Well the Tories don't have to listen to it do they? That's democracy.

Telling people that they can't protest is no different to Russia.

Can we start calling the anti-EU proponents what they really are?

Racists, xenophobes and turkeys voting for Christmas.

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Apparently obsessing over Immigration above all else and wanting it closed off entirely is not racist or xenophobic Jack, and apparently we're just scaremongering for saying that they are didn't you know?:hehe:

Literally one of my Mom's Twitter friends has just called anyone wanting to remain "stupid" just because they're protesting about the result.

Imo it's pretty stupid not to at least question the result considering there is no plan for this country going forward other than to vilify Gove to make Boris sympathetic to the nation by the Right Wing Media such as The Sun and The Daily Mail, and the other 8 far Right Wing Newspapers.

Funny how debates with Remainiacs always turn into insults isn't it. Keep shouting racist and xenephobe because that worked out so well for you guys :flowers:

It is pure hypocrisy Jack, nothing else.
You are right, Farage was already gearing up on the results night when ti was thought leave had won by the same margin.

He was starting to blame the extended deadline for people to register to vote as one reason remain had won.
There would have been a never ending lists of things from likely most on the leave side,some there would have 'never' accepted that result and would have been screaming night and day for another referendum.

With the attitude of some on the leave side there is no way anyone in power will be able to again unite this Kingdom.
Every day I find myself more turned off by their endless gloating and put downs to those who voted remain.

What is worse however are the truly horrible minority who helped the 'leave' side win, who 'are' racist and xenophobic, who are now setting out after this result to make immigrants lives really unpleasant now and even feeling threatened in the UK.

Those kind of people are the threats to democracy not peaceful marchers worried about their futures.
Also, who knows that those on this march today did not vote anyway, more guesswork and supposition to fuel prejudices.

Err...in case you hadn't noticed, my post about racists and xenophobes was a sarcastic response to your post which tarred all those who are pro-EU with the same brush:

So again you are contradicting yourself. Personally I think those calling leavers racists are shutting down a problem that's existed for years, but stereotype me and I'll stereotype you too.

I notice you didn't respond to my other post which had no insults, it can't be a debate if you didn't reply. Or did I prove you wrong?

There hasn't been this kind of out-pouring of love for an un-democratic super-state since The Hitler youth.

Protests would have been acceptable on either way, a 52-48 split is not a big enough lead to declare a majority.

Good ol' LT with his Freudian-seque defense of racism.

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Nobody is actually calling ALL leavers racist. It's been said plenty of times that, while a large portion of leave voters probably voted for racist reasons, not all of them did.

It's funny how it's people like you that are tarring yourself with the racist brush and becoming ultra defensive over nothing.

So anyone who voted Remain is also a 'scrounger' in your eyes? Strange leap (and lack) of logic there.

..yeah those are my thoughts as well, Jack...screaming 'racist' will only make those prejudices/intolerances etc more defensive and so more hostile as well and will solve nothing at all ...but just make it less possible for those prejudices to be diminished in any way...these prejudices haven't arisen from any decisions to have a referendum or the result of it..it's just showing it's face more now, rather than trying to conceal itself by some...but the thought process of Brexiters being mostly racist/xenophobic is a similar generalisation to football fans as being as being thought of as 'hooligans', when with both it's only a tiny percentage, I feel... that small percentage though is no consolation or comfort to anyone who has felt racism as a direct link to Brexit/Remain..and sadly many people have, as has been reported...it's now as you say, not shutting that revealed face down by shouting at it but dealing with the issue as 'problems' like this have a way of gathering and growing extroadinarily quickly in 'depression' times and times of uncertainty like we are in now....

lol so true. Ive notied the left dont actually have conversations anymore they just scream and shout and march and abuse, how sad, how undemocratic, how profoundly dumb and ineffective.

Someone's always marching through London dragging their grievance behind them.

Yes its OK so long as its music
and Children looking sad.


But Changes Nothing

I was called a xenophobe on this forum for saying I found Nicola Sturgeon's voice annoying. I promise I didn't tar myself. :shrug:
People are throwing round certain words in relation to disagreements over the referendum and we can't sanitise it and say those who voted leave are too sensitive or remainers wouldn't do that.

Re the march, the people who marched are exercising their democratic right and in democracy that means they are entitled to go up to town, shout a bit and have a picnic because things didn't go their way. While I may think it's a bit whiney and agree with someone on here who said they are marching to remain in an undemocratic club. We are very lucky to live in a country where we are able to do things like that.

That video is incredibly disturbing.

Jack just said all outers are racist and xenophobic, which will inclede people on the forum, myself included...why no ban? Why is the post still showing?

As I've already said, that was a sarcastic riposte to Tom's insinuation that all the pro-EU protesters are 'Goldman Sachs lobbyists'. Should he be banned too?

Are you immune to sarcasm or did you just not read the thread properly? That's a common problem on TiBB

On more than one level, I'm afraid. The threats of an irrational bully who is vexed because a democratic 'Referendum' decision has not gone her way, even though she is pig ignorant of the facts of the issue which was the crux of that Referendum.

Couldn't happen on Tibb though.... Err, hang on a mo.

She didn't do herself any favours, she should have just walked on

So she turns up to an organised protest of people speaking out about the fears they have since Britain voted to leave the EU with a 'leave' poster and expects to receive a warm welcome?

Do I agree with the woman saying she needed to leave and take her poster down? No, that would be undemocratic. But do I agree that the woman shouldn't be allowed to criticise her for turning up to a protest she's not in support of? No, because that would also be undemocratic. So you end up with a pointless stalemate that goes nowhere.

Those who were protesting yesterday have every right to and people calling them 'undemocratic' have no sense of irony whatsoever, but as much as the other woman is allowed to turn up and proclaim her dislike of the cause, she has to expect criticism since she's a small minority who has appeared at an organised protest for a cause she doesn't believe in...it's pretty stupid, no? She knew what she was getting into, so there's nothing to see here.

Just stinks when i get banned for sarcastically referring to someones sexuality after they called me a troll..anyway, i didnt report you cause i aint like that..just find it very clique amd unfair when certain people get away with stuff that others don't.

So i suppose the physical assault by a man at the very beginning of the clip by ripping her placard from her hand was ok as well:joker:

Disturbing but hardly surprising. They are an intolerant mob.

I agree. The funniest signs I saw at the demonstration were "We are the 48%". In their minds that makes them entitled to get their way.

The EU will not last the end of this decade. Remember this prediction.

..I'm not condoning how the Remain lady behaved in the protest../very grim...but watching it made me think that, that's probably how the ethnic minorities are made to feel and have been made to feel so many times...'you don't belong here/go away' type thing..:sad:...ironic though, that she mentioned that herself and accused of voting along with racism, while doing something similar herself really...it's also worrying that neither lady when questioned seemed to really know what their vote had been for../their reasoning behind it etc...this has been the huge thing, really...