It's doesn't matter if it truly *is* xenophobic or isolationist, though, if that perception starts to creep out internationally, the truth is irrelevant. These people, though a minority, are shouting the loudest and that will be a major issue... Its all about appearances.

I’m a brexiteer and I certainly don’t think it’s a good thing. The ignorance I’ve heard coming out of some people’s mouths has disappointed me but not surprised me because we have had years of right wing propaganda trying to educate the uneducated. We have been played by the trash tabloids and channel 4 into believing immigrants are the cause of our crumbling Britain. We’ve watched the blue collar pretentious middle class turn against the working class and the working class turn against the destitute and whilst we were all fighting with one another, the Tories were doing their dirty business unhindered.

Of course false promises were made to get people to vote Brexit. I knew they were lies, I voiced my opinion about those lies even though I wanted out of the EU. There are some brexiteers on here who are going to be woefully disappointed because even if they are still clinging on to false hopes now, they will eventually discover they were duped.

This is why we can’t support pathetic creatures like BoJo or Kipper; two men who allowed, even encouraged a believe in a white alternative Britain. Shame on them for supporting this freedom of speech which has created untold grief to the hard working immigrants of this country.

I believe Britain will be better for leaving the EU but I can comfort myself in the FACT that immigration will still be a core benefit to our economy.

Bojo yes is a clown.Don't forget though that without Farage you wouldn't have been able to vote Brexit.I admire his persona and what he managed to do against all odds.However for me it is now time to move on from UKIP.They served their purpose.I agree that immigration is a benefit but it needs to be controlled and planned for rather than being left unchecked.

But they are not taking over the country. That's just a false belief system.
That’s what people like you want to believe. I live in one of the most multi cultural boroughs of London. I have friends and work colleagues from all over the globe but I have never been shown a cold shoulder because I’m British.

Australia is one of the most racist countries in the world! I think most people are aware of that.

It would be very undemocratic to have another referendum.

I fear you're going to be one of those disappointed Monkey; the big Brexit faces have ALREADY admitted that immigration numbers "probably won't" decrease. At all.

'Probably won't' is a better alternative to 'never can be though' and atleast we can now hold our government accountable for immigration rather than an organisation run by people we never elected or asked for and have no influence at all over.
PS i'm not one of those people who voted Brexit solely on immigration.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...attacks-london

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...g-Muslims.html




Have you had muslims trying to force sharia law on you, like these guys?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...attacks-london

No they aren't.


I agree.

This was inevitable that this was going to happen once the leave campaigners won. The main gripe about being in Europe is immigration and the fact that we want control of our own borders and to keep as many of them out!

It's just like the rabies disease and bringing animals into the UK without quarantine. Now just imagine if Europe had control and their decision was that we bring millions of animals back without quarantine and we had to do as they say as we have to bow down to them and their decisions, well basically we would have rabid animals running about everywhere.

People feel strongly about immigration so racism and xenophobia is real and present and those who do live here who are not British will have to get ready for a sign like that and a whole lot more.

Not surprising, the extreme elements (IE not all of the Brexit voters, so calm your tits) of Brexit feel their actions are vindicated by the results. Racism is going to be a bigger problem going forward because the racists feel enabled by the vote to spout their bull****.

Just another glorious side effect of Leave winning. Has anything good come from voting out yet? Racism's on the rise, all of the campaign promises have been dropped in less then a week and the world hates us. Brilliant job UK, really well done.

Are you talking about EU migration? because entrants needing visas are very heavily scrutinized by our immigration system. A friend of mine has been engaged to an African American for four years and for four years she’s been trying to get him over here without success. He’s been allowed to visit Britain but he’s not allowed to stay for anything other than a short holiday and its the same for her going to the U.S.

I dont see the major problem of voicing your opinion and saying you dont want foreigners in Britian as long as it doesnt become a hate crime.

Im happily admit people need to be deported starting with the large number of criminals who are wasting tax payers money living a better life in our prisons, they should deport all foriegn criminals and hand them life long bans from Britain.

Unfortunately, when you fail to listen to the will of the people, racism and defensiveness will surely rise. The politicians of the UK are the ones to blame for not listening to what the majority of the electorate want - eventually the people are going to take control back and it won't always be politically correct nor what the bleeding heart brigade desire. That's what happens when you take the piss out of ordinary people for far too long. Sad but true.

