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Beetlejuice 05-07-2015 01:09 PM
After Nikki got evicted on BB7 the show nearly lost as many viewers as this series has been getting

BigBuk 05-07-2015 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Petemitch (Post 7967013)
5 million isn't even a lot considering it's a vine and every single person that's viewed it would contribute to more than one loop each and that's forgetting that people who would have it on replay, not a lot. She is nowhere near internationally well known or even nationally.

If you think she's a celeb I don't know what to say really.

hijaxers 05-07-2015 01:14 PM
Well sorry if if i'm on my own but i think Marc has been the best HM in any Ch 5 series - this yrs dead in the water now and not fussed if i see it or not sadly as i can't stand any of the tossers left in there

Pete. 05-07-2015 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBuk (Post 7967033)
5 million isn't even a lot considering it's a vine and every single person that's viewed it would contribute to more than one loop each and that's forgetting that people who would have it on replay, not a lot. She is nowhere near internationally well known or even nationally.

If you think she's a celeb I don't know what to say really.
5 million is loads hun

BigBuk 05-07-2015 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Petemitch (Post 7967097)
5 million is loads hun
Isn't to be considered internationally known in the grand scheme of things.

BigBuk 05-07-2015 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 7967021)
You do realise that you're the minority lol? See poll above.
Not minority now is it? See poll above.

Withano 05-07-2015 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBuk (Post 7967108)
Not minority now is it? See poll above.
What by 1 person? Lmao, that's such a huge gap.

BigBuk 05-07-2015 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 7967130)
What by 1 person? Lmao, that's such a huge gap.
The fact the question was even asked shows he is, never going to see this question asked about the rest of the HMs.

Withano 05-07-2015 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBuk (Post 7967151)
The fact the question was even asked shows he is, never going to see this question asked about the rest of the HMs.
He really isn't.. The only people who voted on this poll are those that are interested in BB16. If thats not a bias selection, I don't know what is.

Besides, great means in the top 10%? 20% at a push, the fact that ~half the people voting thinks he is not a great housemate proves he isn't, all the greats are pretty much unanimously recognised to be so.

BigBuk 05-07-2015 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 7967205)
He really isn't.. The only people who voted on this poll are those that are interested in BB16. If thats not a bias selection, I don't know what is.

Besides, great means in the top 10%? 20% at a push, the fact that ~half the people voting thinks he is not a great housemate proves he isn't, all the greats are pretty much unanimously recognised to be so.
Absolute BS. "all the greats are pretty much unanimously recognised to be so." Tell me one person you regard as a BB legend and they'll be people who won't regard them as that.

If the majority of people think he is then he is. Also I'm willing to bet that some of the people voting no are hipsters too along with people who just don't like him.

Ross. 05-07-2015 02:44 PM
erm no

Withano 05-07-2015 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBuk (Post 7967217)
Absolute BS. "all the greats are pretty much unanimously recognised to be so." Tell me one person you regard as a BB legend and they'll be people who won't regard them as that.

If the majority of people think he is then he is. Also I'm willing to bet that some of the people voting no are hipsters too along with people who just don't like him.
Pete Benett, Charley Uchea, Nasty Nick, Chantelle Houghton..

People who revolutionised the show.. Aaron and unfortunately, Helen, are the only people close to great status from C5 and if there was a poll in any of the names above, they'd probably all get over a 75/25 split.. Not 55/45.

Some passive aggressive bloke who was in the for 5 weeks, immune for four and left as soon as he was illegible to do so isn't a great housemate! That there, is the definition of one of the worst ever housemates, and not in a good way.

BB4fan 05-07-2015 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Firegazer (Post 7966930)
Yet 10 years later, they are known nationwide. Will Marc be remembered in 10 years time?
The question is will Marc keep living off the past like Nikki...???

the truth 05-07-2015 02:46 PM
in truth he faded quickly. sadly big brother isn't the slow burn as before, its all gimmicks and manipulation so no relationships or real banter and craic , camaraderie, love really forms anymore. he went in as a tacky aention seeker, throwing nasty cheap insults around all the time ....then denied doing it. so hes a liar and really he stands for nothing

Pete. 05-07-2015 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 7967231)
Pete Benett, Charley Uchea, Nasty Nick, Chantelle Houghton..

People who revolutionised the show.. Aaron and unfortunately, Helen, are the only people close to great status from C5 and if there was a poll in any of the names above, they'd probably all get over a 75/25 split.. Not 55/45.

Some passive aggressive bloke who was in the for 5 weeks, immune for four and left as soon as he was illegible to do so isn't a great housemate! That there, is the definition of one of the worst ever housemates, and not in a good way.
Toya is a Channel 5 legend too http://britneyuniverse.com/public/st...ieceofwhat.jpg

Withano 05-07-2015 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Petemitch (Post 7967241)
Didn't watch that series, I'll take your word for it.

