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Tom4784 10-06-2016 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8705995)
Please don't make me post the definition of bigot again.

He has said nothing bigoted. The bigots are the people who don't want him to express his opinion.

You can't be racist toward your own race. Simple as that. He is just a bit of a WUM on twitter.

You need to read those tweets again.

Ah, the ol' 'I'm not a bigot! YOU'RE THE BIGOT FOR NOT AGREEING WITH ME' line. You're the one that needs to read the definition of bigot because disagreeing with someone doens't make you a bigot and no one has said anything about wanting to suppress his right to his opinion.

That's the annoying thing about bigots, they get really upset when people disagree with their views, they act like they are under attack, that they're the only people with a right to an opinion, that their word is law. Everyone has a right to an opinion. Andrew can say whatever bull**** comes to mind and anyone can call his view bigoted because that's THEIR opinion and their entitled to it as much as he is. It's a two way street, not just a get out of jail free card to justify a person's terrible opinions.

He's shown time and time again that he is both a bigoted and awful human being. Accept it or not, it doesn't change what he is.

Tom4784 10-06-2016 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8706106)
So you did no research on andrew before deciding he was a racist.

The racist and homophobic tweets are usually enough to tip most people off that he's a bigot.

ThriceShy 10-06-2016 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8706119)
The racist and homophobic tweets are usually enough to tip most people off that he's a bigot.

You really seem confused about the word bigot. A bigot is not someone who discriminates. It is someone who thinks that their opinion is the only one that matters. That tag applies more to andrew's detractors than it does to andrew.

It just looks ignorant to keep using the wrong word.

Ashley. 10-06-2016 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8706130)
You really seem confused about the word bigot. A bigot is not someone who discriminates. It is someone who thinks that their opinion is the only one that matters.

You're completely correct. And what better person to fit the definition than the man himself.

ThriceShy 10-06-2016 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashley. (Post 8706155)
You're completely correct. And what better person to fit the definition than the man himself.

Nowhere has the future BB winner andrew said that other people's opinions don't matter. It is his detractors who have clearly stated on here that he should be ejected for his opinion. So it is they who are the bigots, not Andrew.

hot2go 10-06-2016 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8706106)
So you did no research on andrew before deciding he was a racist.

I don't think the person who asked you about Andrews dad being a chess player has called Andrew a def racist ...

Tom4784 10-06-2016 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8706130)
You really seem confused about the word bigot. A bigot is not someone who discriminates. It is someone who thinks that their opinion is the only one that matters. That tag applies more to andrew's detractors than it does to andrew.

It just looks ignorant to keep using the wrong word.

You aren't someone that should be calling other people ignorant given how deep your head is buried in the sand over Andrew's comments.

Ashley. 10-06-2016 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8706162)
Nowhere has the future BB winner andrew said that other people's opinions don't matter. It is his detractors who have clearly stated on here that he should be ejected for his opinion. So it is they who are the bigots, not Andrew.

Well, if we look over the evidence we've been given, he clearly doesn't think much of the opinions and views of different races, different sexualities and different genders. You say a bigot is someone who is intolerant of those holding different opinions, so you're merely just confirming the fact that Andrew is one. You ought to work on your defence, really.

ThriceShy 10-06-2016 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8706172)
You aren't someone that should be calling other people ignorant given how deep your head is buried in the sand over Andrew's comments.

I simply haven't taken his comments in isolation. The briefest bit of investigoogling reveals him to be black. Believing a black man can be racist against blacks is as dense as it gets, in my opinion.

At worst, he is just a twitter troll in the katie hopkins or frankie boyle mode.

The desire to make it something else is simply fans of other housemates trying to scuttle him.

Jack_ 10-06-2016 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8706162)
Nowhere has the future BB winner andrew said that other people's opinions don't matter. It is his detractors who have clearly stated on here that he should be ejected for his opinion. So it is they who are the bigots, not Andrew.

Weren't you the one last year campaigning for Danny to be ejected/evicted because of a few tweets he'd made in the past, even going so far as to create a ****ing website called 'getdannyout.com'? :umm2:

hot2go 10-06-2016 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 8706023)
If he's not a bigot what's that video about where he calls people idiots for expressing their opinion about the Smith's?

Yes you can be racist towards your own race.

