Yes. I hadn't because she's off my radar until she releases music but after seeing this topic I did my research and I half agree and half disagree.

Which artists does she think deserve nomination and who over is something I would like to ask.

Also didn't Lily sort of void her own thoughts with the try-hard comment 'I've never heard of him'?

Nobody in particular, she slammed the process as a whole for ignoring black british artists. Given the year it has been for the (re)breakthrough of grime, she's hardly wrong.

Grime has never been recognised at the Brits :shrug: they aim for mainstream music and it won't change

I mean in the last few months alone Stormzy's latest single went top 10 and Krept & Konan's album got to #2

Compared to the other artists who are up? That's nothing

well given how grime has kinda gone mainstream that was kind of my point but yeah

Why is it such a negative thing to play a Guitar?:laugh:

But I agree that out of all the Indie/Folk singers that we've got around at the minute I truly do not understand why his one of the biggest.

Hasn't the Brits always been a bit more mainstream?

Honestly it comes across as her just moaning in general, if the MOBOS ignored Grime I would see the point.

I mean yeah #2 is nothing compared to #1, so far apart

Compared to, say, Eagles of Death Metal who've never had a UK top 40 single and Amy Winehouse, who's been dead for five years?

but grime has hit mainstream the past year, that's exactly the point because it's still going unrecognised in favour of people with guitars who make for perfect BBC Radio 1 fodder.

Has it? All I can think of is Stormyz who didn't even perform well in the charts.

lmao :joker:

What do you want them to do? That song has reached #1 but it's their only song to chart this year but we best include them because of their skin colour so people don't go mad and forget about that one who has had 3 top tens and a hit album

Well yes he did because he got to #8 in the week of the Christmas number one race

Eagles of Death Metal was a stupid decision because of what happened and Amy Winehouse had a film about her and I'm sure a #1 album

unlike James Bay who didn't have a top fourty single last year :think:

#8 for 1 week then dropped massively the next :umm2:

The only Grime Music that will ever get recognised by The Grammys are the more Popped up songs, hence why out of the Indie/Folk genre James Bay and Ed Sheeran have been so successful because they're essentially Pop Music with a fusion of Indie/Folk.

He had a hit album

Wow! they sound great on paper.:amazed:

which opinion are you going with? that nominees for the brits are nominated on success or talent, because your views are kinda conflicting

You need both and clearly his fans think he is talented

Actually the week afterwards he stayed at #9 and is still in the top 40 to this day (two months later) but sure, make completely unsubstantiated claims to further your completely unsubstantiated argument

I doubt that the public judge on talent when you've got Zayn Malik, Justin Bieber, and Shawn Mendes dominating the UK Charts.

completely irrelevant lmao yeah I think we're done here

I don't listen to radio 1, I do scan the top 40 on Spotify though and as I mentioned I can only recall Stormyz and didn't it not even scrape the top 10?

I'm not trying to be difficult here but why should artists be excluded from nominee short lists in favour of less successful acts just to add diversity?

Go to any high street in the UK, pick up a rock and throw it and you'll hit a busker that is as good or better than him. He's just a busker with a record contract and he isn't worthy of any accolades when he's basically an Aldi brand version of Ed Sheeran and we don't need him, never mind his bargain bin clones.

Say what you will about Lily but her music is certainly more memorable and interesting. James Bay is just a one hit wonder who's only gotten as far as he has because the public seem to be obsessed with boring af white guys with guitars and no sense of individuality and a uniform approach to music.

Urghhh do we really have to argue? is it too much to ask we just have a conversation with no petty sarcasm?

He is something that's very rare in British music and that's song writers.

Most of the trash who make the charts these days wouldn't even know how to write a letter let alone a song

If it means not acknowledging the likes of 'Skepta' and 'Stormzy' as musical excellence then I am quite happy to go along with them if they're being called racist tbh.

But yes her drags are excellent and deserved. What is he.

I'm glad Flashlight has a nomination though!

Were the following posts not your first two posts in this thread? The first one was to get a reaction out of me and then your second post was meant to get a reaction out of Jake. I wouldn't really accuse anyone of something you're guilty of doing yourself.

quote me where I said he doesn't deserve to be nominated.

But Lily Allen is just a White Girl With A Guitar?

I agree with you on James Bay being dull, but tbf so is Lily Allen imo who often also talk sings as I like to call it.

And out of interest are you against any white male playing the Guitar? I'm only interested because I know that some people have a weird issue with it even if the act is decent.

it's annoying as well because it's actually a topic that I really enjoy discussing but it's impossible with the constant "the boy who cried wolf" routine

Adam, if you knew a little about the Brits, you'd know that Lily wouldn't have been eligible in the first place since she hasn't had a top 40 album in the past year (and I don't see why she would have, considering she hasn't released one)

...she doesn't play the guitar in her songs

Why haven't BTS been nominated for best international group that's what I want to know :fist:

Why should lily be nominated she didn't release any new music in 2015