Hey Sherriff :love:

Hello, my fellow virgo:cheer2:

Racists are responsible for their own ****ing racism.

Outside of london and the media, the country is rejoicing at the leave vote.

Immigrants are responsible for their own actions too.

Well immigration in general needs to be checked and planned for.All immigration could be handled better but it's predominantly EU immigration that's currently letting the side down as it is uncontrollable until we fully get out.

Being against uncontrolled immigration is not racism I'm afraid.

Do you even know what racism is?

I'll let you speak for yourself on that one

Telling anyone who isn't white to "go home", however, is

No of course its not!
There’s a difference between individual bias and structural racism.

What about telling polish people to go home?

If you look at the incidents listed in the OP and think that's okay then it's fairly obvious that you can't tell the difference between racism and taking a stance against immigration and that says it all really.

I do but you are apparently confused on the issue.

Of course it is - but I thought the EU referendum was about uncontrolled European immigration (something that this country cannot cope with). Having a problem with hundreds of thousands of young, jobless, working class men flooding the country when we already have a high unemployment rate is not racist, it's common sense. Anyone who is not concerned about this is either ignorant or deluded.

Applying the racist card to any discussion about uncontrolled immigration is just a short-hand way of shutting down the argument because people on the 'in' side have no opposing positive points. It was applied to UKIP for many years but the British public saw through the arguments and thus votes to leave the EU.

Well no, that's the logic of a racist trying to make themselves sound less racist by tarring everyone with the same brush.

Well you're just repeating what I said - so you cancelled out your own argument #girlbye.

Of course that is racist.

I've driven round the Andalusian hills and seen graffiti saying “Brits go home”. That was the Spanish being racist towards the Brits.

That depends on what the deal on offer is, whether there is a vote on it and how my country votes. From now is the time for negotiation about what happens next and in a democracy we go with the will of the people.

However, I see no point in staying in the single market if we have to pay 7% in fees when we can pay 3% in tarrifs outside it for the same trade. I don't really believe in the free movement of people for two reasons.

The first is that people coming from countries outside Europe to the UK do have a points system, for inside Europe to have no system is frankly unfair and discriminatory. Someone coming from Africa should have the same chance as someone coming from Latvia.

The second is that I believe we should have knowledge about who is coming and going. Someone coming to work is most welcome, someone convicted of a murder in another country should not be, so we do need to know and filter who comes.

That is a ridiculous thing to say about yourself but if you want to won the label you go right ahead. Though if you are worried about racism, that is one racist remark Europe often throws at us when we disagree with them.

But the post I was responding too was saying that it is racist to say that to non white people.

What race are poles? If I tell them to go home and I am white, how can that be racism?

I do believe the whole "foreigners taking our jobs" is a bunch of BS when I went for a job interview there were some people from other countries and they never got through to the next round and I did...

I think the fact that you're defending racism because you can't tell the difference between it and arguing against immigration is all that needs to be said. You also defended racists by blaming politicians because apparently people aren't responsible for their own thoughts and actions.

It's quite suspect really.

Xenophobic not racist

No we didn't and we have a lot from the past to be ashamed of. We also have a lot of things to be proud of, one of them I think is that a lot of the countries we have colonised in the past still have excellent relationships with us and hold us in fond regard. To make that transition from former conquest to fond friendship says a lot about us as a people now I hope.

Funny how all brits should be held responsible for invading countries hundreds of years ago, but when a muslim commits a terrorist attack it is suddenly #NotAllMuslims.

It does indeed Jaxie, peace in NI has been wonderful I hope it remains and I can say I was misty eyed when the Queen visited the Republic

OMG did you not see the :hee: smilie..stop trying to make something out of nothing :laugh:

I agree with both of these posts.

On the whole I think we are a incredibly open minded country and the idiots who are xenophobic/racist etc etc and in the minority. And no, I don't think that everyone who voted leave is Xenophobic, so don't try and tell me that the majority are actually in fact xenophobic.

You get xenophobic people everywhere. From what I've seen, a lot of places in Europe aren't too keen on us either...