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jaxie 31-07-2016 09:01 PM

Marnie did go too far but I think Saira has made her bed so to speak with the younger people I'm the house and now she is laying in it.

karezza 31-07-2016 09:02 PM

I feel sorry for her husband. Imagine being married to that creature.

Pete. 31-07-2016 09:03 PM

I guess Marnie answered my question for me :clap1:

Cherie 31-07-2016 09:03 PM

Marnie played right into her hands at the end silly cow, she wants the victim card, she had no reason not to accept a hug off Heavy but she literally blanked him

Denver 31-07-2016 09:03 PM

im not a fan but she was treated horribly

caprimint 31-07-2016 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by EspeonBB (Post 8872740)
Saira is kind of a mess but I feel like Bear and Heavy D were overly aggressive (plus it was 2 vs. 1 so it did feel like ganging up)

She's on the Loose Women panel. Can she not handle a different opinion to her 'rightful' own? :facepalm:

Nobody was aggressive towards her.

waylander1973 31-07-2016 09:07 PM

Marnie did bully her, as what she did right at the end the show especially as she made up with her earlier before hand - so wrong.

Hmmm...as for the rest off it, if it carries on the way we saw tonight then it will become bullying, otherwise just an augment between housemates.

thisisdanny 31-07-2016 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 8872774)
No..she seems to be a master of playing the victim though :laugh:

:clap1::clap1:

fitz2k2 31-07-2016 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete. (Post 8872671)
Me thinks she's being bullied and that scum Bear is the ringleader

you don't even know the meaning of the word bully

delta 31-07-2016 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 8872935)
im not a fan but she was treated horribly

Rubbish


It was self created. she makes a rod for her own back. She lacks the etiquette and intricacies for human interaction and the nuances of small talk.


she comes across as a very angry woman.

lewis111 31-07-2016 09:18 PM

Setting herself up?
So it's her fault for talking in her usual tone of voice to people who aren't nice?
She's spoekn to everyone that way and only they seem to have an issue with it

You can deny he's being bullied I feel she's only being picked on. But I don't see how it is her fault that she's being treated that way

joeysteele 31-07-2016 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 8872774)
No..she seems to be a master of playing the victim though :laugh:

She is indeed.

I would fine her near unbearable to be in such a place with.

Heaven = Winner 31-07-2016 09:29 PM

I think she's starting to be, for sure. At least from Bear and (likely) Marnie.

hot2go 31-07-2016 11:18 PM

She's attached racism to James ....she's called Marnie a drunk...she's called bear a violent agressive man who would physically attack people and she's commeneted that Heavy D is too fat to exercise....she's the one ganging up on people...they have reacted badly and they are in the wrong but she has created that situation ...doesn't excuse their reaction but it def explains it.

Yaki da 31-07-2016 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by hot2go (Post 8873539)
She's attached racism to James ....she's called Marnie a drunk...she's called bear a violent agressive man who would physically attack people and she's commeneted that Heavy D is too fat to exercise....she's the one ganging up on people...they have reacted badly and they are in the wrong but she has created that situation ...doesn't excuse their reaction but it def explains it.

And she spends half the time sneering at anyone with a different opinion to her.

Insulting, patronising, condescending, belittling and sneering.

And when people who all agree with each other that she is these things point it out to her, she cries and they're the bullies in the minds of viewers who I believe just want to be seen to be "standing up for a victim".

It's unbelievable.

hot2go 31-07-2016 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8873545)
And she spends half the time sneering at anyone with a different opinion to her.

Insulting, patronising, condescending, belittling and sneering.

And when people who all agree with each other that she is these things point it out to her, she cries and they're the bullies in the minds of viewers who I believe just want to be seen to be "standing up for a victim".

It's unbelievable.

It is unbelievable....she thinks she a cut above....she's a total snob and is prob used to getting her own way....way too confident

TheMachine 31-07-2016 11:30 PM

She is up her own arse. Full of herself very patronizing interview mode all the time, soon as people started to challenge her on the BS she turns on the water works.

Bullying are people watching the same stuff i am?. Bear was mainly standing his ground on the stupid **** she was applying to him from hardly any substance. She really doesn't seem like a nice person, very manipulative.

The part on marmie showing her tits for dare was poorly timed after all the other drama. distasteful. She will now play the victim, ill get out my violin.

