As I said previously, I don't think such a big deal should have been made about it but it's an extremely ridiculous reason to refuse service and it was probably very upsetting for the couple who were probably very happy to be taking a huge step towards their big day. :sad:

Another thing I don't understand is that I haven't seen anyone stories about people refusing service to people who break other rules the bible says such as don't get tattoos or eat pork. It even says not to drink alcohol in a church. :umm2: Why is the gay stuff the only thing people find so offensive?

Oh for goodness sake get off your Politically correct high horse...

People make choices what they do... and if they don't want to give work to someone for whatever reason that is their choice

Plain and simple

Enough of the bigotry nonsense:nono::nono:

Yep or refusing to do wedding invitations for a woman or man who is divorced

So gay people's rights outweigh Christians' right to religious freedom?

If a gay couple had a business and they refused to serve straight people, that would be disgusting behaviour as well.

Not drinking alcohol in church isn't really the same thing. :joker:

It's like saying a library wants you to be quiet..... throughout your life.

Well who decides what to ignore and what not to? :umm2: I just don't understand it.

Do they normally include that on the invitations?

"You are cordially invited to Alicia Jenkins' fifth wedding in 10 years"

:hehe:

Well not drinking in church =/= never drink alcohol.

Just as if I didn't allow people to wear shoes in my house on my lovely carpet doesn't mean I don't agree with shoes. :joker:

I believe so in this circumstance yeah. I mean, anyone can start a religion and say X, Y and Z is against my religion, so I think sticking to Human rights trumping religious rights is a good plan. There's plenty of stuff that came out of the Bible that religions have dropped already because it's so out of step with modern society already.

But people drink in church all the time Morsh, the priests have wine to represent Jesus' blood.

That's not the same thing Jess at all, Jess!

So where did you get the "no alcohol" rule from? Your arse?

would the christian printer have to have gay sex with the couple?

if so then I am with the printer here, sorry


I know that the gays are keen for new members but that is too far



(perhaps a handjob if it were a big order)

Can't they just live and let live, respect each other's beliefs and lifestyle and not burden the rest of us with a storm in a teacup, hmmm?

LOL... you're an arse, LT.

How heavy is that fcuking Dog in your Avatar picture......:shocked::shocked:

Leviticus 10:9 “Do not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, nor thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die.”

It probably doesn't feel like such a storm in a tea cup to that couple :shrug:

Don't be silly, no ones going to fit in the tabernacle Jess :nono:

That would be personal and nothing to do with religious observance though.

:joker: Back then the tabernacle was basically a pop-up church, silly.

Oh for Goodness sake.........not everyone likes Gay people or Gay marriage etc, especially if they are religious and are brainwashed by traditional religious dogma.

Some people are never going to welcome gay people with open arms.

Similar case in the states:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2...cake/22771685/

Bakery owners end up losing their business and will be paying a hefty fine for their "religious stance"

Was it worth it?

Nobody is asking anybody to like gay people or gay lifestyle. :umm2: All they have to do is stop being discriminatory to potential customers.

What if a person started up a religion where that was one of the rules, would it be ok then?

If it's tainted their life to such an extent, then they really need a reality check. Unless there's only one printer in Ireland. You could offer to do them on your computer, Niamh! If you do I want 10% for bringing the business in.

Hang on a minute.........surely if they don't agree with Gay Marriage their actions in refusing to give work to this man will always be viewed as discriminatory.........

Oh for Goodness sake.........not everyone likes Black people or Black to white marriage etc, especially if they are religious and are brainwashed by traditional religious dogma.

Some people are never going to welcome Black people with open arms

sound different now?

Reaching a bit here Niamh... I was referring to the established churches in Ireland at the moment, I'm not discussing hypothetical religion.

The thing that really aggravates me about these stories is... and this isn't going to be popular... but if that couple had gone to a Muslim printer and he's refused them, I think most people would have said well, fair enough then...

What's your point............???

Nivia Printers, I like it :hehe:

I agree with this entirely.

if this was the case, it wouldn't even reach the media/social websites etc etc

the main reason people are so bothered about it is because they can bitch about christians

Not really, if the precedent is set for people to discriminate as long as they're part of a religion, what's to stop people from starting up religions with any "rules" they want?

That's the exact same situation though. :umm2: What's the different between a Catholic homophobe and a Muslim homophobe?

If it goes against his Christian beliefs why should he be forced into it, we can't have "freedom of speech and expression" if only one side is heard, just go somewhere else and stop creating a drama out of it :idc:

And Nivia means snow white in Latin, which is pretty. Well, Nivea, but it's close.

Yes exactly. I bet you wont see britain first moaning about this.