Yeah, he brings in the headlines and promo. That's why the producers kept him.

Rita said the same thing didn't she? before voting to save him

Nick sabotaged Seann.

The judges have no power apart from Simon.

Same reason they kept Katie Waissel so many times. At least Mason can actually sing. :laugh:

yes, she did.

The later has anything to do with the former so why bring it up like it's a counter argument?

Why's nobody questioning the fact it was Nick's vote that sent it to deadlock and the public who didn't vote for him? :laugh:

That's hardly Rita's fault.

You have a point. :laugh:

But the producers decided to take it to Deadlock to get the result they wanted. They look at the voting figures and tell that judges to act accordingly.

I've been saying this on the other thread, but Nick is their mentor so he gets no blame. When he had a choice in save Seann or taking the risk in sending him home.. Deadlock = the better one goes.

i knew nick would take it to deadlock. There's noway he was going to send home one of his boys.

And that's another reason why it's bizarre to single Rita out. :laugh:

Other than Simon, i think? Isn´t he one of the producers?

Yeah, blame the producers, the judges have no power anyway. They're just there to film promos with the contestants. They don't pick who goes through to lives or who goes home or even what they sing.

Gamu gate was deffo the producers doing and Cheryl got all the blame and got called a racist..

I liked her in the Voice but I have gone right off her. It was clear as day that based on either the sing off or the show so far that Mason should have been sent home. Her styling of Monica was awful and she is wearing the most horrible dresses I have ever seen.

She is extremely pretty but she should sack her stylist. Grimmy nearly has more cop on in chosing songs that she does and he doesn't even SING

She went on preference of Music rather than who did better in the sing-off.

She even admitted that Seann did better in the sing-off but still voted him off anyway, so that imo should see her sacked but it won't happen.

Because the public are thick and think that it's Big Brother meets America's Next Top Model.

If the public vote wrongly and put someone more talented last in the vote out of the bottom two, then it's up to the judges to rectify that and save the more talented acts, that's the whole point of the bottom two system even being there, not to embarrass the talented act by also letting them know that the public didn't vote for you at all and you're therefore eliminated whilst an act that's been **** in week 1, 2, and the sing-off is still in the competition.

Or the public felt angry/sorry for the acts that were sabotaged. Anton isn't the best looking and was the worst last night because Simon sabataged him.

This isn't about people being sabotaged, Seann was one of only two acts that even sung in tune on Saturday night so for him to even be in contention to be in the bottom three let alone 10th out of 11 is bang out of order from the public, and it shows that they're not voting based on the performances because if they was Anton would've been in the bottom three, and Seann would've been in the top five.

Who knows if it's really the judges choice, producers can easily tell them what to do

Sacked? :laugh:

There are no hard and fast rules on what they must vote for in the sing-off.

Simon changes every week, sometimes bases it on the sing-off, sometimes on who has the most potential, who is more popular with the audience etc etc.

The show is a mess, but it always has been.

Either way they're not thinking smartly as all of the alternative choices to that cliched top 4 are being removed or sabotaged.

The producers should be trying to make an entertaining show, not remove all of the interesting ones because the public are unprofessional.

Simon has never said "you sang better in the sing-off but I'm sending you home anyway" so what was the point of Seann singing in that sing-off if Rita just openly is gonna say to him that she wasn't going to save him anyway?

Well that's obvious how else would john and edward beat lucy, how else would katie beat everyone for 8 weeks, how did wagner get so far?.. But the finals always have the people who are great.. Anton got saved because he was sabotaged

Well, actually, he sent Laura White home despite her singing better in the sing-off against Jedward so.....

I'm sure I remember him saving Rylan over actually talented acts too.

Anyway, as I said, she obviously wanted to save the act she had more investment in, saw more potential with, personally liked more. But then that's all they're there for, to give their own opinion on the act.

As I said, it's very few occasions any of them base their "decisions" on the actual performance in the sing-off.

Marsh you mean Lucie :laugh:

:hmph:

Laura White / Lucie Jones. Same difference.

Well considering that was against Ruth Lorenzo then no she didn't.:laugh:

And Simon wasn't technically around when Rylan was around but I do get what you mean.

And I personally feel that unless the act has hit the bottom two a ridiculous amount of times then it should be judged based on the sing-off, the right result happened last week, but the wrong one definitely happened this week and I don't even see how that can even come down to an opinion when Mason was out of tune.

Diana Vickers... Are we naming x factor contestants?

Well obviously it must come down to opinion, since, even though I can't stand Mason Noise.

I really do not like him one bit, but I wouldn't say he was "out of tune". :unsure:

I would have sent seann home over Mason myself tbh

..I think that she kind of did/sabotage in that, that's what she was meant to do..two votes for Seann to stay, so we think it's Seann staying and then Rita votes Maison and what's his name takes it to deadlock...cheeky old Simon, it's all about the dramz and any publicity is good publicity, etc etc...

..and poor Rita..

Never mind poor Rita :fist: she is made her pact with the devil and now she has to pay up even if it means going against her own instincts and losing her integrity. She s a disloyal little madam at any rate jumping ship from the Voice, she looks super uncomfortable at times and a little disengaged, forgetting who Monica was when she introduced her :hmph:

..:laugh:..yeah, when she signed her XFactor contract with Simon so now that devil owns her and when she's meant to vote controversially...:whistle:....

You are so right Marsh.

Any blame lies squarely at Nick's feet. NO 'Judge' should EVER be allowed to cop out from making a judgement, it makes a complete nonsense of having 'Judges' in the first place.

Nick's cowardice caused the better and most consistant singer to be sent home - no matter whether he was secretly obeying orders from Cowell or the producers - his failure to judge was responsible.

The whole show is becoming a disaster zone, what with Cowell and the other judges pathetic, unprofessional dithering and 'U' turns during the abysmal '6 chair challenge', and increasingly bizarre incidents such as this.

Does anyone REALLY believe the viewers voting statistics? I don't, because I believe, that like all 'Reality TV' this show is scripted to some degree and it's less about what the public decide and more about what the producers tell us the public has decided.

As crapola as the show is, it is worthwhile, because it DOES give to us GENUINE stars such as Fleur East and Leonna Lewis, and it's worth any Sean fans (I'm one) remembering, that often it is the 'also rans' in this show who subsequently emerge as real stars and who eclipse the crapola winners.

Seann Miley Moore's future is assured.