Jake. 31-07-2016 11:40 PM

100%. The whole "I've got bigger boobs than you"/tit flashing wasn't even funny when she was already upset. The younger people in there are repulsive.

Drew. 01-08-2016 12:08 AM

Unfortunately. I don't particularly like her or the intimidating way she talks to people but for a bunch of immature cretins who have no brain cells between them then this is the perfect reason for them to gang up on her. Had there not been anyone else in the house to speak up for Saira then this would easily become a bullying situation if they were able to continue which they probably would have.

LukeB 01-08-2016 12:18 AM

I don't think Marnie flashing her tits to her was done in a horrible/nasty way, it was stupid and wrong and pretty immature but She will probably feel remorse about it well hopefully anyway. I hope she gets a warning though and learn from her mistake.

But for Bear he has randomly took a dislike to her and I felt he has been targeting her since day 1, maybe it;s jealously because of the immunity thing he said it was a smart move for her but he seemed to have an issue with it. He has been the worse towards her and he will show no remorse.

jaxie 01-08-2016 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by waylander1973 (Post 8872963)
Marnie did bully her, as what she did right at the end the show especially as she made up with her earlier before hand - so wrong.

Hmmm...as for the rest off it, if it carries on the way we saw tonight then it will become bullying, otherwise just an augment between housemates.

Flashing her tits like that was not bullying. Ffs it was a tit she was waving not a club. What it was was immature, rude and unnecessary but it wasnt bullying.

jaxie 01-08-2016 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 8873676)
I don't think Marnie flashing her tits to her was done in a horrible/nasty way, it was stupid and wrong and pretty immature but She will probably feel remorse about it well hopefully anyway. I hope she gets a warning though and learn from her mistake.

But for Bear he has randomly took a dislike to her and I felt he has been targeting her since day 1, maybe it;s jealously because of the immunity thing he said it was a smart move for her but he seemed to have an issue with it. He has been the worse towards her and he will show no remorse.

He hasn't been targeting her. When he was asking for help over the wardrobe space she was plain rude to him. Then in the bathroom she was asking him inappropriate questions then in the kitchen she claims he might be a risk to her safety. The woman is barking mad.

Cal. 01-08-2016 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Hayden (Post 8872695)

This :(

jet 01-08-2016 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 8873694)
Flashing her tits like that was not bullying. Ffs it was a tit she was waving not a club. What it was was immature, rude and unnecessary but it wasnt bullying.

I have to disagree. I don't like Saira, but deliberately trying to humiliate someone in front of a group of people who is sitting there minding their own business IS bullying. The false apology, and Saira saying it's fine...then doing what Marnie did is vile and despicable. She should be turfed out on her slutty ass. I'm so glad James had zero tolerance...Grant Bovey sickened me trying to make excuses for Marnie when he and James were talking about it later. He is such a sleazeball. yuck.

Northern Monkey 01-08-2016 12:58 AM

She has singled everyone one out and been a bitch to them and did'nt like being called out on it,Did'nt apologise and could'nt admit she was wrong.Then played the victim when she'd been sussed.

Northern Monkey 01-08-2016 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 8873746)
I have to disagree. I don't like Saira, but deliberately trying to humiliate someone in front of a group of people who is sitting there minding their own business IS bullying. The false apology, and Saira saying it's fine...then doing what Marnie did is vile and despicable. She should be turfed out on her slutty ass. I'm so glad James had zero tolerance...Grant Bovey sickened me trying to make excuses for Marnie when he and James were talking about it later. He is such a sleazeball. yuck.

Marnie had no reason to apologise but did anyway and bitchface started on her again.No wonder Marnie was pissed off with her.

azi 01-08-2016 04:57 AM

They're intimidated by an intelligent WOC.

http://i.imgur.com/rJTEJu5.gif

chuff me dizzy 01-08-2016 08:31 AM

Is she hell ,she brought all the dislikes the hm8s have for her on herself, even yesterday when she did her "poor me"audition from her bed,she managed to stick a knife in Marnies back .... Reap and sow Saira ,Reap and sow

Nicky91 01-08-2016 08:32 AM

i feel sorry for her, because she's being bullied by vile Marnie :(

Vanessa 01-08-2016 09:26 AM

Saira needs to stop the interrogation. Can't she just. Have a convo without accusing people? No wonder they're fed up. Bear did go too far last night and Marnie can't handle her drink. But great that Heavy D and Lewis have already talked to Saira and cleared the air, very mature.

jet 01-08-2016 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 8873756)
She has singled everyone one out and been a bitch to them and did'nt like being called out on it,Did'nt apologise and could'nt admit she was wrong.Then played the victim when she'd been sussed.

