it didn't relate to what i said tho

Well it depends what she was under arrest for. :think:

If she'd just murdered a dinner lady then all the power to him.

I'd like to see what happened in the 30 minutes preceding that video.

It did (joy)

I just knew before I clicked on the thread that the girl would be black. Just one more case to add to the mountain of incidents involving police brutality towards black people.

She wasn't physically resisting him, the police officer was completely in the wrong.

Now, is that because there is a problem with black people being targeted or the internet is obsessed with violence against black people?

Neither, it's because there is video evidence of officers not adhering to procedure and abusing people.

Probably more to do with the fact that nearly all cases of police brutality that come to light involve black victims. There's been so many over the past few years in particular that it's hard to deny that it's a valid problem.

But she just sat there, she didn't even attack him for them to wrestle her down.. He took advantage of his job...

But as Livia said, we only saw a 30 second clip.

He might have been stood trying to remove her from the room for half an hour beforehand.

It's like on Big Brother, how differently we perceive situations depending on how heavily it's been edited. I'm sure you could edit a tonne of footage to make it appear for 30 seconds that Helen Wood was victimised every night during BB15. But we know this wasn't the case. :laugh:

It wasn't even that bad, people acting like he beat her to near death for removing her from a chair

It doesn't really matter, the situation obviously didn't escalate to such a point where violence would be needed previously otherwise she'd have been taken down and removed when it escalated not after it had settled down to a point when she was calmly sitting at her desk.

The cop obviously didn't stick to procedure, throwing someone down to the floor using their desk and them dragging them around is not how you arrest someone who isn't offering physical resistance.

So that's how you want to attempt to justify it, with some bizarre hypothetical? ok.

Where have I justified it?

It's not a bizarre hypothetical, it's a fact. 30 second footage from a situation we were not involved with doesn't tell us anything. How long had the police officer been standing there before the clip started? What happened before the clip started? Etc etc.

He hardly battered her. He did what any police officer would do, drag the person resisting.

But, as I said earlier, those ridiculous desks used in American schools trapped her legs inside of it.

Fact?... you see the facts, you're speculating on something you can't see.

I said it's a fact that we see only 30 seconds of this situation.

Take a snapshot of anything and it can distort any picture.

If you let your imagination run away with you that will distort it too.

I haven't imagined anything. Unlike some, I haven't jumped to a conclusion based on 30 seconds of footage uploaded to twitter.

Jumped to a conclusion?... I see what is there, not what isn't is all.

You've deduced who is in the wrong and who isn't, that is a conclusion.

I haven't. And don't see anything. I don't let twitter make my decisions for me.

Didn't you jump to the conclusion it was to do with race

Exactly. The ones that "come to light" depend on the medias agenda at any given time.

I see what is before my eyes, if you choose to be blinkered that is your issue.

The post you responded to was a question directed at Dezzy about his own opinion, I don't think you're quite qualified to answer on his behalf.

I stated a fact, it was a black student.

Why was that relevant?

What is blinkered about what I said?

That I won't let a 30 second twitter video convince me that a particular police officer was acting out of racism?

As I said before, I haven't reached any conclusion about the situation because I don't let twitter tell me what to deduce from the video.

I'll post as and when I see fit on a topic, it's the nature of discussion forum, this isn't a private conversation is it?

No but you can't exactly answer a question about Dezzy's own personal thoughts on a topic can you? Are you inside his head?

Who mentioned racism? I didn't. I see an officer abusing a student as that is all there is to see.

Did I attempt to? You're veering off topic here.

Yes. :joker: You answered a question directed specifically towards Dezzy's opinion.

It's one of the possibilities being discussed in this thread and you yourself saw fit to discuss the fact that the schoolgirl was black on page 1. :shrug:

If you only wanted dezzys opinion send him a PM... This is a public forum.

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A mess at the playing dumb when the facts are there to see

No, I questioned his opinion, hence the reason I quoted him.

That is a fact, she is Black.

The police officer's white, what's your point? :conf: