Gender roles are a social construct

It's all very well typing sound bites like that but when you have kids and see the benefits they get from their mother,Specially with boys then experience says otherwise.There is no substitute for a mothers love and a fathers.I'm sure two males or females can do an adequate job but is adequate good enough?I would prefer the best possible enviroment.But hey that might just be me.
People wanting kids VS Best enviroment for kids to grow into balanced adults.
The latter wins for me.Some people seem to think having children is a right,No matter the consequences.

What a load of rubbish. Whether or not parents are good or not depends how they dedicate themselves to their children, not the gender of each of them.

Nobodies saying they can't be "good" parents.However two good mums or two good dads just is'nt the same as a good mum and dad.

Why? Because they're gay? That automatically makes them less capable of raising children?

But these children, if not adopted, have NO mum and dad. Surely its better to have 2 mums, or 2 dads, or even one mum or one dad...than having no parents at all and growing up in care :S

Makes zero sense, you don't get an option biologically.

The guy is a prat, that's the summary of this debate.

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Perhaps he thinks the child should have a right to have an actual mother. You know, like all mammals do. It's kind of the normal run of events.

Children don't get a say in anything, it's not a valid reason to think gay couples shouldn't adopt.

should have moved it to serios debates.



can you post that link again please jet.

Its not homophobic though, he didn't say he hates them.

:joker:

Can i ask a mod why all the paedophile discussion has been deleted?

People who say a child should have both a mother and father probably have a lot to say about single parents then?

I'm not in agreement that a mother and father are needed to bring up a respectable child. As long as a child has a loving and safe home life, that's all that matters.

As for the pathetic excuse for a man that is Winston, I stopped caring from the homophobic comment made in his VT

Not all single parents but staatistics do prove that children brought up by single mothers go on to lead a less satisfactory lifestyle than those brought up by a mother and father.

But there is no statistics to say children in same-sex families are brought up with less satisfactory lives by those in traditional relationships. I wrote an essay on this.

pretty much my thoughts exactly

It begins, gay adoption to lone parents in 3 pages :/

What about lesbians?

And it isn't even serious debates :joker:

I have no idea why you singled my post out considering single parents were mentioned posts and posts ago and I'm merely pointing out some statistics?

Well i do know actually but i would get an infraction for mentioning the forum clique, so i wont.:sleep:

What are women better at? What are men better at?

These patriarchal societal rules are being rewritten, there in essence is nothing that one gender is and better or worse at than the other, it's gender socialisation that perpetuates these 'norms'.

D: You want to tie a discussion about paedophilia into a thread about gay adoption?

What the actual **** is going on here!!!

Because it was all incredibly offensive. Came across as if the view was that paedophiles pose as gay couples in order to adopt a child to abuse.

What do you want me to say?

Im not sure i see anyone apart from winston saying they don't.

wont someone think of the children?

And this is rubbish.Just because people want everything to be perfectly equal guess what....... They are not.Genetics dictate otherwise.Men and women both have their strengths and weaknesses.That's life.

:joker:

You mentioned the word statistics, I haven't seen any...
You are the OP that's why, there was a comparison earlier I must have missed it, it wasn't personal :/

Everyone is someone else's bigot.

Loving the skimming use of facts here. It's just genetics guys! Single parents are bad! Accept it! Move on!

The discussion was that some would, only fools would think otherwise vicky. Couldnt it have been moved to serious debates, is it still possible to do that or are they all deleted for good..thanks for the reply though, and your right, we dont want to upset those paedophiles when there's an aging old dinasour to attack.

No, individuals have their strengths and weaknesses, collectively genders are neither weak nor strong.

Yeah this was the reason...don't want to upset paedos by insinuating that they are gay :umm2:

And no, deleted posts are still here. I don't think the way a lot of them were worded would make a decent SD thread though tbh. Was all rather inflammatory and accusatory at times too.

The thread is actually about wether gay adoption is child abuse and seeing as paedophilia is child abuse then i thought it was a natural link to make, pity the mods deleted all posts made from all points of view last night because you could then have made a better judgement before being all aghast.

But is that not just in your eyes? Or whoever deleted them. Cant you put them back up and let the forum users decide?

As far as im aware there was no insulting. It is a subject i and many on here feel very strongly about.

People asked are you serious...

This was the level of intellect of the discussion of pedos on this thread last night. Granted this was only the start, or how it was brought up. It went on for several posts...pretty much the same way

Paedophiles were randomly brought up. Then it was discussed about how they could get together and pose as a gay couple to get a child to abuse. It was pointed out that paedophilia is not limited to gays and is evenly spread between homos and heteros...yet the link between gay adoption and paedophiles continued to be made.


Anyone else that thinks that this conversation was at all relevant to the matter at hand or could possibly have gone anywhere besides offending a ****load of people for no reason, feel free to tell me. I will also ask another mod to look over this thread and re-instate the original posts if they feel I was wrong. But I really don't feel I was.

Incredible that my posts were deleted. They were only links to two relevant news articles in the IBTimes and the DailyMail.

The censorship on here is unbelievable.