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daniel-lewis-1985 29-01-2015 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Conzors (Post 7543142)
Why would they think i'm prefending to be gay? Lol


This isnt a forum about researching the 1980's. I'm going by what she has said in the house, one which is that Perez sets the gay community back 50 years (when what she represents is a very similer prospect) and another is how she was explaining why she's friends with Kav - 'because, you know, the gay thing' were her exact words, which is totally contradictive as she hates Perez so 'the gay thing' cannot be used to describe why you are friends with someone. She is full of inconsistancies.

I have respect her and have no doubt that she has done this work previously in order to support homosexuality etc, but she, personally represents the drag queen community, so being gay has nothing to do with that community.

I'm not even going to continue this debate.

Have a great day.

Beso 29-01-2015 09:25 AM

she is the mirror image of who she actually thinks she is...not cool or tolerant at all.

InOne 29-01-2015 09:27 AM

Yes I don't like the whole their struggle is my struggle bollocks. And why is she so desperate to finish above Perez? Does he not fit into her category of how a Gay person should behave? Maybe his self-confidence bothers her. It's like she think all Gay people are weak and need protecting by her. Her ego is insane, she really needs to get over herself.

Vanessa 29-01-2015 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 7543399)
Yes I don't like the whole their struggle is my struggle bollocks. And why is she so desperate to finish above Perez? Does he not fit into her category of how a Gay person should behave? Maybe his self-confidence bothers her. It's like she think all Gay people are weak and need protecting by her. Her ego is insane, she really needs to get over herself.

:clap2:

sampvt 29-01-2015 09:30 AM

What I thought was hilarious was the fact that Biggins actually thought she was a drag queen herself. Lou lou had to tell him she was actually a woman AND BIGGINS IS GAY, lol.

ebandit 29-01-2015 09:37 AM

gay
 
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Originally Posted by Conzors (Post 7542722)
Everyone is allowed to comment.
I'm gay, but not a drag queen yet im commenting on them
x


........today i'm in a gay mood and i see michelle in it for herself...........on

the backs of others

Mark

-Sue- 29-01-2015 09:51 AM

I didn't know of Michelle before CBB but on entrance was hoping she would be a fun filled feisty lady - but have to be honest she hasn't made me laugh at all I haven't heard much of who she is I know what she stands for/ fights for but that is really it. The rest I have seen has been mostly nasty comments about HMs usually behind their back not the HM I was hoping for a big dissapointment sorry

she spouts LGBT but she seems to show very little tolerance for others even to the point of calling perez 'that' I mean come on he is a person! When KH made her comment about 'It's a job' I didn't hear Michelle stand up for them either!

Vanessa 29-01-2015 09:58 AM

She was pathetic, crying last night. I wanna be in the final with my fwuends! URGH! What a letdown she is. Fiesty woman my arse! :nono:

-Sue- 29-01-2015 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 7543477)
She was pathetic, crying last night. I wanna be in the final with my fwuends! URGH! What a letdown she is. Fiesty woman my arse! :nono:

Exactly where is her fun filled character? is she able to have a laugh without it being at someone else's expense?

Vanessa 29-01-2015 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by -Sue- (Post 7543484)
Exactly where is her fun filled character? is she able to have a laugh without it being at someone else's expense?

She finally realised it was the Perez Show! :joker:

Liam- 29-01-2015 10:04 AM

I'm not a fan of this whole 'representation of groups' malarkey, but if i had to be represented by anyone, I'd rather be represented by Michelle than that vile skip rat any day of the week.

-Sue- 29-01-2015 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 7543487)
She finally realised it was the Perez Show! :joker:

LOL so tempted to steal you sig :P

-Sue- 29-01-2015 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by LiamPRW (Post 7543490)
I'm not a fan of this whole 'representation of groups' malarkey, but if i had to be represented by anyone, I'd rather be represented by Michelle than that vile skip rat any day of the week.

Trying to guess the 'vile skip rat' um cami? :joker: we may need a guess the HM thread ;)

Vanessa 29-01-2015 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by -Sue- (Post 7543496)
LOL so tempted to steal you sig :P

It's funny, isn't it? :joker:

-Sue- 29-01-2015 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 7543502)
It's funny, isn't it? :joker:

hehe I had to :D

rubberface 29-01-2015 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 7543011)
use [ img][ /img] but take out the spaces

you gif signature just makes me lol everytime :laugh:

Lstan 29-01-2015 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 7543112)
Michelle has been massive part of fighting for LGBT rights since the 1980s! taking part in pride marches, fund raising, spreading aids awareness, protesting about equal rights and working to stop homophobia for all gays so that includes your friend. I don't think your friend would have a problem with a woman with the power of being in the public eye bringing such disgusting acts to the publics attention and getting something done about it.

