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shinystar 18-01-2007 11:26 PM

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BIG BROTHER is supporting racism and turning a blind eye to it. I cannot believe such ignorants and channel4 is probably encouraging the act.

I cannot believe such channels encourage such acts. BIG BROTHER is breeding a new HITLER.

Shilpa is reportedly denied it not racism simply out of sympathy because she is being watched and BIG BROTHER a snake.
the only thing they are turning a blind eye to is shipla comments to other members.... ie "white trash remark" all the fuss is focused around shipla all the time and i think its unfair she should be hauled off to the diary room and asked why she made certain comments about other members..Im sorry if i was refered to as white trash i would consider it to be a racist comment but we dont get the protection or the fuss put on us we have to live with it all the time.....
I haven't heard these words come from Shilpa and that did not happened but it could be from another contestant. Either way, if you’re talking about fairness then you would need to consider how this racist behaviour was brought about. I mean, what did Shilpa do at the beginning to go down this road? You have to ask yourself the question. Did she go out of her way to cause offence to other people culture or country?

Jade Goofy, Danielle Lloyd and Jo O'Meara all pounced on an innocent girl to degrade her in all manners and form along with her country and others.

“Jo O'Meara” said do Indians eat with their fingers? And someone I think Danielle muttered Or is that Chinese? What sort of comment is that? That a comment to degrade a country in all form. I buy a portion of Chips “Opened” so am I suppose to eat that from a dog bowl and not use my fingers? Because that what dogs do! Or how about a sandwich?

Now, in the second or third day running someone is using the word, "White Trash"?

I would say if anyone is now using that remark this would have been brought out from a person un-subconscious level which clearly states this is about racism. Normally, if you’re going to argue, dignified people will use similar words against each other. If it a racist issue, then in one un-subconscious mind then one would use a racist term to degrade the other since this is what it really about. So now it clear - this whole ordeal is about racism and you have solidified the truth.

Dan_ 18-01-2007 11:29 PM

I thought it was Jermaine that used the term 'white trash' anyway, that was a term he used to say what they would be called in America.

Seeing as it's an American phrase I'd be suprised if it was Shilpa using it.

S2 18-01-2007 11:31 PM

^Shilpa did not use that term or anyting similiar to it either.

In regards to eating with your hands, how do you eat chips? crisps? A McDonalds meal? Don't tell me we are meant to use a knife and fork for that?

The_Hitman 18-01-2007 11:36 PM

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Originally posted by BB fernzy
I thought it was Jermaine that used the term 'white trash' anyway, that was a term he used to say what they would be called in America.

Seeing as it's an American phrase I'd be suprised if it was Shilpa using it.
Yes, but these Goody fans are using the same philosophy as Jade.

LIES.

Theyre spreading lies all over this forum.

Dan_ 18-01-2007 11:42 PM

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Originally posted by BB fernzy
I thought it was Jermaine that used the term 'white trash' anyway, that was a term he used to say what they would be called in America.

Seeing as it's an American phrase I'd be suprised if it was Shilpa using it.
Yes, but these Goody fans are using the same philosophy as Jade.

LIES.

Theyre spreading lies all over this forum.
I know, it seemed that some were trying to make out Jermaine to be racist over the whole white trash phrase when all he was doing was describing how they would be perceived in America.

Red Moon 18-01-2007 11:53 PM

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I dont't mean to be rude but please don't bring religion to show a point. Bush is scum, his father too, so his scum ways will lead him to his death.
I agree about Bush not being a nice person. But bringing religion into the this discussion about the show is as valid as bring in the race card. We could also bring in the nationalist card, or regionalist card and many more. We could say every time a housemate makes a comment that Joe comes from Essex it is regionalist insult. How many times have the group of three been insulted on the site with statements to where they come from. Indeed at one point the whole of Britain was said to be racist which can't be true. Without checking I guess you come from Britain and you are not racist.

Everything is said in some kind of context. Bush believes what he does is right because on 9/11 and he thinks the whole of the Islamic world is out to get America. That is his context for his opinion.

What you saw on the show and how Shilpa is treated is you context for your views. Shilpa's context is different because she is in the house. Who is right in this issue, well neither of you. The truth is somewhere between the two. You are not in the house and Shilpa hasn't seen everything. The truth, you must agree, is somewhere in the middle. You are just an observer while she is the player. And even as an observer you are only allowed to see what the producers want you to see.

Nothing is clear cut. Yes Shilpa is good housemate, Jade is in the wrong but at the end of the day it's just a game show. It's important because it has fueled this discussion in the UK.

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There will be culture clashes, yes, but this game is equal to all, and all should be protected too. Whether they are aware of it or not. Like how they did with Jade and Danielle, they made them aware of the goings on and their actions. Have they donw that with Shilpa? Have they told her the horrid names she has been caled? No!!!
They made them aware of the problem because 27,000 people complained to Ofcom and they had to do something. If the people didn't want them to do something why complian. Now they have done something people are complaining about it. Channel 4 can't win.

Until we see the whole of the Shilpa Diary room we will never know if they showed her everything we have seen. Maybe we will never know. But what I do know is we have the chance to vote out Jade. So lets do it.

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Originally posted by Shilpa_FanEndamol are protecting jade for various reasons other than the fact she shares the same agent as Russel, Dermot etc who are also quick to defend Jade yet brush everyone elses comments that are anti-Jade.

