Er I cant remember, it was stuff like traitors or something.

famous last words

[Cynical mode]Nice way to get him silenced and out of the way to avoid any damaging revelations at the next trial [/cynical mode]

Sticks, I don't agree with you when you say he has died a martyr. The Iraqi's believe that dying as a martyr is by firing squad, as this signifies they died a soldier. Instead, Saddam was hanged - like any common criminal in Iraq.

Also, surely if there were any "damaging revelations" - they would have been revealed in the first trial, and the numerous hearings before and after. And if there was anything too bad, he would have said it in his final rites.

But, I like your cynical thinking!

1 - 0 to Lauren while Sticks has yet to score. :laugh:

I'm glad he's gone so we can start 2007 without him. I agree with what Lauren said about being a 'martyr'.

very witty markus

It depends upon the spin put on it by those hostile to the US and Al Quaida

True, but it doesn't help their case the fact that Saddam specifically requested to be killed by firing squad and was denied that right by the "infidels". And instead he had to die like every common criminal in Iraq.

They don't have much common ground to base their argument /ideological beliefs upon.

My post (edited) from the Iraq Today Thread

:whistle::whistle::whistle: Im glad its over with

I agree, Red Moon.
The divide in Iraq is about to get much bigger.

The US forces in Iraq need to stop trying to bind the nation together - it won't happen in a million years. They need to focus more on keeping tyranny away from Iraq, while acknowledging different belief systems within Shia and Shi'ite strongholds. (As you mention, prisoners being tortured and killed without a right to a fair trial).

Something like 'Iraq is nothing without me' I just saw the video of it being done, but not speaking arabic I didn't understand what was being said. It all happened v quick.

- Mark

Allah Akbahr - God is Great :wink:

Then he said something about "Iraq will prevail" - Although my translation is loose on that.
And then he mentioned something about Palestine.

Lmao earlier I went to one of my family members for a buffet, there were a few people there.

Now we were watching a Steve Irwin documentary and it was about death and my Grandma went 'lets raise a toast to Grandad' (who died this year) so we all emotionally toasted.. then to another friend of the family who died, then to Steve Irwin, and I went 'Saddam Hussein' and raised my glass- and everyone just stared at me. I think they thought I was serious.:laugh:

Hmm... nice to see you have some tact, he may have been a ruthless dictator but at least he died for something he believed in, even if it was wrong. All people deserve respect. He was only hanged for killing 150 or so people, how many people have been killed after he was taken from power? Don't you think Bush and Blair have something to answer for??????

I have access to this video.

For obvious reasons I am not going to post the link in this thread, but if anyone wants it - feel free to U2U me, and I will give you the link.

:laugh:

I understand you are entitled to your opinion, and I respect you for voicing it in a thread where 99% of the people are against your view.

But I seriously think that Saddam cannot even be classified as a person. Anyone inhumane enough to take innocent lives so freely without remorse clearly has something wrong somewhere. When I class someone as a person it means they show empathy - even in the slightest degree. This "man" had no such thing.

Had Bush & Blair not went into Iraq - there would still be the same number of casualties now. I agree, they've been trigger happy at the best of times - but the number of casualties in Iraq today cannot be the responsibility of Bush & Blair.

I think execution is hypocrtical.. They shouldn't have executed him. He should have just suffered a life imprisonment.

With the new government taking over Iraq, and the present day situation - his time in jail wouldn't have been "suffering". The US would need to keep him in custody, and there would even be a chance that he was freed with leadership arguments. The worlds eyes would be on how they treat Saddam in jail - and therefore it wouldn't be suffering at all - it would simply give him a chance to once again voice his evil message.

Well whatever.. But I just dont believe in execution no matter how inhumean a person is. It just doesn't make sense that you can legally kill a person who has murdered others.

I think sometimes hypocrisy is called for. :tongue:

But we will agree to disagree! :laugh:

I'm not into politics so I don't really know what I'm talking about, all I know is that Ireland is a neutral country and all this was/conflict won't really effect our country. Thank God!

If everyone practiced hypocrisy our society would be ripped to pieces, so I don't think it's ever called-for.

Whether or not people agree with the death penalty that was the rules of the country for commiting the crimes that he did and also when he was in power he enforced the death penalty as a punishment so for for me he deserved to live by the punishment he served out to others for murder in his time as president.

Well then that works because it would have been hypocrictical if he was not executed. This conversation is getting confusing ..

Thanks for understanding, but I feel this thread isn't representative of world opinion. Take a look across the world and see how other counties have responded.

Nor have Bush and Blair. They are so innocent in all the mess they have made. They have no remorse. They lied to us to go to war and I find this unforgivable. If we can't trust them to tell the truth about going to war how can we trust them on any issue? They have shown no empathy for the Iraq people. So what makes them different from Saddam?

How can you have been so sure? He might have been a ruthless dictator but at least the country was under control. On the BBC news tonight it said at least they knew were the fear they lived under came from, now they don't know which conner it's going to come from.

The mess that Iraq is in today can be traced to the West's support of Saddam over many years. By silencing him they have got rid of the chief witness against them forever.

I find it quite offensive that people should go seeking the video of anyones death.

Hahaha, i just saw saddam in a bar up town... not sure if it was the real one though, he did have a brummy accent so i'm not so sure.

I think that it was unjustified. Saddam may be an evil son of a female dog but hanging was the wrong option, especially on such a religious day for Muslims (beginning of eid). I read an article today;

A dictator created then destroyed by America

That about sums it up.

I watched the video and really enjoyed it. Am i wrong to enjoy seeing such a horrid man like him be hung? Nope.

He's a twonk - shame it weren't a more slow and painful death.

It wasn't the beginning of Eid. Executions during Eid are illegal, and this is probably by they did it on the eve of Eid - which is not a sacred day in the Islamic calendar at all.

:thumbs: Haha. Here here! :tongue:

Ive got Saddam Husseins new shirt by the way...

bit tight round the neck but hangs nicely! :laugh:


Just got sent it by text... sorry if it offends anyone.

Haha :laugh:

I have some Saddan Hussein shirts for sale.. they are a bit tight around the neck, but they hang well. :tongue:

It was the most viewed video on youtube yeasterday
and there are hundreds of videos about it

That's one video I will definitely NOT be watching. I don't care that he is dead, but amma not watching that .. NO WAY! :laugh:

I know:bored:

Fair enough he's been executed, but I'd just like to say - how many bad people are there in the world? Plenty! There's been many who have killed lots of innocent people and been executed as a result, but NONE of it has been shown on TV or whatever, and why? Because it's considered immoral, pointless etc. The only reason Saddam's got shown, and why so many people hate him and not any of the others, is because of the way he's been portrayed far far worse than anyone like him (e.g. Milosevic) - that too primarily in the Western world.

Would I watch the TV clip? NO!

I think a lot of people have a morbid fascination about watching these things..

I don't. :bored:

random question

Was Hitler hanged?

After intense street-to-street combat, when Soviet troops were spotted within a block or two of the Reich Chancellory in the city centre, Hitler committed suicide in the Führerbunker on April 30, 1945 by means of a self-delivered shot to the head (it is likely he simultaneously bit into a cyanide ampoule). Hitler's body and that of Eva Braun (his long-term mistress whom he had married the day before) were put in a bomb crater, partially burned with gasoline by Führerbunker aides and hastily buried in the Chancellory garden as Russian shells poured down and Red Army infantry continued to advance only two or three hundred metres away. He also had his dog Blondi poisoned around the same time.

Source: wikipedia