I guess number ones are flops now!

her latest song*

CSL and I Don't care went to number 1

and her album went to number 7

Didn't Only Human reach #10 too?

Oops maybe not

it went to #70 i think but people already that song on their playlists because of the album.

Only human #70 oops

Cheryl is joint with Jess Glynne with having the most number ones by a British Female

I think two #1s make up for a flop 3rd in the same era :joker:

Shall we talk about Tulisa's latest era not even picking up? :fan:

Pretty much all of her #1 came from Simon pimping her on his shows :hehe:

Call My Name wasn't performed on X Factor :spin:

Cheryl's latest single did flop, her husband even blamed her management for it and caused a bit of dram over it. Her support has been on the slide for the last 12 - 16 months imo, she came across badly in 2014's X Factor and even her die hard stans seem to have moved on

:smug:

Reece bring back Music Debates!

!!!

Little Mix vs FH is needed

her entire solo career never really picked up lets be honest

But she used the Voice all her #1 have come from appearances on Talent shows :hehe:

All of LM can sing, only one can in FH so what is there to debate?

True but still

I prefer LM's songs too

The masses weren't here for a re-up

LM will always have a better career then FH they sre more likeable and release good music

She still has a career, her next single will most likely go to number 1

Of course Jess will get her next song to #1

I actually prefer Sledgehammer and Worth it to any LM song

An indie revival?

You like Rita Ora though so... :fan:


obviously joking to each their own etc

Little Mix seem more like a group than 5H if that makes sense

I'm talking about tulisa

oh flop, yeah she will definitely flop, she has no career anymore

Not Tulisa flopping defiantly

But this suggests that everyone who performs on talent shows go to #1, which isn't the case. She had a big leg up with her judging role but her popularity extends out further than the x factor fan base

Poor ha! :fan:

Rita has proved this to be false, has she ever had a number one since Calvin Harris dumped her for better (and cleaner) things?

She was riding off the back of The Voice and X Factor, too.

Cheryl and Rita are both now celebrities who happen to have music careers. The problem is that the UK doesn't produce popstars in the vein of American popstars so measuring them against each other is stupid - Jess Glynne has never done a choreographed performance in her life like Britney Spears but obviously the former would sing circles round the latter. The UK's all about the voice and the look rather than the performance artist spectacle and look so America brings out incredible all rounders who are the best at everything and that is celebrated and supported; whereas the UK is all about being a bit rough around the edges, we like to support the underdog, we like a bit of vulnerability and humility... it's why someone like Cher Lloyd is reviled in the UK for being up herself and cocky but managed to make some waves in the US for being confident and believing in herself... unfortunately, she can't dance and she's not that hot so she was never going to sell too well.

I mean, really, when have we ever produced a Beyonce or a Pink, somebody worth supporting for over a decade?

Alexandra could sing and dance

I think with Cheryl though, when she joined the x factor she suddenly became a household name (which she wasn't before even with the success of girls aloud) and she was branded 'the nations sweetheart' etc, and people just fell in love with her a bit because she came across really well, and all of that gave her solo career a massive boost on it's launch. Whereas Rita's situation is different, in terms of where her careers at but also in that the X Factor doesn't have the same influence it did when Cheryl joined, and just personality wise, she's very different to Cheryl. So I'm not saying that a judging role will always give someone a leg up in the industry, I just think that specifically with Cheryl it did.

I actually think Cher Lloyd calmed down, her 2nd album was much way mature but it flopped, is which a shame because it's better than her 1st album which did respectfully well.

As much as I'm not really a fan, Ellie has a good couple of years left