It's about a very real truth....about idiots who admire rich people with quilted lifestyles just because they've been conditioned to by the rich people's publicity machine...same principle as the Kardasians and their army of deluded fans

ThriceShy 10-06-2016 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 8706253)
Weren't you the one last year campaigning for Danny to be ejected/evicted because of a few tweets he'd made in the past, even going so far as to create a ****ing website called 'getdannyout.com'? :umm2:

No.:shrug:

Amy Jade 10-06-2016 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 8706253)
Weren't you the one last year campaigning for Danny to be ejected/evicted because of a few tweets he'd made in the past, even going so far as to create a ****ing website called 'getdannyout.com'? :umm2:

:laugh2:

Amy Jade 10-06-2016 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hot2go (Post 8706281)
It's about a very real truth....about idiots who admire rich people with quilted lifestyles just because they've been conditioned to by the rich people's publicity machine...same principle as the Kardasians and their army of deluded fans

It's an opinion.

Ashley. 10-06-2016 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by hot2go (Post 8706281)
It's about a very real truth....about idiots who admire rich people with quilted lifestyles just because they've been conditioned to by the rich people's publicity machine...same principle as the Kardasians and their army of deluded fans

Blimey.

ThriceShy 10-06-2016 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 8706283)
:laugh2:

You might want to check his facts before you get carried away.

I asked that danny be removed because of his violent outbursts in the house. I had nothing to do with any website.

Jack appears to be making stuff up now in a desperate attempty to put the boot into andrew.

Withano 10-06-2016 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8705518)
"Im not a racist, some of my best parents are black"

:joker:

Ashley. 10-06-2016 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8706295)
You might want to check his facts before you get carried away.

I asked that danny be removed because of his violent outbursts in the house. I had nothing to do with any website.

Jack appears to be making stuff up now in a desperate attempty to put the boot into andrew.

Yeah great, but you used Danny's tweets several times to defend yourself. Now you're saying people shouldn't do that. Why's that?

ThriceShy 10-06-2016 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashley. (Post 8706313)
Yeah great, but you used Danny's tweets several times to defend yourself. Now you're saying people shouldn't do that. Why's that?

I seem to remember danny's tweets were threats of violence and wishing death etc on women.

Completely different to this situation.

What jack just said was pure lies and a retraction and apology is expected.

Amy Jade 10-06-2016 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8706295)
You might want to check his facts before you get carried away.

I asked that danny be removed because of his violent outbursts in the house. I had nothing to do with any website.

Jack appears to be making stuff up now in a desperate attempty to put the boot into andrew.

Jack simply asked if it was you he made no accusations

I would suggest you take your own advice and do some research also, never know you could eventually learn the definition of '***' but I'll not hold my breath :hee:

ThriceShy 10-06-2016 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 8706321)
Jack simply asked if it was you he made no accusations

I would suggest you take your own advice and do some research also, never know you could eventually learn the definition of '***' but I'll not hold my breath :hee:

Nobody did what jack suggested. The whole get danny out thing was based on his violence in the house. His threatening tweets against women just confirmed it.

Headie 10-06-2016 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8706162)
Nowhere has the future BB winner andrew said that other people's opinions don't matter.

Wrong. I suggest you watch the first 30 seconds of this video and then have another go at getting the facts right.

Jack_ 10-06-2016 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8706282)
No.:shrug:

I think you'll find you did

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Originally Posted by Beetlejuice (Post 7969451)

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 7970872)
Do I need to draw you a diagram?

The whole point of that getdannyout site is to suggest that he is being protected because he is friends with production/hosts/legendary housemates.

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Originally Posted by Ross. (Post 7970992)
So I suppose this concludes the mystery of who made this site then

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 7971040)
I am happy to take responsibility for the site.

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 7973225)
Have you read the tweets he wrote?

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 7950573)
His tweet to chloe goodman also shows that he hates women and defends sexual assault.

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 7954019)
I am stunned at this latest one.

Saying fat women should keep to their own kind. I think the bloke is a psychopath.

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 7973258)
What if their tweets totally contradict the persona they take on in the big brother house?

What if danny acts like a white knight in the house, protecting the women and saying he won't allow bullying, but tweets that he hopes chloe goodman is bullied in the street and fat women in clubs should stick to their own kind and not try it on with him?


Amy Jade 10-06-2016 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8706329)
Nobody did what jack suggested. The whole get danny out thing was based on his violence in the house. His threatening tweets against women just confirmed it.

But you are being a hypocrite. One thread you say the world has gone PC mad for being offended by Andrew using racial slurs and you say it should have no grounds for what we think of him in the house yet you admit to wanting Danny ejected last year based on his old tweets.

I know you're just doing it to be contraversial but you're doing a bad job of it.

Jack_ 10-06-2016 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8706295)
You might want to check his facts before you get carried away.

