When I watched it is irrelevant I found it boring

Me when you gush over such vibrant characters as Elizabeth and Dean

When you watch a show like Big Brother is incredibly relevant.

Watching it years later, not live and with the feeds as it unfolds is not the same at all. :hee:

30 minute episodes on youtube is not a Big Brother. :smug:

Nope. Many of us watched BB2 when it happened. It was the first series to have a 24/7 feed on a Channel (E4) and viewers came to genuinely care about housemates like Brian, Helen, Paul, Dean and Bubble, who they got to watch every day whenever they felt like it. It had a very clear format which everyone understood, real drama, rather than contrived and though it wasn't as good as series 3 or 5, it was highly enjoyable and had arguably the best final 2 of any series.

Brian, Helen, Bubble, Amma, Penny and Stuart say suck on me dick. :smug:

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Penny is the only good housemate in that list m8

That's a yes then

Stop lying you'll end up with a nose like LT.

This is the problem. Some of you are comparing the experience of watching a series unfold as it does with watching back an old series on youtube. Watching a series back will never be as much fun as watching a series as it happens regardless of how good that series seemed at the time. The whole magic of BB is being able to discuss it as it happens with friends and with others on forums.

That's the most extraordinary thing about the lack of live coverage to me. In the age of 24/7 social media sites like twitter, the live feed actually lended itself perfectly to that. Imagine what Fight Night from BB5 would have been like with twitter there. The Digital Spy forums crashed that night.

You don't seem to be capable of communicating.

Happy birthday

MB stop with the sarcasm!!

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Sorry but Hughie, Georgina and Natalie > BB1

It could survive quite fine, probably much better, with big characters, normal nominations/evictions, inventive tasks, 24/7 coverage and a good website. All of which it used to have. The fact that some of these things don't exist in 2016 which they did back in 2006, represents a clear decline.

Utter nonsense. There was manipulation on the very first night when Showbiz was evicted, Nick was told he had to nominate face to face every week and Jack was given 3 free passes.

Furthermore is was a terrible lineup full of limp wristed men, at least 2 of whom were virgins, and older girls who acted like their big sisters.

Basics are what I listed... Fewer housemates with strong individual personalities (Not saying every early series had this but some did), normal nominations/evictions, less meddling, less elaborate twists which never work, a good website with a 24/7 feed that keeps us updated throughout the day which people can talk about on social media sites that never even existed in the early days of BB.

You don't nderstand what it is people are asking for the show to return to.

Ive watched every moment of BB and CBB and even Bots, (before it was taken over by gay central Rylan) and I am a mad fan of the show. Sadly this series has little or no resemblance to BB, its a scaled down CBB with deviants and weirdo that cant provide entertainment without showing body parts or using copious amounts of profanity.

Ho ho homophobia!

He's talking crap....BB is still good ...and if we hadn't had the others we wouldn't now have Huey, Natalie, Ryan and Charlie....they're the bonus balls

Saying men are limp wristed has nothing to do with their sexuality. It is to do with their personalities. The men that year were mostly wimps. Wimps who were overshadowed by the much stronger girls. Who were themselves boring.

It is impossible to debate with a person like you.

this dick that wrote that article cannot see that if BB ran like BB1-6 now people would hate it and it would never get past BB1`

we can look back and love iot but the reality is that life has moved on apace and out viewing habits have massively changed


Its such a lazy article when he could have written something insightful

wanker

Even though the phrase limp wristed is associated with gay men but ok

Nonsense. BB3, BB5 and BB6 and BB7 would do brilliantly today because the housemates were good and the format was easy to understand (apart from one or two twists) and it didn't insult the intelligence of the viewer to anything like the same degree it does today.`

And Big Brother has changed in completely the wrong ways, hence the reason it loses its audience year after year. It could have built on the format it had and instead it destroyed it and turned the show into something fewer and fewer people are watching. With good reason.


You didn't do any better.

Let's just end this entire forum here shall we

BB1-6 wasn't the same though.

