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So a 94 yr old couple can adopt a child?

If they are capable then yes

If they are capable then yes

What does this have to do with gay couples?

Nothing...whatever made you think it had:shrug:

Possibly the fact it's in this topic?

You posted in a thread which is about comments relating to gay adoption :think:

He only wanted a reaction fro me

I quoted a post about everyone being treated the same no matter what sex age et etc..seemed clear enough to me.

Please..

I barely recognise the name.:nono:

His post wasn't about adoption, it was about being treated equally. Your reply made no sense.

Hia reply was about everyone being tteated equally in a thread predominantly about gay adoption..what does age have to do with that? Remembering that adam brought it up first.:joker:

Look back at the thread i didnt bring the age up

You mentioned age though..

Bloody hell everyone is so defencive these days..dont take things so personally adam.:joker:

She's just a ****ing cow, always has been and always will be.

I was defending equal rights, please dont come in here and attack me and making out your pals views are perfectly acceptable when they are not and i will not be spoken down to and have false accusations made about me for no reason what so ever

Maybe because Sam expected respect from Adam purely because he was 60 odd and Adam is younger?

This is old news surprised people are shocked by that, shes an idiot, thought that was common knowledge.

Not nice when the shoes on the other foot is it.

Strange how people mention tolerance but want to block anyone with a view opposite to their own. As much as I disagree with what Colleen said here I don't see why she isn't entitled to her views. Also she wasn't comparing homosexuality to ISIS, she was just saying if a privately owned business wants to turn away a customer due to feeling whatever they're being asked to do is against their beliefs then they should have that right. Like how a Caribbean music group turned down an event for Winston McKenzie due to disliking the rhetoric used by some UKIP members.

Granted a gay wedding cake is a symbol of love and politics generally isn't, but it's just the same principle of turning away business.

I suppose the problem with it is it isn't a fair comparison because ISIS are a terrorist organisation which is an illegal organisation

A fairer comparison would be if it's ok to say gay marriage is against my beliefs would it also be ok to turn away a cake for an interracial couples wedding because you don't agree with that?

Oh dear...

Though I am in two minds about the cake thing, I have to admit. On the one hand it seems ridiculous to refuse to bake a cake because you disagree with the message on it. On the other hand, is it really that different to churches being able to refuse to perform gay marriage ceremonies because of their personal beliefs? Not totally sure where I stand on it, though oddly enough I have strong feelings about the B&B that turned away gay couples. And a shop is not much different to a B&B :shrug:

The rest of her comments are disgusting though. I wonder if BB will throw her under the bus the way they did with that Winston guy...doubt it somehow.

I completely agree in that her comparison was pretty shoddy. Comparing disapproving of love to disapproving of terrorism is a stretch by any standards, but to me it's just that whole question of free speech. The interracial couple example would've been ideal, and although to me (someone who has had negative reception to being in an interracial relationship) it's an abhorrent view, Id just take my business elsewhere and accept their decision to lose money based on an irrational view. Hanging people out to dry for their views like they did with Winston just isn't the way forward to dealing with this, and it just feels like doing so will fuel even more hatred as it allows these individuals to play the victim. I mean I never thought id say it but I actually felt sorry for Winston by the end of it all, and it really shouldn't have been that way because he's an ass.

colleen made a snide homophobic comment about beds already on day one

HER opinion,and she's entitled to it

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I'm sorry to hear that :(

I see your points, it's a tough one really

And people are allowed to comment on it.

Saying 'it's her's/my/whomever's opinion is not some sort of magical shield to prevent an opinion from being discussed by others. Opinions work both ways.

It's a guarded way of agreeing with said opinion let's be honest :idc:

Didn't he leave her? Regardless jesy>nolans

I've never forgiven Coleen for her bizarre claim on Radio 2 that "all people who think the McCanns might be guilty are mentally ill."

She is one of those typical morons that have been given a bigger platform than she would ever deserve or merit. And she thinks her opinions are important. She is a complete dullard and atrocious singer, with a career that died 35 years ago.

I do agree with this, despite my previous post. And I actually do agree with her regarding the bakery thing.

Hmm. Never thought she was homophobic. Strange.

Was'nt gay marriage also illegal in Ireland at the time of the cake thing?

I was driving along in my car today and I remembered that post for some reason and I was thinking good job nobody clicked onto the fact that gay marriage is illegal in Northern Ireland (still is in fact) :fan: Damn you Northern Monkey :fist:

I still would consider it different in that, you can be arrested for supporting a terrorist organisation/trying to promote it where as being gay isn't illegal and supporting gay marriage is more of a civil rights matter

The B&B and the cake shop are businesses for profit. Businesses aren't allowed to discriminate. They would contravene equality legislation by doing so.

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I still think a custom art designer should be free to choose the designs they are willing to do.I know a tattoo shop that won't do any writing.
The cake shop owner didn't refuse to serve the couple because they were gay.Iirc i thought the gay couple had used the shop in the past.It was just the design that they could'nt do as it was against their religion.
I can't stand Coleen btw.I'm not defending her just her right hold her opinions.

I suppose it's a more grey area in NI atleast as it isn't legal but if it were here in the South and say a cake shop refused to do a wedding cake for a gay couple I definitely think that would be wrong, imo religious views shouldn't be allowed to discriminate against the laws of the land.

I'm in two minds over her comments. I've always felt the "gay couples shouldn't adopt" thing is sometimes more of a sexist view than a homophobic one (depending on why someone thinks it). My mum for example holds that view but she's not homophobic in the slightest (she's bisexual herself and has always been accepting/proud of me being gay), the reason she thinks like that though is because she has old fashioned views of male and female roles when it comes to raising children and she'd feel the same about the idea of my sister being a single parent and raising a child without a dad as she would about me and a partner raising a child without a mother, so sexuality isn't actually the factor in her holding that view... she's kind of sexist basically :laugh: but not homophobic. So it depends really why Coleen thinks like that, if it's because she doesn't like gay people and/or thinks that their sexuality would be a bad influence on children or they'd be bad parents 'because' of their sexuality then yeah she's homophobic, but I don't know how she meant it. And the ISIS cake thing just comes across as stupid more than anything else, if she thinks being gay is comparable/as bad as to belonging to a terrorist organisation then she's pretty homophobic, but it looks to me more like she just put her point across very badly.