Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 7882863)

I have to admit, while we disagree on our views of Helen I do agree about Nikki.

She's nowhere near as awful as Helen, but she did contribute to the Shahbaz nastiness in BB7. Helen's on a totally different level, but Nikki wasn't a saint in her original series, it's just that her nastiness is overlooked by most.

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 7882859)

Lol?

You seriously aren't comparing me commenting on Helen's behavior to Helen herself? She's a bully, I'm simply commenting on the fact that she is a bully and that, in the past and now, she has done everything she can to alienate a belittle anyone she dislikes. This is a woman that outs people on Twitter and brands people she dislikes peadophiles. She isn't honest or straight speaking, she's just a evil toxic little bully and I truly do not understand how anyone can be so blind as to defend her actions.

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7882891)

I think you're a bit blinded by your dislike of her that your posts are descending into a bit of a rant containing lots of derogatory words, I'm not judging her by what she does or says outside the house, I'm commenting on how she is in the house only.
I'm not totally in agreement with all she says and does at all but I do make comparisons with others and can see their behaviour as bad but in a more subtle way, I'm more offended at cheap jibes than loud swearing.

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 7882870)

One incident doesn't mean much when she's been harmless since. I think suggesting she's transphobic is a bit of a joke too. She just didn't gel with Sam, if she was a transphobe then she wouldn't have got on with Nadia no? She wouldn't speak of her so highly.

Helen's been a vicious hypocritical hag since she walked into the house last year and nothing has changed.

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 7882897)

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7882905)

I wasn't suggesting she was anything phobic, that was just the reason for her warning.
I don't think she has grown at all, she still gurns, cries, whines and flies off the handle at odd intervals.... nothing's changed :/

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7883104)

I liked her then but only the latter half of the series,I like her now,no sugar coating from her,she is loud,offensive to those she doesn't like,but a good friend to those she does,just because she dislikes a housemate I like doesn't turn me against her,to me that is fickle,Helen is my kind of girl.