Natalie Rowe is BBUK's very own Danielle Reyes, lets not pretend otherwise

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She means the US format right?

We've already got the Canadians scripted elements and their Showmances.

No thx

As long as this show is on Channel 5 and produced by the people it is, it is beyond recovery.

The first two evictions saw Marco and Natalie lose to Emma and Charlie who was duller in the vote, and have still contributed less to the series despite both lasting significantly longer.

How is that good voting?:conf:

Marco contributed nothing though?

Tbf Cody got 2nd place in BB16 in the American one because all of the girls fancied him in the house, and Derrick saw him as a Bro.:joker:

Same here. I often moan about the viewers voting out entertaining housemates to soon. However a BB without public participation would be one big bore. I would not watch such a BB format.

Is there any reason a brand new show couldn't take the BBCan format, but not be called Big Brother?

He contributed discussion on the Forums for his delusions, his revolting behaviour, and his obsession with BDSM.

Emma and Charlie have given me nothing to want to discuss about them other than what are they still doing there when the public could've just simply voted them off?

Don't get me wrong Marco nor Natalie should've won, but they shouldn't have been the first two that the public voted off.

She would've cunningly got Hughie up and out!

Being lightly slapped by a belt in order to try and seem even slightly mature sexually does not make him obsessed with BDSM.

I doubt he could even spell it. :smug:

I for one like Emma and Charlie a lot more than I liked Marco and Natalie :shrug:

They can keep it.

It's the closest to BDSM that Big Brother is ever going to reach is what I mean and it created topics on the Forum which as a fan I enjoy, wtf in particular has Emma given us?:laugh:

bUT DID THEY SHOUT?????!!!!!!!

Everyone knows the higher the volume, tHE BETTER THE HOUSEMATE!!!!!

It gave you topics about what his girlfriend posted on twitter, whether nipple sucking made other housemates uncomfortable and whether or not Marco was having some kind of breakdown or was born mentally retarded.

All contributing to one of the worst series of BB ever aired.

You're talking about likability though, that's irrelevant when watching a TV Show.

It's like watching Game Of Thrones and wanting the Lannister's off the screen before the story calls for it just because they're not "nice" but they're sure as hell more entertaining than a lot of the other characters on the show and it would be duller if they went before the show ended.

Erm, this show's a popularity contest Mock

I'm pretty certain by "like" Macie was referring to which ones he enjoyed watching. I.e. which ones entertain him. :laugh:

Also, the people in Big Brother are real people. Comparing it to enjoying evil characters in a show about dragons isn't really relevant. :hee:

Doesn't matter what the topics are, at least some was being created so that I could discuss it with other fans of the show.

Housemates like Emma I cannot stand as there's nothing to discuss about her other than she's "nice" which on BB translates as doesn't speak or argue.

If we had more Housemates like Emma and Charlie instead of the Marco's and Natalie's then there wouldn't be a TIBB, and there certainly wouldn't be anything to discuss.

As I've said as long as Marco and Natalie didn't win the show but last a certain distance then they don't offend me.

It's entirely relevant because I'd much rather watch Emma and and Charlie than Marco and Natalie.

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Ok. We will end the discussion there.

It's first and foremost an entertainment show like all TV Shows are, then a Gameshow, then a popularity contest.

Real people or not you're still watching the show and nasty people make better TV than nice people that don't want to make waves or tell jokes in case it offends people.

So you agree with me then as I notice that you didn't quote my very valid points that you know is true.:laugh:

Charlie is someone who is nice, offering nothing to discuss, making no waves or jokes in case it offends people? Ok. :)

Well Charlie isn't seen as nasty is she? The way the show edits her is someone that's conflicted about her feelings for Jason, not some spiteful bitch that's wanting to take them all down.

And I've honestly never heard Charlie tell a joke have you? If so I must've missed it.:joker:

She's like a poor man's Lea from BB7.

No. Nothing you said was valid.

Charlie was in your list of housemates who would offer nothing to discuss? Blatantly not true, she's one of the higher profile housemates in terms of discussion this series.

And it doesn't matter what topics are made as long as they are? Again, load of rubbish. We could have the forum filled with discussion on similar pancake related drama and it wouldn't in anyway, shape or form be a good thing.

Yeah, acting like a bunny boiling, bi-polar bitch who kicks dogs is so wallpaper. We could replace her with a plant and there'd be no difference.

That's not entirely true 100% of the time though. Every series is different it's not as easy as making blanket statements like "well he's nasty so he's entertaining" and "she's in a showmance so she's not a good housemate."

Now I know that you're joking around.:joker:

You honestly think that having a show full of Emma's that give out nothing is better than having threads at all? Even if it's about Pancakes or whatever other mundane thing that you can think of? Pancake arguments remind me of the Ch4 days actually so I kind of like it.

And Charlie's high profile is the same as Jason's, a Showmance, yes admittedly it does give out more discussion on the Forums which gives her more of a pass than Emma because she's also behaving like a Bunny Boiler in the whole affair, but that's one thing.

Exactly. Can anyone say they actually enjoyed much of Helen/Pauline in BB15 at their worst? Or Jade and her clan in CBB5?

Can't say I did.

No. YOU claimed any topic is better than no topic, not me. That's what we were discussing.

Apart from being a twat obsessed with poorly re-enacting scenes from pornhub, what did Marco offer?

Don't remind me of that as that makes me really hate the bitch.:fist:

But yeah being scripted a blatant Showmance does give her slightly less credit than someone that had that, and behaved like a deluded twat, argued on Georgina and saw right through her, did have discussions on how hyper he was, and how aggressive he could be towards other people in arguments, and how annoying that he could be.

Charlie it's just her thing with Jason in the house, and that she likes kicking Dogs, oooh what a character.

It's extremely rare that a nasty Housemate on BB is one of the duller contestants of their year.

In fact the only time that I can think of it was Conor in BB13.

Marco had NOTHING other than the drama with Laura/his fiancee on the outside. He had no personality to speak of.

Also, Charlie being a hateful bitch = great housemate according to your criteria. :smug:

Charlie being a hateful bitch doesn't make her the dullest of the series which I still standby that.

Emma and Alex are taking that title as they offer zero to the show, and ironically will probably be the final two despite being so dull.

But yeah I think even most Marco detractors wouldn't say that he had no personality whatsoever, otherwise there wouldn't have been people disliking him so badly like he was the male Helen Wood otherwise.

Okay but that's a very quantity over quality approach. Like, Helen Wood definitely contributed to BB15 and she wasn't dull, but all she contributed to for me was my discomfort and dislike for the series. Same with people like Marc and Aaron.

I just think that if you're trying to use an objective approach to determine who The Best Housemates are, you're making an assumption that all contributions and entertainment are equal and it just matters that you're doing something rather than considering what you're actually doing. If that's the case, you can just count sentences in each episode and whoever speaks the most is The Best Housemate.