What a bunch of moronic weak losers
People love conspiracy theories . Endamol are in it to make money. The more the show is noticed the more money they make in future. And the higher the share price. Do they care about Jade, I don't think so or they wouldn't have let her go back in the house to make a fool of herself. They just wanted more viewers.

shinystar 19-01-2007 01:33 PM

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If they are not supporting it why are they denying the facts? Jade Goofy bf called Shilpa a pa**. Ain't that a racist word in the dictionary? Check here: http://dictionary.cambridge.org/defi...7124&dict=CALD
Channel 4 and BBC news confirmed that Jack called Shilpa a "*******". Derogative, yes, racist, no.
Even if Jack called her a **** or **** it all very obvious and you will probably never know the truth because they probably edited or dubbed the words. Jack, Jade Goofy, Danielle Lloyd and Jo O'Meara are all part of a racist crime. They grouped together over laughing at each other jokes/comments when it not even funny just to cause maximum humiliation. They are not just any jokes but indirect racist jokes which are closely connected to being a foreigner.

You don't need to say the words because racism is written all over their body language. The body language never lies. If you can't see the hurt that they have caused then your ignorant is bliss.

ttw 19-01-2007 01:48 PM

I don't think Jack called Shilpa a p***, Ch4 are not that stupid as to do so as they themselves know it they get caught they are in massive trouble for knowing and not taking action.

And IF he did say it, they could have easily changed camera angles so you only hear the bleep in order to disguise it and as to avoid lip readers.

hass 19-01-2007 01:50 PM

so just by her body language you can tell she is racist? get a grip. if i snarl someone in the street, it might be simply because i dont like them, not because they are black.

shinystar 19-01-2007 01:55 PM

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I don't think Jack called Shilpa a p***, Ch4 are not that stupid as to do so as they themselves know it they get caught they are in massive trouble for knowing and not taking action.

And IF he did say it, they could have easily changed camera angles so you only hear the bleep in order to disguise it and as to avoid lip readers.
If channel4 arn't that stupid they should have removed Jade the new breed of Hitler from the house to show racsim isn't tolerated. Instead they let it brew which goes to show they support it.

ttw 19-01-2007 01:56 PM

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Originally posted by hass
so just by her body language you can tell she is racist? get a grip. if i snarl someone in the street, it might be simply because i dont like them, not because they are black.
agree

ttw 19-01-2007 01:57 PM

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I don't think Jack called Shilpa a p***, Ch4 are not that stupid as to do so as they themselves know it they get caught they are in massive trouble for knowing and not taking action.

And IF he did say it, they could have easily changed camera angles so you only hear the bleep in order to disguise it and as to avoid lip readers.
If channel4 arn't that stupid they should have removed Jade the new breed of Hitler from the house to show racsim isn't tolerated. Instead they let it brew which goes to show they support it.
Jade had not made any racial remarks

hass 19-01-2007 01:58 PM

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Originally posted by naughtynert
yes and if jade get evicted then people in england are not allowed free speech or argue with an member of the asain community without being branded a racist?... shipla hasnt been the angel some people claim either, so will her actions be accepatble if jade goes?

Even shilpa's mother has said her daughter has been wrapped in cotton wool and had most things done for her for most of her life and she dosent think its racial within the big bro house and she's been watching the show..so has seen how her daughter has behaved too.
Exactly.

shinystar 19-01-2007 02:55 PM

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Originally posted by ttw
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so just by her body language you can tell she is racist? get a grip. if i snarl someone in the street, it might be simply because i dont like them, not because they are black.
agree
Given the verbal abuse along with body language that been portrayed that creates a recipe for racism. What you describe yourself to others is plain arrogant and ignorance to a civilise society.

shinystar 19-01-2007 03:07 PM

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I don't think Jack called Shilpa a p***, Ch4 are not that stupid as to do so as they themselves know it they get caught they are in massive trouble for knowing and not taking action.

And IF he did say it, they could have easily changed camera angles so you only hear the bleep in order to disguise it and as to avoid lip readers.
If channel4 arn't that stupid they should have removed Jade the new breed of Hitler from the house to show racsim isn't tolerated. Instead they let it brew which goes to show they support it.
Jade had not made any racial remarks
Calling someone a Popperdom to mark the origins of where you from? What has that got to do with any arguments? That indirectly reciting racism.

And it not just Jade, it a group activity pouncing on a victim to degrade her in the lowest manner possible. Big brother has no doubt brought out the dark side of this group.

Bahn 19-01-2007 03:12 PM

I think they were hoping for nice tabloid style fighting where wotshitfaces from S Club 7 and Steps would round on the journalist and start saying "Why did you write this about me?". I imagine the whole race hate thing wasn't planned.

Maybe I'm being naive, but I don't think so, they lost their sponsor.

shinystar 19-01-2007 06:07 PM

BIG BROTHER is breaking their own rules to ban crowd and providing advice to evictees as reported by BBC here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6277875.stm

If there not going to follow their traditional BIG BROTHER eviction style procedures that goes against the morals of Shilpa enduring taunting remarks.

It seems very apparent BIG BROTHER is playing the racism game their way.

I think the moral of BIG BROTHER is unjustified. If they want to show support they should have pulled Jade a very long time ago but it was greed and money that fuels BIG BROTHER until their sponsor pulled out.


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