Pete. 05-07-2015 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 7967244)
Didn't watch that series, I'll take your word for it.
Lmao slay a bit Toya :clap1:

BigBuk 05-07-2015 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 7967231)
Pete Benett, Charley Uchea, Nasty Nick, Chantelle Houghton..

People who revolutionised the show.. Aaron and unfortunately, Helen, are the only people close to great status from C5 and if there was a poll in any of the names above, they'd probably all get over a 75/25 split.. Not 55/45.

Some passive aggressive bloke who was in the for 5 weeks, immune for four and left as soon as he was illegible to do so isn't a great housemate! That there, is the definition of one of the worst ever housemates, and not in a good way.
I don't mind the other 3 but they'll be people out there who won't like them, especially Nick.

I liked Helen but Marc was a much better HM. Again him being evicted has no baring on him being a bad HM, you're just ignorant and as for one of the worst ever... Haha. I can see your hatred of him is so strong which leads you to say such stupid things, that's why Marc is loved, he gets under peoples skin like yourself and he makes them say stupid things, again like you've just done. He's the definition of one of the worst housemates ever? hahaha.

Sam Evans one of the best housemates ever because he won in your logic.

BigBuk 05-07-2015 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BB4fan (Post 7967234)
The question is will Marc keep living off the past like Nikki...???
This. He won't need too, he's got a proper job. Nikki is a washed up has been Z-Lister.

Withano 05-07-2015 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBuk (Post 7967262)
Hahaha. Chantelle? Who was mugged off by Ziggy a legend? Don't make me laugh. I don't mind the other 3 but they'll be people out there who won't like them, especially Nick.

I liked Helen but Marc was a much better HM. Again him being evicted has no baring on him being a bad HM, you're just ignorant and as for one of the worst ever... Haha. I can see your hatred of him is so strong which leads you to say such stupid things, that's why Marc is loved, he gets under peoples skin like yourself and he makes them say stupid things, again like you've just done. He's the definition of one of the worst housemates ever? hahaha.

Sam Evans one of the best housemates ever because he won in your logic.
No, thats not who Chantelle is and no, Sam is not a great housemate... Good luck trying to make more posts where you convince other people that they stupid things though (lol)

And no, Marc, although similar to Helen, is nowhere near a greater hm... More likable, maybe.

jet 05-07-2015 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 7966846)
9th place in the worst series ever
:joker: ...and he had immunity until he was shown the door too. I'll remember him - as that prick whats - his - name who couldn't afford trousers.

BigBuk 05-07-2015 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 7967274)
No, thats not who Chantelle is and no, Sam is not a great housemate... Good luck trying to make more posts where you convince other people that they stupid things though (lol)

And no, Marc, although similar to Helen, is nowhere near a greater hm.
Woops got her mixed up with Chanelle I think, anyway my point still stands. Everybody has different opinions, not every single person will consider those you listed as legends, that's a fact.

But Sam won... Surely he's a great HM if you go off were they finished?

Again as much as I liked Helen she wasn't as good as Marc, she wasn't as funny, as clever and she let her self get wound up when she had been in arguments, opposite of Marc.

Also Helen would have certainly have went if she didn't have a pass to the final but yet you're criticising Marc for escaping 1 week, makes no sense whatsoever.

Pete. 05-07-2015 03:05 PM
Messy Chanelle is no legend

BigBuk 05-07-2015 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Petemitch (Post 7967290)
Messy Chanelle is no legend
I know she's not, got her name mistaken.

Pete. 05-07-2015 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBuk (Post 7967294)
I know she's not, got her name mistaken.
Drag her :clap1:

Withano 05-07-2015 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBuk (Post 7967285)
Woops got her mixed up with Chanelle I think, anyway my point still stands. Everybody has different opinions, not every single person will consider those you listed as legends, that's a fact.

But Sam won... Surely he's a great HM if you go off were they finished?

Again as much as I liked Helen she wasn't as good as Marc, she wasn't as funny, as clever and she let her self get wound up when she had been in arguments, opposite of Marc.

Also Helen would have certainly have went if she didn't have a pass to the final but yet you're criticising Marc for escaping 1 week, makes no sense whatsoever.
I'm just saying the great housemates would be in the top 10/20%.. Thats how I define great.. Among the best.. By the looks of the poll, he probably just scrapes into the top half, definitely not the elite. Loads of C4 hms could get more than a 55/45% split if the same question was asked. Helen and Aaron from C5 would also manage. (Sam would not, God knows why you keep bringing him up)

BigBuk 05-07-2015 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 7967299)
I'm just saying the great housemates would be in the top 10/20%.. By the looks of the poll, he probably just scrapes into the top 50%. Loads of C4 hms could get more than a 55/45% split if the same question was asked. Helen and Aaron from C5 would also manage.
The reason why Marc is so close is because people don't like him, not because he isn't a legend. The fact so many like him and others don't shows to me is a legend.

