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power2thepeople 11-08-2016 03:12 PM

He's a victim of his huge ego not being stroked by indifference and that's the biggest part of his person that matters to him the most. They won't keep it up though. Too many reactionary characters in there who will pass the point of dignity when he notches things up (and he will).

caprimint 11-08-2016 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Garfie (Post 8904791)
And for those who repeatedly criticise Ricky for doing nothing or for being 'too spineless' to respond to Bear, yet when he did put Bear in his place, then criticised him as being out of order for doing so! :shrug: The irony and hypocrisy of it all is bewildering, and that is why it is sometimes very difficult to take such arguments seriously and ridiculous to even pay lip service to such comments.

I don't think by calling Bear 'ugly' and raising his voice, it was a very good example of 'putting someone in their place'.

vixenk99 11-08-2016 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Defizo (Post 8904687)
Winding him up is exactly what they're doing by ignoring him though

Exactly. All he wants is a reaction so by giving him none, they gain the upper hand. I'm a bit surprised that they haven't done this sooner.

hijaxers 11-08-2016 03:49 PM

'Victimized' he needs vaporizing , pulverising at the very least ! I bloody detest him and his trollop.

Pete. 11-08-2016 03:53 PM

Bear has sensed that playing the victim card at this point could buy him a few more votes... Luckily most can see through him

Jan S 11-08-2016 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by -Sue- (Post 8904494)
there is NOTHING celebrity about Bear Chloe Lew or Marnie IMHO.. they are simply a bad sign of the times.. where it's considered popular to have as much sex as possible drink so much they vomit and shag as many things that have a pulse...

I would take goody goody downright down to earth humour over these vile human beings anyday...

Look at past BB members Brian Dowling a prime example of a superb wonderful outstanding HM did he have to resort to being an asshole or getting his end away in the toilet to win? no.. he did it by personality alone .. THAT is what a great HM is.. personality the ability to make others laugh without being a dickhead :)

:cheer2:

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Originally Posted by -Sue- (Post 8904519)
I have to be honest I loved James back in the day but he has deffo mellowed in his old age or he is keeping quiet for the sake he can't escape..if it all goes pete tong... (eg walk away)

I could not keep my cool with bear at all.. if i was in there.. I would had hid his cigs... poured eggs / milk anything yucky in anywhere that would piss him off ages ago... karma.. and revenge ;)

in a social group of any kind, if one member behaves so extremely as to affect all the others in a negative way, that person will become ostracised. they used to banish people, onceuponatime :D with bear, if he's ignored it's at his own demand and cuts off the oxygen his behaviour needs to be able to have the effect he desires it to have. since there are only a couple of weeks left, and he has his playmates, it doesn't constitute being victimised and he knows this as much as the next person.

i'd have gone and found his cigarettes and ''accidentally'' tripped up and dropped them into the pool. oops, silly me....

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Originally Posted by power2thepeople (Post 8904535)
Perfectly sums him up and how and why the others would not enable or overly react to his antics. It's what he needs to be of any real interest. Either an enabling crew or the knowledge he can cause reactions which show others in a negative light. Showing no reaction to his infantile pranks changes everything eventually. The pranks in isolation with no reaction would become tumbleweed moments. I don't think the others will totally manage it and I doubt Renee will but without any reaction, he is a very tedious man child.

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Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 8904538)
But if it's something he asked for, how is it a wrong? And Bear is the biggest boring bastard in that house.

it isn't, he's just trying to milk it since they're cutting off the reactions he wants to play off to make it all about bear.

caprimint 11-08-2016 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete. (Post 8904913)
Bear has sensed that playing the victim card at this point could buy him a few more votes... Luckily most can see through him

Since he survived easily last week by just being himself, I honestly doubt this is his thought process.

Pete. 11-08-2016 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by caprimint (Post 8904942)
Since he survived easily last week by just being himself, I honestly doubt this is his thought process.

Bear is the most aware of the public & trying to be so extra to gain votes so I'm sure this is all being thought through :thumbs:

kirklancaster 11-08-2016 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by hijaxers (Post 8904902)
'Victimized' he needs vaporizing , pulverising at the very least ! I bloody detest him and his trollop.

:laugh:

kirklancaster 11-08-2016 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jan S (Post 8904917)
:cheer2:

in a social group of any kind, if one member behaves so extremely as to affect all the others in a negative way, that person will become ostracised. they used to banish people, onceuponatime :D with bear, if he's ignored it's at his own demand and cuts off the oxygen his behaviour needs to be able to have the effect he desires it to have. since there are only a couple of weeks left, and he has his playmates, it doesn't constitute being victimised and he knows this as much as the next person.

i'd have gone and found his cigarettes and ''accidentally'' tripped up and dropped them into the pool. oops, silly me....



it isn't, he's just trying to milk it since they're cutting off the reactions he wants to play off to make it all about bear.

