But yes if I ever have a Girlfriend they're gonna be the same age as me or older lol.

Saying the guy is in the wrong because he should have known is like saying a shop has a stall up saying free samples, you take one, then the call the cops on you for shop lifting, but that's ok because you should have known

From the information in the OP, it seems pretty clear that the girl lied, and has admitted lying. Therefore she presented herself as a 17 year old girl. If he was looking for someone younger, why would he contact the one who claims to be 17? That was my thought process on the matter.

This is more common than you seem to think. It just doesn't get police attention. I could tell you off the top of my head of at least half a dozen underage kids who are hooking up with 18/19 yr old boys, and that's just where I live. Whether they are lying about their age or not, I couldn't say... but girls at the 14/15 age range often look older, act older, dress older... and try to hook up with older boys.. It's been happening since I was that age, and no doubt before that... and I'm 41... so I don't get how you think this is such a unique incident.

Does the girl actually, objectively, look 17 though? Does she have a fully sexually mature body? Was her make up and hair done well enough to make her seem older? Is she socially mature for 14, carrying herself like an older girl?

It's not possible to judge without knowing these things. I all of the above is the case then I can see how he ended up in this situation. But if the above is NOT the case - if she does seem young - then the fact that "she sed she were 17 officer, honest!" isn't really going to cut it as an excuse.

In general, though, youngsters DO need to be more cautious if they're having brief sexual encounters, especially arranged online. All sorts of ways that someone might not be who they claim to be. Older, younger, just a con-artist after money or anything else (well-off teens being duped into sending expensive "gifts" is not uncommon).

Anyway, dificult one to pass comment on without actually seeing the girl (made up as she would have been in her pictures and to meet him). And those won't be made available, sooo...

You could go and stand outside your local high school at chucking out time and have a good look at some of the Year 9s. I met someone's daughter recently and thought, wow she looks young to have a daughter of that age, thinking she was 19 or 20. She was 13! My jaw was on the ground.

It's unfortunate

Yeah, I hope so, this case and ruling sounds ridiculous. It makes a mockery of genuine cases of paedaphilia/statatory rape cases

I keep trying but the staff have threatened to have me arrested :(.

so you are saying even you as a 41 y/o have been aware that some young girls lie about their age, and dress to look older... so there really is no excuse for this bloke to have not been aware that young girls lie. especially teenage girls. What man that's been alive for the last 30 years, let alone a 19 y/o who went to school with younger girls who looked much older. Of COURSE he knew that exists.

Is it enough of an excuse to say she lied? or did he just make sure she lied so he could get what HE wanted?

Since when is the blame to be put on kids instead of the adult???

Alex, we are not going to agree on this issue.

You could be 100% correct. Maybe he did know she was 14 and he is using the fact that she lied as his 'get out of jail free' card.

Or maybe he didn't know, and he was stupid enough to get duped.

I guess none of us really know which one it was.

either way, he's not going to do it again. ....hopefully.

and hopefully because of this example, countless other men will not **** 14 year old children too.

less men ****ing children is a good thing in my opinion!

women touch up men all the time but get away with it

Tbf that's not really the subject of the thread. It's a thread about statutory rape not men touching up women

.. tf are you on about? Are you in the wrong thread, mate?

now let's look at the population of the prisons.... how many women guilty of abusing men, raping men, murdering men??? compared to the guilty male population in prison of the same crimes?

please do the analysis for us...

mess

I get what you're saying Alex. If I serve an under-18 (gambling industry) it's me that can get a 6-month prison sentence or a £5000 fine, the person under 18 who has gambled isn't punished in any way. This is pretty obvious, because the entire point of the law is to protect young people, because they aren't yet fully able to protect themselves. That they will try to circumvent the law is fairly obvious - for exactly that reason - they are young and irresponsible, and so, it is up to us, as adults, to do our best to make sure they're protected.

simply because its not considered a crime when women grope men? which they do all the time....ive had my cock grabbed 100s of times.....and no I didn't bother going to the police not even when the woman was rich

i don't believe you.

you seem like the type of guy that would bitch and moan and report that kind of assault immediately if even just to prove your point.

i also don't believe it for other reasons, but it would be rude of me to explain further.

welp

To be disbelieved by a liar like you is a compliment, so thanks:wavey:

Hundreds of times? Hundreds?? Where have you been hanging around, truth :joker:.

Even when I was at Uni / out in clubs etc. a lot I can think of maybe 5 - 10 times when I've been "groped" by a random (usually an arse grab while stood at the bar).

It's literally never happened to me, nor any male I know, outside of a clubbing environment and I have to say Truth... you don't really strike me as a hardcore nightclub enthusiast?

thank you. it is very silly that somehow girls lying about their age when it comes to sex is treated differently. guess what, underage girls also lie about their age when they try to buy alcohol, but we never excuse bartenders for serving 14 y/o's just for claiming to be adults do we??

whereis this double standards coming from? it's coming from a patriarchy which imagines adult straight men are victims, and not children.

the concept of a child being more responsible for a crime than a grown adult man, it's ridiculous.

100s of times....deal with it

You at least have to explain in what sorts of circumstances this is happening! At the moment I'm left assuming that you must spend several hours a day hanging around under bridges with crack junkies...

truth, i really can't tell if you actually expect us to take you seriously, or if you are a sasha baron cohen type of troll that we should be laughing with...

lots of 18+ year old women have had sex with under 18 year old men, yet rarely if ever is this reported and you choose to ignore it, because you hate hetrosexual men

I don't understand where you find all these extremely desperate women who don't love themselves tbh.

I don't have to explain anything. Its partly the businesses Ive run and partly the situations ive been in. I speak the truth. and no im not a pimp:hehe:

no i don't hate heterosexual men, i hate child abusers.

I hate any situation in which an adult man is ****ing a 14 y/o child is abuse.

I'm confused by other people's definition of child abuse, i guess.

oh here comes the hero to pretend to now get offended on behalf of the entire female population just because I dare point out the fact women griope all the time...have you actually been to a gig packed with women? .lol desperate? ha ha they have good taste

yes only adult MEN but not adult women...sexist man hater:nono:

just out of curiosity, what have i lied about?

most people accuse me of being too honest, so i'm genuinely interested to know in what way you think i'm a liar.

The tastes of these imaginary women are certainly up for debate.

you've got a massive chips on both shoulders against all hetrosexual men...et you deny it and lie about it....you ignore all the abuses by men against women and adult women against boys, so youre a liar. this is of course just the tip of your iceberg of disingenuousness

That's a big word for a Monday.

i'm thinking he bumps into girls at a crowded bar and considers everyone he shoves out of his way sexually assaulting him.

ummm, sorry, but you are the liar. i have never defended adult women sleeping with underage boys, or adult men sleeping with boys either. sexuality and gender has nothing to do with my opinions on this matter, in fact i've even tried to be as gender neutral as possible. if an adult ****s a child, i'm very much against it.

I made a very specific point about the law being the law. no exceptions.