Everybody has a strong opinion on him, the people who have never been thought of as legends everybody won't have a strong opinion on them because they're boring. Marc brought talking points throughout the whole series.

Withano 05-07-2015 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBuk (Post 7967310)
The reason why Marc is so close is because people don't like him, not because he isn't a legend. The fact so many like him and others don't shows to me is a legend.

Everybody has a strong opinion on him, the people who have never been thought of as legends everybody won't have a strong opinion on them because they're boring. Marc brought talking points throughout the whole series.
Liking somebody and being a 'BB great' are two different things, you assuming people aren't answering the question properly because you don't like the results is dumb.

I dislike Marc and he isn't a BB great
I dislike Helen but she is a BB great
I like Sam but he isn't a BB great
I like Chantelle and she is a BB great

bots 05-07-2015 03:25 PM
to be a great housemate, you have to appeal to a broad section of the voting public. Marc didn't do that, so he is no where near a great

BigBuk 05-07-2015 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 7967326)
Liking somebody and being a 'BB great' are two different things, you assuming people aren't answering the question properly because you don't like the results is dumb.
I don't assume, I know people cloud their judgements over HMs on this site due to their dislike towards a HM.

The "who will you remember from this series" thread proves my point when people are listing bores and not Marc, if I despised a HM and saw that thread I'd list them because I would remember them, simple as that. That's obvious proof that people let their agenda over a HM cloud their judgement.

There's no point arguing really, you and others obviously don't consider him a legend, myself and others do. He's a legend in some peoples eyes and not others, like all HMs.

BigBuk 05-07-2015 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 7967331)
to be a great housemate, you have to appeal to a broad section of the voting public. Marc didn't do that, so he is no where near a great
Your opinion, to me and others he was.

Lostie! 05-07-2015 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Beetlejuice (Post 7966997)
Youtube video



:dance:
Most of the housemates are "known" to certain people from other countries who follow international BBs so if we're classing any housemates who are known to anybody overseas as "internationally known" ... that goes for a lot of them.

But does that make them internationally famous? No. They're "known" to a select few.

bots 05-07-2015 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBuk (Post 7967336)
Your opinion, to me and others he was.
and to others he wasn't, and the others I refer to were in the majority

BigBuk 05-07-2015 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 7967350)
and to others he wasn't, and the others I refer to were in the majority
No you aren't the majority.

Withano 05-07-2015 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBuk (Post 7967334)

There's no point arguing really, you and others obviously don't consider him a legend, myself and others do. He's a legend in some peoples eyes and not others, like all HMs.
...Still... A legend would be considered so by the vast majority of viewers and the numbers in the poll is conclusive, Marc is not one...

I suppose you'd be better off arguing for what the definition of a legend is

Lostie! 05-07-2015 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 7967366)
...Still... A legend would be considered so my the majority of viewers and the numbers in the poll is conclusive, Marc is not one...

I suppose you'd be better off arguing for what the definition of a legend is
What poll are you looking at? The "majority" of voters have currently voted yes. If you want to lecture people on definitions, I suggest you look up the meaning of "majority" first.

Of course, that could change as Marc is an extremely marmite housemate, but that's how it currently stands.

Withano 05-07-2015 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 7967374)
What poll are you looking at? The "majority" of voters have currently voted yes. If you want to lecture people on definitions, I suggest you look up the meaning of "majority" first.

Of course, that could change as Marc is an extremely marmite housemate, but that's how it currently stands.
True, I meant like 75/85%.. Edited my post. Just over half the people does not make him a great.

BigBuk 05-07-2015 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 7967366)
...Still... A legend would be considered so by the vast majority of viewers and the numbers in the poll is conclusive, Marc is not one...

I suppose you'd be better off arguing for what the definition of a legend is
If more people consider him a legend than not he's a legend to the majority, stop being ignorant, you're getting boring now.

bots 05-07-2015 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 7967377)
True, I meant like 70/80%.. Edited my post. Just over half the people does not make him a great.
not only that, enough people showed a dislike of him to boot him out on friday, clearly not a great.

I liked Jade, thought she was brilliant, but if you can't survive evictions you are a nobody

Lostie! 05-07-2015 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 7967377)
True, I meant like 75/85%.. Edited my post. Just over half the people does not make him a great.
Fair enough.

Still, I think what makes a classic housemate to the individual is subjective, there are housemates commonly branded as legends who I don't particularly care for and find overrated. I don't really see it as a matter of fact, but rather personal opinions.


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