Great comments Jan. :clap1::clap1::clap1:

Liam- 11-08-2016 04:16 PM

Well this has been his game plan since the start, make people miserable, continuously antagonise them and then when they bite, sit back and play poor victim, he's a scum bag.

Jake. 11-08-2016 04:17 PM

yeah this is literally Helen's story arc all over again and it's something I'm really not interested in

caprimint 11-08-2016 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete. (Post 8904949)
Bear is the most aware of the public & trying to be so extra to gain votes so I'm sure this is all being thought through :thumbs:

Debatable. I can imagine him being the life of the party in a big group situation because that's the kind of person I think he is. Of course he loves the attention and thinks he's pretty damn cool (I don't disagree), but I don't believe it's for votes. He hasn't changed since day 1.

kirklancaster 11-08-2016 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 8904961)
Well this has been his game plan since the start, make people miserable, continuously antagonise them and then when they bite, sit back and play poor victim, he's a scum bag.

He actually HAS been playing that game Liam, you are correct.

jennyjuniper 11-08-2016 04:33 PM

I've just been reading about psychopaths. Here are some of their characteristics.

Glibness and superficial charm
need for constant stimulation/prone to boredom
lack of any remorse or guilt
shallow emotional response
complete lack of empathy.

Sound familiar? Yes it's numpty bear to a T.

kirklancaster 11-08-2016 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jennyjuniper (Post 8905006)
I've just been reading about psychopaths. Here are some of their characteristics.

Glibness and superficial charm
need for constant stimulation/prone to boredom
lack of any remorse or guilt
shallow emotional response
complete lack of empathy.

Sound familiar? Yes it's numpty bear to a T.

:joker: GREAT sleuthing Jenny, and it is dickhead Bear to a T. :laugh:

Pete. 11-08-2016 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake. (Post 8904964)
yeah this is literally Helen's story arc all over again and it's something I'm really not interested in

Mte

Oaker 11-08-2016 04:42 PM

Helen didn't play the victim though

Jake. 11-08-2016 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Oaker (Post 8905021)
Helen didn't play the victim though

She did completely

LukeB 11-08-2016 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Oaker (Post 8905021)
Helen didn't play the victim though

Yes she did.

notime 11-08-2016 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MB. (Post 8904296)
Interesting approach from the man who told everyone who nominated him not to speak to him for the rest of the series

.

susie q 11-08-2016 05:55 PM

Its like they have adopted a form of 'passive resistence', which can be a very powerful form of resistance. Gandhi used it to great effect, during the move for independence for India. It confused the British government at the time. You can see that Bear has no idea how to handle it, his confusion is actually quite entertaining to watch, and its also the best way to handle a naughty manchild like him.

Yaki da 11-08-2016 06:12 PM

What did they do wrong? How is pushing over a few plants and throwing some chocolates at each other in the bedroom such a crime? They were just happy they all stayed.

jet 11-08-2016 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 8904961)
Well this has been his game plan since the start, make people miserable, continuously antagonise them and then when they bite, sit back and play poor victim, he's a scum bag.

Bear is such a weak character, playing the victim card after the way he treats people. He'd be a snivelling wreck if he had been treated like Heavy D has, yet Heavy has the strength not to complain about his victimisation.

ThriceShy 11-08-2016 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by susie q (Post 8905218)
Its like they have adopted a form of 'passive resistence', which can be a very powerful form of resistance. Gandhi used it to great effect, during the move for independence for India. It confused the British government at the time. You can see that Bear has no idea how to handle it, his confusion is actually quite entertaining to watch, and its also the best way to handle a naughty manchild like him.

Did Ghandi spit in people's food and drink? Was Aubrey passively resisting when she did that?

Denver 11-08-2016 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 8905069)
Yes she did.

Well trashhley did bully her

Cherie 11-08-2016 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8905274)
What did they do wrong? How is pushing over a few plants and throwing some chocolates at each other in the bedroom such a crime? They were just happy they all stayed.

It was cake, think of the crumbs

Cherie 11-08-2016 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8905592)
Did Ghandi spit in people's food and drink? Was Aubrey passively resisting when she did that?

:joker: sorry made me laugh I think we might be getting a little too invested when Ghandi is brought in to the mix :unsure:

ThriceShy 11-08-2016 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8905639)
:joker: sorry made me laugh I think we might be getting a little too invested when Ghandi is brought in to the mix :unsure:

I didn't mention Ghandi first. I was responding to a poster who seems to think that the bully gang of James, Aubrey etc are being like Ghandi.

Cherie 11-08-2016 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8905663)
I didn't mention Ghandi first. I was responding to a poster who seems to think that the bully gang of James, Aubrey etc are being like Ghandi.

No I know you didn't your post was just more amusing :hee:


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