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arista 14-08-2015 03:30 PM

Well Said Dezzy

MTVN 14-08-2015 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8062282)
But then, every country involved in WW2 was involved in or complacent in war crimes by the end of the war... It was a very messy war. What happened happened. However, I do think it's hugely disrespectful to describe what happened to the innocent people of those two cities as anything but a tragedy. You can do that without going into whose "fault" it all was.

This is what I most agree with I think. The debate over how necessary the two bombs were will rumble on for generations. It's true that in the grand scheme of the WWII death toll the two nukes did not inflict incomprehensible loss of life: you can even stay in Japan and look at the fire bombing of Tokyo which killed up to 200,000. Yes, Japan committed appalling atrocities too and those should not be forgotten either. But the whole of WWII was horrific and we should not be afraid to say so: what sets the nuclear bombs apart is that they showcased the potential to obliterate entire cities in a flash in a way that had previously been inconceivable. There is no need to enter into a game of which side was worse to appreciate that and how it serves as a warning against ever engaging in global conflict to that level again.

Nedusa 15-08-2015 09:10 AM

Not sure why the dropping of these bombs provoke such a furore. Was it necessary to stop the war ? Yes, was it necessary to show Japan that they have no response to Americas latest weapons ? Yes. Would the threat of using it make Japan surrender , probably not.

So really the U.S. Had their hand forced and yes it is terrible that so called innocent people perished then at least it finally forced Japan to wake and see sense. However just to reinforce my earlier point about the strange mindset of the Japanese at that time, they actually refused to surrender after Hiroshima and forced the U.S. To drop a second bomb on Nagasaki.

So one could argue that the Japanese by not surrendering after Hiroshima actually sacrificed the lives of the civilians in the next city to be bombed ie Nagasaki.

The was not an act of terrorism as some on here have said. But rather an act of necessity bourne out of the ravages of six years of death and destruction in what seemed like a never ending war, a way to end the bloodshed.

arista 15-08-2015 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 8063922)
Not sure why the dropping of these bombs provoke such a furore. Was it necessary to stop the war ? Yes, was it necessary to show Japan that they have no response to Americas latest weapons ? Yes. Would the threat of using it make Japan surrender , probably not.

So really the U.S. Had their hand forced and yes it is terrible that so called innocent people perished then at least it finally forced Japan to wake and see sense. However just to reinforce my earlier point about the strange mindset of the Japanese at that time, they actually refused to surrender after Hiroshima and forced the U.S. To drop a second bomb on Nagasaki.

So one could argue that the Japanese by not surrendering after Hiroshima actually sacrificed the lives of the civilians in the next city to be bombed ie Nagasaki.

The was not an act of terrorism as some on here have said. But rather an act of necessity bourne out of the ravages of six years of death and destruction in what seemed like a never ending war, a way to end the bloodshed.


Yes Drop them
but on the Military Zones

thats the point of this threads.

arista 15-08-2015 09:36 AM

"Scares the **** out of me tbh. "

Yes Isis just need one in a van in a USA City

Livia 15-08-2015 05:22 PM

I thought this thread might have been busier today, with so many old soldiers remembering the dead and telling their stories on TV all day. But... no.

smudgie 15-08-2015 06:14 PM

The way I see it is the biggest/most powerful bombs won.
God knows Britain had enough bombs dropped on its inhabitants during the war.
In war it would be silly to think that only military targets are bombed.:shrug:

bots 15-08-2015 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 8063928)
Yes Drop them
but on the Military Zones

thats the point of this threads.

But as I explained,95% of civilians were part of the war effort during WW2, its not like things are today. When a country was at war, it was literally the whole country that was involved. So military zones (those areas contributing to the war effort) were across each country in every area.

arista 16-08-2015 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 8064383)
But as I explained,95% of civilians were part of the war effort during WW2, its not like things are today. When a country was at war, it was literally the whole country that was involved. So military zones (those areas contributing to the war effort) were across each country in every area.


Sure
but these were more wooden homes
with Children and Adults.


Yes The Whole Nation was at War
but there were No Major Military under these attacks

arista 16-08-2015 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 8064287)
The way I see it is the biggest/most powerful bombs won.
God knows Britain had enough bombs dropped on its inhabitants during the war.
In war it would be silly to think that only military targets are bombed.:shrug:


America Planned this for months
they could have dropped them on
Key Military Zones

Kizzy 16-08-2015 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8064259)
I thought this thread might have been busier today, with so many old soldiers remembering the dead and telling their stories on TV all day. But... no.

I was remembering my own father who served in Singapore at the time.


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