia was seated with the two Katies, with Keith, Kav and Callum in close attendance, and they were discussing food, Alicia described Coke as: ‘pure man-made synthetic chemicals’ – implying a decent vocabulary and a good command of English, as well as a degree of knowledge. She went on to say to Katie H: “If you researched just what was in your bread” – which again implies learnt (acquired) knowledge, if not even that she herself had researched what ‘was in bread’. Either way, it suggests an ability to absorb, understand, and store and recall data, and contradicts any notion that there is anything wrong with her mental faculties.

During the same conversation, she even exhibited a great ability to rationalise and philosophise, and displayed very quick cognitive thought processing when Kav said; “What about people who live to be 80 odd and eat what they want to?" and she very quickly explained; “We’re a new generation so people who are 60, 70, 80, ate natural food because ....they had no choice.” And also: “We are the new generation of microwave meals, synthetic foods, and that’s why we’re all ill”.

I realise that there are many forms of Dyslexia, and that suffering from it does not automatically render someone as unintelligent, or as slow or dumb, but it is Alicia herself who claims to be dyslexic and she herself who has portrayed herself as ‘a little bit slow’ because of it.

I’m sorry but I do not buy into any of it.

Dia 22-01-2015 02:20 PM



bots 22-01-2015 02:26 PM

Its been widely reported that Calum had a relationship with her previously. If she was different now from then, I think he would have called her out as being fake. I also think its a bit rich for him to be ridiculing her for being slow given he has had that previous relationship. I would much rather she was saved than him

Crimson Dynamo 22-01-2015 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 7517727)
I totally agree with you Kaz:

I don’t hate Alicia Douvall, nor even dislike her, but it is my opinion that she is the most cunning, devious, fake, manipulating game-player in the house.

She attended the “top boarding school in the country” and has had the guile and intelligence to forge a career out of nothing, form and run a business, and earn great amounts of money and make herself famous, yet she continues to play the uneducated 'dim', dumb blond role.

We have only her word that she suffers from Dyslexia because the link provided only leads to an article in which Alicia is merely quoted as saying that she suffers from Dyslexia, which is like saying;

“I’m a Martian, but if you don’t believe me, here is a statement signed by me in which I state that I’m a Martian.”

She attended a Surrey boarding school which is the 'top' one in the country so can we presume that she hails from a wealthy background and from the type of family who would call in specialist doctors if their child started to display any kind of learning difficulties? I would think as much, which confuses me as to why she 'struggled' through most of her life with her affliction undiagnosed.

As an unmarried mum she went into a hostel when her business failed, and again 'struggled'. So dare I ask why her wealthy family did not rally around their daughter and support her?

If anyone has any real proof at all that she is, indeed, suffering from dyslexia, in the form of articles about her being professionally diagnosed as suffering from it, or similar, then I will apologise, but I’m afraid that my own strong opinion is that she does not suffer from dyslexia, or from slow thought processes, and that she is playing the game which she has played for a long time on reality shows.

Joey Essex has become very wealthy and very famous playing the totally dim idiot which is a huge exaggeration of his real self - a caricature if you like - but Joey has a cheeky gleam in his eye whilst doing so, and does not really expect us to swallow his act.

By contrast, Alicia, is trying so very hard to convince us to accept whichever role she is playing at the moment, which - having already played the bullied victim role - is now the bullied, 'dim' and unlearned' because of my misunderstood affliction' role.

I can't accept it, because I have witnessed many incidents in the house where she has not only displayed great mental awareness, but also a good standard of knowledge, in addition to an above average ability to rationalise, and even philosophise. All of which is in direct contradiction to some members claims on here that she is genuinely just ‘a bit slow on the uptake’, and ‘a bit behind the others due to her learning difficulties’ etc.


For example: when Alicia was seated with some others she asked; “What is 8 x 8”, then instantly reproached Katie H when she answered “64”. Now having posed the question, one can assume that Alicia knew the answer, and reproaching Katie as she did would suggest that she knew that ‘64’ was the correct answer, which support that assumption.

Now all this makes a nonsense of any claim that Alicia is dim or slow, even though she quickly tried to cover her ‘faux pas’ by quickly claiming that she “didn’t know the answer” – an act which in itself proves excellent agility of mind.

Again, when Alicia was seated with the two Katies, with Keith, Kav and Callum in close attendance, and they were discussing food, Alicia described Coke as: ‘pure man-made synthetic chemicals’ – implying a decent vocabulary and a good command of English, as well as a degree of knowledge. She went on to say to Katie H: “If you researched just what was in your bread” – which again implies learnt (acquired) knowledge, if not even that she herself had researched what ‘was in bread’. Either way, it suggests an ability to absorb, understand, and store and recall data, and contradicts any notion that there is anything wrong with her mental faculties.

During the same conversation, she even exhibited a great ability to rationalise and philosophise, and displayed very quick cognitive thought processing when Kav said; “What about people who live to be 80 odd and eat what they want to?" and she very quickly explained; “We’re a new generation so people who are 60, 70, 80, ate natural food because ....they had no choice.” And also: “We are the new generation of microwave meals, synthetic foods, and that’s why we’re all ill”.

I realise that there are many forms of Dyslexia, and that suffering from it does not automatically render someone as unintelligent, or as slow or dumb, but it is Alicia herself who claims to be dyslexic and she herself who has portrayed herself as ‘a little bit slow’ because of it.

I’m sorry but I do not buy into any of it.

I am giving that the Kirk 3 handclaps

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

susie q 22-01-2015 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 7512910)
Such a shame she wasn't given more attention when she was younger.

I wonder if she has ever been diagnosed or if she has self diagnosed.
Took years for my daughter to get her diagnosis, schools were not really interested or capable at the time.

I have an older sister, now in her 60s who has it. She had dreadful time at school duriing the 50s&60s, and was eventually put in a special school for subnormal children! Fortunately for her we had caring (but poor)parents who took her out of it and set up an apprenticeship with textile firm. where she trained and became a very skilled seamstress, a job she continued with until retirement a couple years ago. She was eventually diagnosed in her mid forties
when she went to adult literacy classes to try and improve things, the class helped her a lot. I think its disgraceful that Alicias shool/parents didnt do anything for her. :shrug:

kirklancaster 22-01-2015 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7518141)
I am giving that the Kirk 3 handclaps

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

I have died and gone to LT heaven. :dance::laugh:


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