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Crimson Dynamo 03-08-2015 07:43 PM

"Restaurant servers rely on tips for survival, but a growing number of critics are pointing out that the system is flawed.

The standard tip on dinner checks is now as much as 25%, reports Venessa Wong at Bloomberg Businessweek.

But while upscale servers can earn good money, the cooks who prepare the food make minimum wage.

Restaurateur Michael Chiarello, who owns Bottega in Manhattan, said that his servers make up to $90,000 a year through tips, while cooks earn close to minimum wage. "

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/cooks...#ixzz3hmbQW7k5

LukeB 03-08-2015 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8042336)
so if the food is crap the waiter gets no tip and if its good he or she does get good tips

both situations are beyond their control as they dont make food

and cooks may get more basic but with tips a waiter may earn more overall

depends on the situation really, if it wasn't their fault then i will still tip them.

Crimson Dynamo 03-08-2015 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8042338)
I tip waiting staff if the service has been good unless a service charge is included in the bill. When the service is bad I don't tip, if there has been a service charge included, I deduct it.

what about if the food is crap?

Josy 03-08-2015 07:44 PM

I always leave a tip because they do a great job, are basically at your beckon call throughout your time in the restaurant etc.

I give taxi drivers a tip when I use them but that's rare.

I give delivery men and workmen at my house a fiver and sometimes at xmas I also give them some cans or bottles of beer.

I give takeaway delivery drivers a tip every time.

If any of my family members or close friends are in hospital I always hand in some flowers or a box of chocolates or biscuits into the nurses station when they are getting home.

Because it's nice to be nice and these people all do a good job :shrug:

Livia 03-08-2015 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8042341)
what about if the food is crap?

I send it back, pay for what I've had... usually drinks... and leave. I'm not having a full service so I don't tip.

Crimson Dynamo 03-08-2015 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josy (Post 8042344)
I always leave a tip because they do a great job, are basically at your beckon call throughout your time in the restaurant etc.

I give taxi drivers a tip when I use them but that's rare.

I give delivery men and workmen at my house a fiver and sometimes at xmas I also give them some cans or bottles of beer.

I give takeaway delivery drivers a tip every time.

If any of my family members or close friends are in hospital I always hand in some flowers or a box of chocolates or biscuits into the nurses station when they are getting home.

Because it's nice to be nice and these people all do a good job :shrug:

binmen?

flight attendants (at your beck and call)

Josy 03-08-2015 07:52 PM

LT struggling to accept that not everyone's a miserable ol git like him? :idc:

Crimson Dynamo 03-08-2015 07:53 PM

Better service doesn't actually beget better tips

Diners love the power to bestow or withhold financial reward at their whim; servers, in turn, seem to be motivated by the idea that really excellent service could be rewarded by a monster gratuity. The trouble is, that's not actually how things pan out in practice. Michael Lynn, a professor at Cornell's School of Hotel Administration, has spent his career researching tipping behaviors, and found that perceived service quality only accounts for two percent of the variation between tips. Two percent! It's probably not even enough to be picked up on by the server, much less cause a significant change in behaviour.

http://www.esquire.com/food-drink/re...egal-15603180/

LukeB 03-08-2015 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8042354)
binmen?

flight attendants (at your beck and call)

binman is apparently a good paid job and so it should be, and i hardly ever see them.

I gave a flight attendant Ģ5 before because I found her pretty (I was 7) but I would give a flight attendant tips because they try and make you have a good flight.

Crimson Dynamo 03-08-2015 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josy (Post 8042357)
LT struggling to accept that not everyone's a miserable ol git like him? :idc:

I never eat out so dont have to worry about it but I do think it should be challenged and I do think people do it for fear of not doing it

and that is wrong

Also attractive girls always get the best tips, fact

how is that fair in 2015?

its sexism

:nono:

Crimson Dynamo 03-08-2015 07:56 PM

9 Reasons We Should Abolish Tipping, Once And For All
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/1...n_5991796.html



:cheer2:

Ashley. 03-08-2015 08:25 PM

My family always tips; I don't. I pay what I owe them and leave. I'm not giving someone extra money for doing their job, they'll get what they deserve in their pay cheque at the end of the month.

Dollface 03-08-2015 08:45 PM

I tip if the service was good. Of course, i'm not gonna tip if the service was crap :laugh:

I think it's a nice thing to do. And tbh, if people don't tip I think they're just tight.

T* 03-08-2015 09:09 PM

if the service was good and the staff were friendly, then tip.

Denver 03-08-2015 09:15 PM

I never tip for food but i have been known to leave my number :smug:

joeysteele 03-08-2015 09:17 PM

I only ever leave a tip now, if I have had good and non intrusive service. Otherwise I politely thank them on leaving but leave no tip.

Brother Leon 03-08-2015 09:24 PM

I tip most of the time if the staff made you feel happy and appreciated. I appreciate how hard and stressful the job can be as I done it myself.