I asked that danny be removed because of his violent outbursts in the house. I had nothing to do with any website.

Jack appears to be making stuff up now in a desperate attempty to put the boot into andrew.

Eh? You might want to check your facts and read threads properly because in case you've missed it, not only have I said his tweets shouldn't mean he's ejected, I have also said he looks like a promising housemate.

What I am doing is highlighting your complete hypocrisy in saying there's nothing wrong with Andrew's tweets and we shouldn't be holding them against him, whilst just last year you were doing exactly the same thing and even created a ****ing website which had a page with a load of said tweets on :laugh2:

Now I wonder why you don't mind Andrew's tweets :think:

ThriceShy 10-06-2016 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 8706357)
Eh? You might want to check your facts and read threads properly because in case you've missed it, not only have I said his tweets shouldn't mean he's ejected, I have also said he looks like a promising housemate.

What I am doing is highlighting your complete hypocrisy in saying there's nothing wrong with Andrew's tweets and we shouldn't be holding them against him, whilst just last year you were doing exactly the same thing and even created a ****ing website which had a page with a load of said tweets on :laugh2:

Now I wonder why you don't mind Andrew's tweets :think:

I created no website.

You accused me of it last year and I said yes it was me so you could dig the hole deeper. :laugh:

The danny situation bears no resemblance to this. He had violent episodes in the house and wanted people to be attacked in the street.

It is so desperate it is laughable.

Headie 10-06-2016 05:25 PM

Omg you posted this in that Danny thread I'm screaming :joker:

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 7973279)
Where are these rules stated that we must only judge them on what we see in the house?

Does it apply to the celebrity series, where we may have known the contestant for 30 years before they went in? Are we meant to disregard that 30 years?

Why shouldn't we consider all information before voting to give someone £100,000?

If twitter had existed during BB4, and we found tweets where cameron said he loved satan and visited prossies, would that have been irrelevant?


ThriceShy 10-06-2016 05:26 PM

Don't you just love it when forum members get so obsessed with you, instead of the housemates, that they go searching through your old posts.:laugh:

Headie 10-06-2016 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8706371)
Don't you just love it when forum members get so obsessed with you, instead of the housemates, that they go searching through your old posts.:laugh:

Yeah it's great :joker:

Headie 10-06-2016 05:28 PM

Me @ ThriceShy

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 7973323)
That is up to you.

But why can't I, and others, choose to include other information when we decide who to vote for.

Who made you the boss?


Jack_ 10-06-2016 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8706364)
I created no website.

You accused me of it last year and I said yes it was me so you could dig the hole deeper. :laugh:

The danny situation bears no resemblance to this. He had violent episodes in the house and wanted people to be attacked in the street.

It is so desperate it is laughable.

Actually, if you check the quotes back you'll see it was Ross you responded to saying you take responsibility for the website, not me.

Danny's tweets about people being 'attacked in the street' could've been interpreted as jokes just as much as you're saying Andrew's could be. There isn't a difference whatsoever, just that you agree with Andrew's comments and his 'right to free speech' and so are rather hypocritically defending him in a way you didn't with Danny. At least be consistent like I am

Marsh. 10-06-2016 05:33 PM

Does Andrew holiday in Dubai too? :fist:

Jack_ 10-06-2016 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8706371)
Don't you just love it when forum members get so obsessed with you, instead of the housemates, that they go searching through your old posts.:laugh:

I had an inclining you were contradicting yourself based on things you'd said in the past, asked you if that were the case, didn't believe your answer so went to check for myself. Nothing to do with obsession luv, just wanting to expose hypocrisy :laugh:

Ross. 10-06-2016 05:37 PM

Me at this expose

http://66.media.tumblr.com/6e927a5b6...h0eio4_250.gif

Shaun 10-06-2016 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Hayden (Post 8706368)
Omg you posted this in that Danny thread I'm screaming :joker:

https://66.media.tumblr.com/4ec0d839...gh4go1_540.png

Headie 10-06-2016 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross. (Post 8706402)

https://66.media.tumblr.com/28a924d5...roxto7_400.gif

Headie 10-06-2016 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 8706414)

:joker:

Headie 10-06-2016 05:44 PM

@ThriceShy
http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/201...9551931-12.gif

MB. 10-06-2016 05:45 PM

Jack 4 mod

hot2go 10-06-2016 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8706371)
Don't you just love it when forum members get so obsessed with you, instead of the housemates, that they go searching through your old posts.:laugh:

Could be worse, you could be the sort of wanker that they approve of


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