But what about when it's happening the other way? Which is how it started out and I'm not being biased because at the time I noticed it I was supporting Alicia.

And yet you think that Perez isn't being bullied by KH and Michelle?

Come on be fair here.

What about the constant goading, sleep depriving an old man by coughing all night not two feet from his bed? showing lack of respect. constantly blowing kisses and sticking his tongue between two fingers and simulating oral sex to Alexander when they were just sat chilling out on the sofas.
That's just what they showed us!

What he said in anger was wrong, no argument, but why did Perez target Alexander in the first place? Is he racist?

This :clap1:
Alex complained about Perez breathing over his food because Perez had a virus and Alex thought it was disgusting someone doing that on purpose when they were ill.

The only thing there that Perez did wrong was the coughing, everything else was an overreaction on Alexander's part imo.

As opposed to constantly making excuses for Perez behaviour regardless of how innapropriate and outladish it is. To quote former contest George Galloway "you're two cheeks of the same arse"

Perez sensed a weakness in Alexander and went hard after it. Is alex right? no. Is perez right for goading it into him, no. Does that make alex a homophobe, not at all. Alex was already set off by Ken... I grew up a few hours west of Minneapolis in the US(where Alexander was from), as an American we do not ever say either N word as both are considered extremely offensive anywhere you go in the US. I understand Alex's reaction as a white male living in the US. Alex had a short temper for anyone saying/doing something offensive to him and it cost him, he was right to leave before more damage was done on his part. But to act like no one played on that is ridiculous. Perez knew what he was doing with the tonguing and blown kisses. Exactly what he was doing, he makes a living off pressing buttons and getting people to bite FFS.

Alex couldn't cope with BB this time around - I can't see the point in blame - it's a game show with extreme characters -if you can't control your aggression then go. Leave it to those who have more self control.

Someone upsets somebody else most times in BB. They don't all walk and if they did there would be no programme.

Perez coughing was intentionally annoying and silly - but it was at 6:30 in the morning? Not all night?

Alex may be elderly but he isn't at retirement age - he's a working man, and our world is full of people his age and considerably older that are up and and about working - they don't have to be treated as if they are all feeble and in need of care homes.

Yes, Perez annoyed Alex. Perez goaded Alex. Alex couldn't deal with it in a controlled fashion so did the wisest thing and left. Somebody else could well have dealt with a great deal better. Alex is the one to take responsibility for his response.

You are very correct in what you say. The only thing that really stands out to me is this: Michelle Visage is a champion of gay rights, and she took the "homophobe's" side. I did not know who she was until this series (and I live in the US and I'm a straight male), but that speaks volumes for me. It makes me wonder what really went on.... I do not think she is just a shill for Katie H as this happened pretty early in the series. Alex acted wrong, Ken acted wrong, the baywatch guy may have acted wrong (no visual evidence).... but the common denominator is Perez. He pushes buttons better than anyone, which is exactly how he became famous in the US in the first place. His act is old here and I imagine abroad as well....

:clap1: nice post :D

And this is the woman who would have us believe is open and honest!! Bollocks. Alexander didn't say much, but he didn't miss much either and he sussed Nadia and Perez out, which is why Perez wanted rid of him.

How can you not laugh when you say that. Talk about lack of restraint....we are talking about Perez here aren't we?

:cheer2: Exactly. Perez has been playing from the start. Ken and especially Alex had not a clue to the charade, they acted on impulse and fed into his BS first. What I cannot figure is if Nadia knew this all along and only wants to leave with her check or not....:blush:

Sure Perez goaded Alex which it seems likely resulted in Alex leaving, but Ken and Jeremy, come off it. Unless it was Perez in disguise in the bathroom with Cloe, or Perez somehow forced Ken to use the "n" word twice.

I can't comment on Michelle and the "homophobe" comment, what she does and why, whether he is a homophobe or not didn't feature in how I saw the Alex's departure and the need for people to "blame". I'm not interested in the "side" taking, just the need to blame.

If Perez is so well known for pushing buttons and his act is old, then I guess Alex had a good idea of what he might be letting himself in for but he still couldn't actually cope.

If there was a challenge to not let someone push your buttons to the point that you get physically aggressive - then I guess Alex wouldn't have met that one. I probably couldn't live with Perez either, but as Katie H says, man up accept that the challenge was bigger than you could cope with. Take responsibility.

Ken using the N word was completely not ok in the slightest, but I could understand it from about a 70+ year old... I could also definitely see why Alex reacted the way he did when Ken said it to him. You do not say that and Alex told him it would "get his ass beat" where he was from. Understandably, as a white male growing up not far from where Alex did, it makes perfect sense. But if anyone sent ken into a rage it was Perez, not Alex or anyone else. "irrelevant American" was spot on by Ken I may not recall correctly, but I believe Perez was very near the Chloe situation before the accusation part. He loves to be the center of attention, but you are correct the situation did not have much to do with Perez. The common theme was that Perez didn't feel "safe" with Jeremy, Ken, or Alex... which is what the remaining housemates picked up on...

Perez is well known by people under 30 in the US. Alex wouldn't have a clue who he was especially since Alex's star had faded long, long ago. But you are correct, Alex couldn't hack it which is why he left. I honestly believe he would have hit Perez after a couple more days. He couldn't take the taunting or disrespect even if it was just a game. He didn't get it, but Perez sure did.

And Katie H is right :)

There was more to it than Perez saying he didn't feel safe. Alexander had issues that have never been disclosed. His departure was very swift and BB might have had a good reason to do this.

I have my suspicions but like Nadia, prefer to remain tight lipped on it.

Alexander had no problem being near Perez before Perez started baiting him.

Alexander didn't get Perez, the reason he left.

It's a generation gap Alexander couldn't reach over. Its possible he felt he couldn't stay in the house a minute longer.

Perez told Big Brother that he felt unsafe in the house with Jeremy around.

Big Brother had no choice but to take him seriously.