That's 3 decades shes worked side by side with all members from the lgbt community.

She has touched on it briefly on the show aswell so it seems people just didn't pay attention.

The fact she got so upset with Perez was obvious she had been talking about it more but obviously with editing it wasn't shown that's why people will obviously come to the conclusion she was overreacting because they done know her history or what led up to that outburst in the diary room.

i think you need to re-read what i wrote, i am not attacking michelle nor did i say she doesnt do anything, like i literally say that at the end of my comment. if its touched on so briefly its no wonder many missed it-i am not the only one questioning it there have been a few other threads about this very topic. I also specifically say its in reference to whats been asked here-not how she is overall just whats been shown and discussed here.

i dont blame her for getting angry at perez, again that not what i said-what i said was wrong was saying hes setting back the movement 50 years with his actions in the house, thats a great insult to both those who have fought for lbgt rights and many watchers and...like how many times to i have to repeat it? i wonder how much of my reply you read before responding because its doesnt appear to b off anything i actually wrote.

daniel-lewis-1985 29-01-2015 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Lstan (Post 7543686)
i think you need to re-read what i wrote, i am not attacking michelle nor did i say she doesnt do anything, like i literally say that at the end of my comment. if its touched on so briefly its no wonder many missed it-i am not the only one questioning it there have been a few other threads about this very topic. I also specifically say its in reference to whats been asked here-not how she is overall just whats been shown and discussed here.

i dont blame her for getting angry at perez, again that not what i said-what i said was wrong was saying hes setting back the movement 50 years with his actions in the house, thats a great insult to both those who have fought for lbgt rights and many watchers and...like how many times to i have to repeat it? i wonder how much of my reply you read before responding because its doesnt appear to b off anything i actually wrote.

Its LGBT.

Good day to you sir I am not in the mood to debate today but I thought I should correct you for future reference.

the truth 29-01-2015 12:11 PM

no one person represents the homosexual community just as no one person represents the hetrosexual community, it is spectacularly ignorant and arrogant of michelle to claim such a role and to claim all gay people must behave a certain way the way she deems fit. what a twat..........everyone is an individual regardless of their sexuality

Liam- 29-01-2015 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by -Sue- (Post 7543498)
Trying to guess the 'vile skip rat' um cami? :joker: we may need a guess the HM thread ;)

Incorrect, Cami is a goddess of the highest tier.

-Sue- 29-01-2015 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LiamPRW (Post 7543754)
Incorrect, Cami is a goddess of the highest tier.

cough cough :hehe: nearly choked on my coffee then!

Deebo 29-01-2015 12:15 PM

She's used the gay community for her own ends and given precious little back. Very few people in the gay community would consider her "representative", not least because she's not gay, but also because she endorses, enables and supports a professional homophobe, racist and bigot

Lstan 29-01-2015 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 7543720)
Its LGBT.

Good day to you sir I am not in the mood to debate today but I thought I should correct you for future reference.

lol attacking someone for a spelling mistake means you are really out of ideas and cant be bothered to address what i said. i do appreciate being corrected for spelling mistakes but not when its done to be condecending, you are not fooling anyone.

funnily enough i didnt diagree with anything you said. you cant seem to accept people who have different views from yours and apparently even those who share your views. but as we are in the sharing mood here :

debate
dɪˈbeɪt/
noun
noun: debate; plural noun: debates
a formal discussion on a particular matter in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward.

you have been using the term wrong so i thought i should correct you for future reference. Good day :wavey:

the truth 29-01-2015 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LiamPRW (Post 7543754)
Incorrect, Cami is a goddess of the highest tier.

she is a gutter skank of the lowest order

Lstan 29-01-2015 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Deebo (Post 7543771)
She's used the gay community for her own ends and given precious little back. Very few people in the gay community would consider her "representative", not least because she's not gay, but also because she endorses, enables and supports a professional homophobe, racist and bigot

do you mean katie hopkins or are you refering to someone else she supports?

downthechippie 29-01-2015 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by adamski94 (Post 7542723)
Much better representive then Pratez

why does the 'gay community' need to have representatives? The 'straight communities' don't need reps. I find all this 'I represent' such and such very egotistical and quite frankly, homophobic in nature.

I mean, why segregate a section of society and make them a 'cause' or a 'special group'.

We are all people. Equality should mean just that. We are all equal.

And Michelle should get over herself and stop being such a prima dona for goodness sake!

Conzors 29-01-2015 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 7543158)
They thought that any gay member that was attacking Michelle was “pretending to be gay” and that they was pretending so they could be “homophobic.”

Thats the most RIDICULOUS thing ive ever heard haha x

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Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 7543392)
I'm not even going to continue this debate.

