Looks like we're going to be increasing the number of refugees we're taking in x 3 times now, still not loads but any increase is positive

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I think it was the Czech leader who said that the main problem is that the EU is lying and than around 95% of the migrants are economic

So theyy are leaving their homes and paying smugglers 1000s because they're poor?...

The Hungarian opposition leader said that many of them appear to be (by their attire, mobiles and amount paid to travel) a lot wealthier than the average Hungarian!

So they're richer than most people in the countries they're risking their lives to get into..........makes sense :think:

Or... normal people trying not to get killed?

Is it not more about the people who are bringing them. If the smugglers did not exist perhaps people would not leave?

If the smugglers did not exist would the people in that area still be under threat?

So on the one hand the vast majority of them are economic migrants (i.e. fleeing poverty) but on the other many of them are quite wealthy? Why would the EU lie as well, if 95% of them were economic migrants that seems exactly the sort of thing they would want to be known if it gives a reason for countries to not have to take very many

Although I said it can't be hard to work out who is a refugee, I suppose there is a difficulty about when someone goes from being a refugee to an 'economic migrant'. How bad does your country have to be to qualify as the former? Surely people would concede that those from Syria and Libya are refugees? A lot of African migrants are from Eritrea which has North Korean levels of oppression but are they refugees? What about those from Sudan? The definitions can be blurred quite easily. I think Cameron has made a sensible start by pledging to accept more from refugee camps within Syria itself but there is no simple solution here.

No as
just go outside of near Syria
UN camps (they can walk to) No dodgy smuggles dingy needed
they will be the Legal people

http://thenewcontext.milanoschool.or...SIS_JORDAN.jpg

Kizzy this kid is legal

millions and millions of people live under threat and dont move, maybe they would if bastards told them that there is a land of milk and honey at the end of £500?

Saw this posted on Facebook, I love these guys :laugh:

Rubberbandits
Just now ·

If anyones going to Electric Picnic this weekend and has bought a temporary tent. Collapse your tent and donate it to the Cork/Dublin-Calais Refugee Volunteers at the Global Green from 10am Monday. Tents are badly needed. (if you'd like to post underneath this "what about the Irish homeless people lads?" . Then give your tent to a homeless person on the drive home instead, or in your hometown)

I heard that 1800 migrants arrived in Ireland and after 1 week they have decided to try their luck back in Syria!

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Thank goodness for that , for a moment there I thought I had missed the 9 other World Wars.....lol:laugh:

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I meant to put WWII :fist:

Another thing Kizzy

What the PM is doing guarantees the people
in the UN camps (just outside of Syria)
are Proper Refugees that will come to the UK.


In that Utter Mess in Europe
Migrants are mixed up in the Refugees
and learn what to say.


So I say well done PM

Hungary Update:

Many Illegals have now started to walking to Austria
a 2 day walk,approx 90miles, if they make it alive.

Ch5HD News : showed a video from
the Hungary Refugee Camp
it was terrible mess,
many said in the Near Syria UN Camps it was better
than the Hungary Camp

the fact that europe could end up like syria ten times worse, if we don't stop with this mass invasion, eu's open door policy, is a huge danger to us,

Yes but Our PM
its doing it his way
Not the German Feck Up

I would like to know how many refugees the USA, Canada and Australia are going to take. There are 26 million people in Australia, three times as many people that live in London spread out across a whole continent. They could take a million, they have the space.

I think it's a world wide problem too Livia, even though they're on European soil, i do believe that the USA, Canada and Australia could help alleviate the migrant crisis, it's shocking really that it's got to this state.

My daughter did say that Russia has plenty of land why don't they give some of it to the migrants, i then went on to explain that Putin doesn't share:laugh:

As i said to Kizzy, i'd be more than willing to give up my citizenship in the UK for Canadian citizenship, that would be 4 spaces going in the UK.

Haha Ruby... I know what you mean about Canada. Not sure that idea's going to fly though.

I'm waiting for Germany to tell the USA they're not doing enough... and the USA telling Germany to do one.

Look what Australia did to our post war orphans...I wouldn't trust them with a dingo.
Canada seems to be adopting the Conservative model so watch out for them selling arms to tyrants and becoming as hypocritical as we are in the future.

Hungary Tells Germany To Stop Taking Refugees

The country's PM criticises Berlin for encouraging "millions" more to descend on Europe - and claims many have no case for asylum.

http://news.sky.com/story/1548073/hu...aking-refugees

The USA will be like,
"They can have Mexico."

And Mexico will be like,
"Eh? What? Mexico is an independent country and we refuse to let them have Mexico!"

And Germany will be like,
"So can they have Mexico?"

And the USA will be like,
"They can have Mexico."

But wait there's a really cool list on another thread that says the US takes loads of people..
'11 United States 321,766,000 763 1215 '

Maybe nobody says they're not doing enough because they are?

exactly... not to mention when's the last time Europe offered to take in any of the 11 million illegals we already have in this country...

As soon as the EU agrees to help with the 11 million illegals we already have, they can go do a flying flip off the highest building if they claim we should be doing more to help them.

the fact that we are already doing so much is worthy of nothing but praise.

Oh dear... there appears to be some confusion over the statistics on the other thread. Let me explain that final figure amongst all those other figures...

11 United States - 1215 citizens per individual refugee.

16 United Kingdom - 319 citizens per individual refugee.

The UK has four times as many refugees as the USA. That's refugees in general. No one's saying that the USA has no refugees, but the fact is that they do not seems to have been called upon to take Syrian refugees because for some reason it's looked upon as a European problem.

you got that backwards...the US has taken in 4 times as many as the UK you meant to say...

and it is a European problem because that's where they are fleeing to. I haven't heard about a ton of boats sailing across the atlantic towards North America...SO it IS a European problem. the same way the Mexican border is an American problem...

No, I didn't get it wrong.

There are 1200 Americans to every 1 refugee
There are 300 Brits to every 1 Reguee.

If the USA had as many as us, you'd have 1200 Americans to every 4 refugees.

There's been a lot of talk on here about how we should take responsibility for displaced people due to conflict because we were involved. Well, yes we were, and we were involved with our great allies the USA so by the logic of some people, the USA should be taking their share... although the involvement of both of our countries in Syria is negligible... you know the reactionary opinions in here.

...And then the millions and millions of ILLEGALS secreted in BOTH countries - of which BOTH countries governments only admit to a fraction of.

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Good morning, Kirk.

Although USA Immigration are a little less chaotic and disorganised than we are, I don't mind admitting.

Oh dear... the outdated wiki page is causing some issues, if we rely on the up to date info we have for the UKs intake of refugees the number was I believe just over 200... The PM has been forced to amend this and we await the amended figures.

Good morning my lovely Liv.

Yes - I agree, the US are more efficient than we are in that area. But then Botswana probably is too. :hehe:

Are Botswana bombing in Syria too?

Ah Kirk... new intelligence. We can only take refugees from countries we have bombed, no matter the reasons for the bombing. That should save us quite a bit, then.