Ramsay 03-08-2015 09:26 PM

It's a big thing in america because their minimum wage is so low. it's not so low over here so i rarely do it.

lostalex 03-08-2015 09:49 PM

I do it because i was a server and i remember how happy i was to finish a long day dealing with assholes and kissing ass, and see all those cash money tips. it's a nice feeling.

Rob! 03-08-2015 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8042214)
rude?

how so

Surely good service is what the place pays the employee for?

I expect good service in the Spar, the bike shop, my dentist, the bank, amazon etc

just because they are walking 20 yards to bring food is no different?


And you get it dammit.

Ammi 04-08-2015 04:40 AM

...you're tipping because it's a service thing, which is different to things like retail..someone has served you, yeah they get paid for that but they don't get paid accordingly to the level of service that's given, it's often left for the person being served to appreciate that and give accordingly...

...anyways, yes I tip at restaurants/taxis/hairdressers/any people working at my house/the guys who take my rubbish away and etc etc...sometimes it's a cash tip and sometimes it's a different type of gift...

waterhog 04-08-2015 08:13 AM

when i visit my fave restaurant i leave the same tip every-time - tell chef it was beautiful and i am looking forward to tomoz meal.

kirklancaster 04-08-2015 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 8042259)
You clearly were a crap waiter then and didn't make much in tips.

:joker:

kirklancaster 04-08-2015 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josy (Post 8042357)
LT struggling to accept that not everyone's a miserable ol git like him? :idc:

:joker::joker: Keep 'em coming.

kirklancaster 04-08-2015 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 8043293)
...you're tipping because it's a service thing, which is different to things like retail..someone has served you, yeah they get paid for that but they don't get paid accordingly to the level of service that's given, it's often left for the person being served to appreciate that and give accordingly...

...anyways, yes I tip at restaurants/taxis/hairdressers/any people working at my house/the guys who take my rubbish away and etc etc...sometimes it's a cash tip and sometimes it's a different type of gift...

mmmmm.....:laugh:

Amy Jade 04-08-2015 08:55 AM

If I go and eat somewhere and the service is good I think it's only fair to tip, the waiter/waitress work their asses off and get minimum wage.

We went to Mexico when I was 14 (my aunts wedding) and I stayed in a room with my cousin and the woman who came to clean the rooms was so so sweet, she gave us extra towels and she would always try speaking to us even though she did struggle with english and she even went out of her way to tidy up after us, obviously two teenagers make a mess but she would hang stuff up and idk she was just so attentive so we left her all our Peso's we had left because we will never go to Mexico again soon anyway it was about 800 pesos which is probably Ģ25 and when we did she cried her eyes out and hugged us and said she was so thankful and the money was going towards her children etc.

kirklancaster 04-08-2015 09:39 AM

I am in line with most on this thread, and always tip in restaurants when the meal and service has been good. If the waiter/waitress has been particularly pleasant and efficient I tend to leave a larger tip.

I do think, however, that LT is winding us all up to a degree in his mischievous way, because I do not believe that he is really the miserable old miser he would have us believe.

armand.kay 04-08-2015 09:44 AM

I normally just have enough for my meal I've never left a tip before.

Calderyon 04-08-2015 09:46 AM

Isnīt tip money a taxable income?

In here itīs called drink money or service money, and itīs not a standard procedure.

On here a average waitress pay is 1 921 € per month apparently.

armand.kay 04-08-2015 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 8042319)
I never tip, broke student and all.

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Calderyon 04-08-2015 11:51 AM

To add: Tipping isnīt a standard here and therefore people rarely give them. The people who do the service rarely ask for a tip too.

I have never tipped, but thatīs because i usually canīt afford to do so. And itīs because i have never been on a place where tipping is expected.

Crimson Dynamo 04-08-2015 12:27 PM

Once you can live with some waitress thinking you are a **** for not giving her money for no reason other than she was nice its easy to not leave a tip


you just have to punch through the storm to the other side, where it is sunny and you have more money

:spin:

lostalex 04-08-2015 12:36 PM

to me, someone who doesn't leave a tip at a restaurant, is like a guest at your house, if you cook for them, they don't bring any wine, they don't offer to help, they don't offer to wash afterwards,

it's just rude.

if you are being served you should be doing something to return the favor, and i'd rather pay a tip than do the dishes!

i always tip well. i actually get upset with my boyfriend when he doesn't.

Samuel. 04-08-2015 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 8042284)
it's nice innit

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This

Not something worth over thinking :shrug:

Babayaro. 04-08-2015 02:01 PM

It's nice to tip and it also doesn't matter if you don't. Who cares? :shrug:

Crimson Dynamo 04-08-2015 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babayaro. (Post 8043571)
It's nice to tip and it also doesn't matter if you don't. Who cares? :shrug:

Have you thought about a career in politics?


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