True, she is a nightmare, but at that stage Marnie was the better person for apologising. She's not a better person now, is she? Saira now has the upper hand and Marnie has shown herself to be a stupid, vengeful, immature little girl.

jet 01-08-2016 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 8873975)
Is she hell ,she brought all the dislikes the hm8s have for her on herself, even yesterday when she did her "poor me"audition from her bed,she managed to stick a knife in Marnies back .... Reap and sow Saira ,Reap and sow

You're not condoning what Marnie did, are you? :shocked:

chuff me dizzy 01-08-2016 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 8874093)
You're not condoning what Marnie did, are you? :shocked:

Im not condoning Saira cornering people and using them to big herself up .no I'm not

jet 01-08-2016 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 8874095)
Im not condoning Saira cornering people and using them to big herself up .no I'm not

Neither am I, she's a nightmare, but you know that's not what I asked. :hee:

chuff me dizzy 01-08-2016 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 8874102)
Neither am I, she's a nightmare, but you know that's not what I asked. :hee:

My answer to any questions about Saira is .....she brought it ALL on herself

Tom4784 01-08-2016 11:17 AM

Hard to deny it after that scene in the garden. Marnie and unBearable are completely awful and they should be warned for their behavior. Saira is messy but that was just uncalled for, good on Sam for trying to tell them that. :clap1:

jet 01-08-2016 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 8874106)
My answer to any questions about Saira is .....she brought it ALL on herself

Cabbages :laugh:

hot2go 01-08-2016 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 8873976)
i feel sorry for her, because she's being bullied by vile Marnie :(

At last....someone who blames Marnie.....everyone else says Marnie was either immature or stupid but not a bully...which is ok if they see it that way but in the same posts then are happy to call the boys bully's.....
People are making allowances for Marnie because she's a girl when in fact the boys didn't Bully Saira at all....they don't like her, they don't respect her and neither do I but they didn't flash themselves at her..Marnie did

Robodog 01-08-2016 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by hot2go (Post 8873539)
She's attached racism to James ....she's called Marnie a drunk...she's called bear a violent agressive man who would physically attack people and she's commeneted that Heavy D is too fat to exercise....she's the one ganging up on people...they have reacted badly and they are in the wrong but she has created that situation ...doesn't excuse their reaction but it def explains it.

:clap1:

Best post on this thread.

It explains all the examples of how Saira has been on the offensive since the start (there was also her barbed comment towards Chloe)

She has been constantly trying to provoke other HMs since she entered the house. Then as soon as they respond to her she plays the victim card and says 'How dare you say i was offensive! I was only being honest and trying to get to know you all! i'm so innocent and now you are all ganging up on me!' It's an old, clever, passive-aggressive trick.

As if commenting on Heavy D's size re: exercise is in any way friendly!

Then she acts all upset when people confront her, so then people are forced to try to clear the air with her. So then she rudely dismisses their apology and she even carries on offending them personally (as she did with Marnie over her drinking). This proves she not only creates the issues, she also wants to milk the upset she has created for as much as she can get out of it.

Terrible manipulative behaviour from Saira.

James dealt with it brilliantly by not rising to her stupid racism accusations, he stayed calm, stayed interested in her personally and even befriended her. He confronted her prejudice towards him with kindness.

Marnie/Bear both managed to stay reasoned with her throughout their discussions but sadly they let themselves down totally with the boob flash thing.

All that will do is play into Saira's hands. She's wanted to be the victim from day one and now they have handed it to her on a gold plate. They should have kept shtum and let her dig her own grave. Instead they gave her fuel for the fire. She will now milk this for the next few weeks, if not months outside the house.

Verdict: Saira is in the wrong. And now with the boob flash thing, so are Marnie and Bear.

Shame because Marnie and Bear were holding their own against her all day and they were in the right, up until the point of boob-gate.

.

chuff me dizzy 01-08-2016 12:23 PM

Is Saira being picked on here too ? Look at the faces she pulls at this man who is trying to help her ,then tries to make herself the victim, it seems this is how she plays it

LANGUAGE IN VIDEO SO IF EASILY OFFENDED,DONT WATCH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8Anednbpi4


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