BB1-2
BB3
BB4
BB5-7
BB9-11
BB12-13
BB14-17

are the different "styles" of the show IMO.

They could definitely get away with a style of show like BB3, 5-7. They just need a great core cast.

It's associated with men who do not behave in a strong, masculine manner. Which can be a heterosexual man as readily as it can be a homosexual. Nick from last year is a perfect example of it.

As I said, it is impossible to debate with people like this.

How about you end your contributions to this thread here, whilst the rest of us carry on...

I know BB8 wasn't great per se but it doesn't deserve to be wiped from history completely

Actually, on second thoughts, go ahead

I want 24/7 feed. I'm an avid watcher.

But bi matter what you say, BB would not survive with a completely back to basics approach. How would it? The generation had been dumbed down. The ratings will fall further. There are almost no older fans left just young ones who don't remember BB being what it was.

All I'm asking for is minimal twists and 24/7 coverage. That's my basics

Merry Christmas.

If your contributions are calling other people's ideas terrible and being ignorantly low key homophobic then I'll continue as I am, ta :oh:

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What are the bets on Yaki da writing that article

Erm. I'm a gay man and I'm fully aware of what it means.

Pretty much.

Fingers crossed they bring back the classy contestants of the golden era like Kinga and Michelle Bass :fc:

Whether it succeeds or fails is dependent on the housemates and always has been. BB3 had controversial and interesting characters, BB4 did not. BB5 - BB7 followed the BB3 model and that was probably BB's peak (Though BB3 did the highest ratings). It began to go downhill when the producers felt the need to meddle in the second half of BB7 (starting with the House Next Door), and then again with Jade Goody and her family on CBB, and worst of all, BB8 which started with that absurd (though at times amusing) all-female cast. The halfway house nonsense that year was just dire, and the idiot producers seem to have tried to recreate it this year and it's even worse this time.

Almost all of BB's problems have come about because they turned their back on an original format which with good housemates that people were fascinated by was still bringing in a lot of viewers. And imo, still would providing you have the live coverage and a good website to allow people to get to know them and feel involved in it all, which you can't anymore.


I'm not sure young people are the ones watching it. I suspect it's older people who are still the majority of the viewers. The reason more and more people are switching off is because everything has the feel of cheapness and desperation about it and no one knows what the hell is going on anymore. This was most perfectly demonstrated by last nights live twist.

Tbf, they were more than bodies. Kinga had the singing voice of an angel and Michelle Bass could do things with an aubergine you wouldn't believe.

Agree with everything you've said, you're pretty spot on.

This is the main problem with Big Brother now. Tasks are, well, tasks have been the same every week for every series for the past few years, "who said x about y" sums up 90% of C5 tasks, including the shopping ones. Where's the creativity? Overnight tasks and daily tasks that tested abilities became a true staple of the show in its best days. Now it's just about who said Gill has hairy armpits. If you guess right you get unlimited alcohol and a party.

The characters, they need more diversity, you don't need a house of 18 vain people that love the sound of their own voices and like to shout. Have a mix, have some quiet ones, people who work in different areas, people that come from different upbringings, a diverse cast is far more likely to clash and create an interesting show more than a cast of people who just want the same thing. C4 got casting far more right than C5 ever have.

The current website is appalling, and the lack of live feed is shocking for 2016, the internet is bigger than it has ever been and they don't use that for a live feed?

Big Brother as it is now tries far too hard to be complicated and create twists for the sake of it. If they stood back, stripped the show back a little, actually created interesting tasks and shopping tasks, the show could easily stick around for many years to come and thrive.

C5 have dragged the show so far into the ground by now, when the show does eventually get axed no other channel will buy it, and I doubt any channel would buy it after a break of a few years either. Channel 5 have tarnished the brand completely in the UK.

Less is more. We know times are different and a show needs to reflect this, although Big Brother does not have to be as over the top of silly as it is now, it needs to be simpler and more clever.