They filled my little mind with dread
of The Boogeyman hiding beneath my bed.
"He's evil and 'orrible so don't dare look"
Then I did and thought; "Woah What The ****?"
There was no Boogeyman beneath my bed
Just Nigel with THE TRUTH instead"

From 'Original Ode's' by Kirk Byron with a foreword by WaterHog. Published by Tibb and available from 'Cut Through The Crap' bookshop and all good outlets. :hehe:

well if you find any examples of that in their recent manifesto let me and the thread know


:idc:

Sure SNP


But even though they all No to a UKIP merge
saying no they will not
work with them etc


If UKIP numbers go up
they will be merged in (to keep Labour feckers Out)
One of them Douglas
is a former Conservative
so he can set it up.

:wavey:

Or maybe the fact that they refer to homosexuality as a special interest group?

95% sure I'll be voting Labour in the GE, but also like the Greens (and may vote for them in the council election happening in my uni area), the SNP and the TUSC.

Where in the manifesto?

I dont work for ukip

#reaching

Like every other party Rob, UKIP are far from perfect, but with me it's a case of the Pro's FAR outweighing any CONS.

In my opinion, the EU and our 'Open Door' immigration policy are THE two issues which are of the gravest, most urgent concern for this country's future survival, and Farage is THE only politician who is genuine, honest and passionate about addressing them both - the other leaders are paying lip service or have policies which are in opposition to my own views.

As LT says; there is NOTHING in the UKIP Manifesto to alarm anyone, and if the day ever came when Farage held power directly or the balance of power in a coalition, and adverse policies DID start to be proposed or implemented, then ALL of us have the vote to remove him.

The other (Big) two party leaders are PROVEN liars whereas Farage is merely the victim of propaganda.

I'll give him a chance.

It isn't in their manifesto, because UKIP are the only political party not to mention LGBT rights in their manifesto.

:joker:

Just as they are the ONLY political party to have a fully costed sound and legitimate Manifesto.

It's the fact that the were the ONLY party to leave anything about LGBT rights out of their manifesto.

You should, you'd be excellent.

I don't understand how anybody can actually take a long hard look at what UKIP want to achieve and not consider it as worrying. Their views ARE bigoted. Do you honestly believe that the most terrible thing going on in this country is that people are coming over here from different countries for work? You are aware of what is actually happening in a lot of these countries? The reasons they want to escape? Their motives aren't as sinister as you'd like to believe.
These "bloody foreigners" are taking the jobs that the British don't want. Factory work, land work - things that a lot of Brits see as beneath them. How the hell the UK can be so terrified of political correctness and not offending anybody when UKIP is a serious contender for government is beguiling to say the least.

Lol so they are homophobic for something not in their manifesto?

Brilliant

The issues are far, far, more complex and deeper than that Rob, but 'each to their own' and as always I respect your right to your view.

So you believe that homosexuality is a special interest group? Like caravanners?

UKIP candiate John Lyndon Sullivan said that "poofters" should be shot
John Kearney said that gay people are "prisoners who need freedom"
UKIP donor Demetri Marchessin says that gay people are incapable of fidelity
Iain McLaughlin says it was a tragedy that Section 28 was repealed
UKIP MEP Roger Helmer says it's ok to be homophobic if you're over 70, and that being gay's "abnormal and undesirable"
Julia Gasper says gay people should be sectioned under the Mental Health Act
David Silvester says gay marriage causes floods
Sam Fletcher is "baffled by the acceptance of homosexuality"

Just a few.

Labour.

Oh and the added fact that all of these people still are in power.

Thats great but where is this in the manifesto?

Every large party has eejits if u care to look

So does this forum apparently. You've just been told twice that LGBT rights aren't mentioned in their manifesto.

That must be the ones hurling false accusations and failing miserably to back them up?

You could be right

False accusations? Such as?

If posting a (not even comprehensive) list of some of the homophobic things UKIP candidates have said over the past couple of years isn't proof of anything then god help us all.

:clap1:

(and before anyone points out that UKIP have got a gay MEP - yes, they do. Who's a massive racist and opposes same-sex marriage)

Oh and I'll just leave this here.

[img] http://i.imgur.com/pSqK70Al.jpg [/img]

What like homophobic and racist?

said you

but funnily enough you dont seem to have found anything in their stated manifesto that supports that


not like you have read it anyway:joker:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-services.html

and i will leave this from march 2014


:hehe:

Yes, it can't possibly be a homophobic party if it was calling for same sex marriages to be banned as one of its policies just a year ago.

oh and I have noticed that no party has mentioned anything about Gingers or short people


smh

what is the world coming to?

that is right, you cant


:clap1:

Think the thing with Ukip is that their policies themselves aren't actually racist or that prejudiced and I don't think Farage is either. He generally seems the libertarian type who really doesn't give a toss about peoples race, sexuality etc. The problem is that up until very recently they were just part of the irrelevant right wing loony fringe. Look at their manifesto in 2010 and its a load of nonsense, even Farage admits it was 'drivel'. But because that's the sort of party Ukip were for so long they attracted a lot of dodgy characters and they weren't too bothered about how questionable their supporters were because nobody cared about Ukip at that stage. But now that means the ones who are highest up in the party are those who naturally have been there the longest and were attracted to the Ukip of pre-2010, and they're a big embarrassment to Farage. It's why for all the talk about Ukip being 'anti-establishment' and 'something different' they've had to moderate themselves massively and move closer to the political centre in order to have any legitimacy.

When hell freezes over.

also a lot of Ukip supporters grew up with things like homosexuality being a criminal offence.

Yes they've had to knock their corners off to fit in with the mainstream... That's not to say that they don't have those principles still at their core. Look at the type of people drawn to UKIP, the 'every man is an island' middle englander, essex man and far right thug.
Everything they stand for is regressive, 'let's go back' how many times have we heard this phrase from Farage?

Liberty – People living their lives as they choose with government off their backs;

Democracy – elected representatives work for the People, not the party and promotion;

Justice – fairness, social justice, rule of our laws, upholding the People’s rights;

Prosperity – through free enterprise together with prudent and honest government.

http://ukipdaily.com/a-nukip-beginning/

Meaning? Privatise everything, and get rid of any regulators that might spot exploitation and bad practice.
Yes UKIP want you to live your life as you choose... unless you're gay and want to get married and have a family, then it's a no.

As did supporters of all parties, this is an excuse, Rozanne Duncan attempted the same.. It didn't wash either.

well at least when we find out all the mps who were part of the Cyril Smith (labour, liberal) paedo debacle they will all be from the 3 main parties and none from ukip

:whistle:

If any of the other leaders were even half decent communicators, the SNP wouldn't be given a second thought. They truly are an awful party. They bend the rules to try and fix the voting results and they only have 1 agenda, an independent Scotland. Anyone who values the union will not vote for the SNP.

In terms of uk wide party's the tories are ahead by a long way with me, but even they are mediocre at best.

A daily mail article defending UKIP. Imagine.