Have a great day.

Oh no, your one of those people that cant stand it when people have opinions that differ to yours.

Quote:

Originally Posted by downthechippie (Post 7544092)
why does the 'gay community' need to have representatives? The 'straight communities' don't need reps. I find all this 'I represent' such and such very egotistical and quite frankly, homophobic in nature.

I mean, why segregate a section of society and make them a 'cause' or a 'special group'.

We are all people. Equality should mean just that. We are all equal.

And Michelle should get over herself and stop being such a prima dona for goodness sake!

Preachhhh

Conzors 29-01-2015 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 7543720)
Its LGBT.

Good day to you sir I am not in the mood to debate today but I thought I should correct you for future reference.

I thought you didnt want to be in the debate anymore because my opinion was different to yours?

You cant always be right, at least LStan is joining in with the debate because he actually has the brain to accept other peoples opinions...

...Good day to you.

sarah2020 29-01-2015 03:42 PM

I agree and dont get the fuss on Michelle, She hasnt really done anything other than say a few things about the gay movement and become katies forgettable side kick, which is a shame as I dont know her at all, and often forget she is even in there.

Razor 29-01-2015 04:32 PM

I don't see how your sexuality is the one and only way to define yourself as a person. As for Michelle I agree she doesn't represent the gay community and I feel as though she is using this for popularity.

bots 29-01-2015 04:38 PM

The reason Michelle doesn't represent anyone other than herself was made clear when she was concerned that she would finish in a lower final position than Perez. This would not enter the head of someone truly representing a community, she is only concerned with her own popularity

elliebrew 29-01-2015 04:59 PM

http://i.giphy.com/zMTKuTBWYODUA.gif

Conzors 29-01-2015 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razor (Post 7544862)
I don't see how your sexuality is the one and only way to define yourself as a person. As for Michelle I agree she doesn't represent the gay community and I feel as though she is using this for popularity.

I Agree.

Ninastar 29-01-2015 08:33 PM

I dont think she's claimed that she does represent the gay community? She is passionate about them and she wouldn't have to talk about them if Perez wasn't such a bad example of a 'gay' little drama queen or w.e stereotype you want to call it.

Conzors 29-01-2015 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaos (Post 7545874)
I dont think she's claimed that she does represent the gay community? She is passionate about them and she wouldn't have to talk about them if Perez wasn't such a bad example of a 'gay' little drama queen or w.e stereotype you want to call it.

How can you be passionate about people that are all different?
You can be passionate about equality and acceptance but you cant be passionate about gay people in general.

Liam- 29-01-2015 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conzors (Post 7545901)
How can you be passionate about people that are all different?
You can be passionate about equality and acceptance but you cant be passionate about gay people in general.

What, why can't you? :unsure:

Ninastar 29-01-2015 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conzors (Post 7545901)
How can you be passionate about people that are all different?
You can be passionate about equality and acceptance but you cant be passionate about gay people in general.

...what? lol

Conzors 29-01-2015 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiamPRW (Post 7545914)
What, why can't you? :unsure:

Because you cant be passionate about ALL gay people? Look at what Michelle thinks about Perez? I'm pretty sure that Michelle is not passionate about Perez.

She can be passionate (like the majority of us) about equality as a whole but not about one minority group as everyone is different.

daniel-lewis-1985 29-01-2015 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lstan (Post 7543774)
lol attacking someone for a spelling mistake means you are really out of ideas and cant be bothered to address what i said. i do appreciate being corrected for spelling mistakes but not when its done to be condecending, you are not fooling anyone.

funnily enough i didnt diagree with anything you said. you cant seem to accept people who have different views from yours and apparently even those who share your views. but as we are in the sharing mood here :

debate
dɪˈbeɪt/
noun
noun: debate; plural noun: debates
a formal discussion on a particular matter in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward.

you have been using the term wrong so i thought i should correct you for future reference. Good day :wavey:

Nah just meant I had a hospital appointment to get to and couldn't be arsed.

daniel-lewis-1985 29-01-2015 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conzors (Post 7545971)
Because you cant be passionate about ALL gay people? Look at what Michelle thinks about Perez? I'm pretty sure that Michelle is not passionate about Perez.

She can be passionate (like the majority of us) about equality as a whole but not about one minority group as everyone is different.

Michelle is passionate about BASIC GAY RIGHTS aka basic human rights.

That doesn't mean she has to orgasm over every frigging gay person.

She simply doesn't like gay people being stereotyped as screaming, perverted, vile queens and I respect her for that and im sure most people on this forum in the past have complained that BB only cast the stereotypical gay so we obviously share the same feelings as Michelle.

And in response to your previous post I can accept others opinions and am a lovely, productive and generous forum member :)


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